The Warden
#51
Posté 12 mars 2011 - 03:10
I have my doubts that the Warden will be back. I think BioWare has Warden fatigue or something. It's very likely we will never see either the Warden or Hawke ever again. It will be a new protagonists in DA3, if there is a DA3.
#52
Posté 12 mars 2011 - 08:24
#53
Posté 13 mars 2011 - 04:22
I doubt it's a joke.JamieCOTC wrote...
This is a long shot, but it could be an in joke about the hero always disappearing at the end of the tale, a near gaming staple.
I have my doubts that the Warden will be back. I think BioWare has Warden fatigue or something. It's very likely we will never see either the Warden or Hawke ever again. It will be a new protagonists in DA3, if there is a DA3.
I mean it was placed at the end of the game in a serious spot and the bioware staff have kept saying that they always had a certain direction that they wanted the overall dragon age plot to head towards.
I just hope DA3 addresses those disappearences, I'd be kind of disappointed if they added another hero to the disappearing roster without further insight. Although I suppose the game could still be just as awesome regardless.
#54
Posté 13 mars 2011 - 06:00
Plus seeing Hawke and the Warden in the same game would be epic!
#55
Posté 13 mars 2011 - 04:15
also, in Awakenings didnt the dead Warden come back to life anyhow? like even if your Warden died you could still play them in Awakenings? i thought that was pretty stupid and defeated the purpose of the whole sacrifice but whatever.
#56
Posté 13 mars 2011 - 08:35
#57
Posté 13 mars 2011 - 08:41
#58
Posté 13 mars 2011 - 08:59
Namely, my Warden went through the Eluvian with Morrigan. That was probably one or 2 years after the Blight. So in Year 7, Alistair and Teagan mention the Hero of Ferelden returning to Denerim. So, did my Warden come back from Eluvian land? Or is that a buggy reference?
Cause unless the Warden went and disappeared again after Year 7, then that seemingly contradicts Cassandra and Leliana saying how Hawke had disappeared like the Warden.
So whats the deal- is my Warden still in Eluvian land with Morrigan and the OGB at the end of DA2 or did he come back for a bit or what?
Modifié par Brockololly, 13 mars 2011 - 08:59 .
#59
Posté 13 mars 2011 - 09:01
MasterSamson88 wrote...
I reallykind ofreally hope the Warden doesn't come back...
#60
Posté 14 mars 2011 - 02:52
Steel Hurtin wrote...
M8DMAN wrote...
Cassandra is looking for Hawke at the end of the game Cassandra says that hawke disappeared just like the Warden. So unless she's talking about the Wardens corpse disappearing this means that the warden is back from dead/portal and has gone missing.Dante Angelo wrote...
They're not bringing back the Warden and Flemeth was never really dead. She knew the warden was going to kill her( if you choose to) Remeber at the beginning when she tells Hawke she has an appointment. She's talking about her fight with the Warden. Flemeth is not what she appears to be always remember that. Also what makes you think Hawke and the Warden are coming back. We'll probably have a new main character in DA:III
I'm guessing she and the other templars are looking for the two most powerfull people in Thedas, meaning both Hawke and the Warden.
Dragon Age III: Rise Of The Body Snatchers.
in DA 2. your warden never stepped through a portal
It should be noted that the DLC packs "Return to Ostagar", "Darkspawn Chronicles", "Leliana's Song", "Golems of Amgaraak" and "Witch Hunt" have no plot flags that are checked inside of Dragon Age 2 right now.
http://social.biowar...69868/1#6481293
how i see this. So u defeited the blight ur dead or alive. lets jump to witch hunt. remeber how Morrigan says u refused her dark ritual. even tho u didnt? for those wo didnt.
bioware made it so that in witch hunt u did refuse her.
so in DA 2 it could be that u DID the ritual with morrigan and surived. Or simply loghan killed the blasted dragon and died.
either way.
something is up. remeber how ur warden impregnate Morrigan and she now posses his child. and in my ending sotry in DA 2 Isabella stayed with me and he said theres a new champion born r something like that presuming my champion has a child. so both my warden and champion got kids.
also to note: something big is bout to happen like some one posted bout comments bout wardens during the qun fight. Nathiele how, if played right ur sister/brother joined the wardens.
something else is being ploted. and Flemeth roll wasnt just to burn down the darkspawn.
but she has a bigger roll. Witch hunt. Morrigan said she needed to prepair for whats bout to happen in the free march. SO theres something going on in DA 3 or exspansions thats coming out.
flemths said ur champion will have a bigger roll then he could imagine.
now both have gone missing. Also i killed the Architech but Natheniel howe claimed otherwise. so not everything u did in ur dragon age origins played out as it wanted.. it may have been a bug. ill play it again with a save file from awakening instead of witch hunt since it doesnt effect da2. but if its still the same we see that bioware still write the story how they want it. so warden lives and now after the whole mage templer thing hes gone missing. architech lived nathenial how doing some secret work. he said questions will be answered later. that he promissed.
other wardens have importan bissinus else where. alstar note then orlesians thing aint going so well. now your champion gone missing.
something big is bout to happen and its war whether is blight or war between nations. ur warden and champion will have a role in it.
(sorry for typos)
Modifié par UNOSHI, 14 mars 2011 - 02:58 .
#61
Posté 14 mars 2011 - 03:08
Upsettingshorts wrote...
MasterSamson88 wrote...
I reallykind ofreally hope the Warden doesn't come back...
#62
Posté 14 mars 2011 - 03:28
#63
Posté 14 mars 2011 - 03:38
MandatoryDenial1 wrote...
I just wanted to add something to this thread that I thought was interesting. In KOTOR2 it was hinted at the end that both Revan and the outcast was going to be in it or playing major roles. The DA2 devs seem to have majorly hinted at this as well. My jaw hit the proverbial ground when the last scene played. I really hope that you can play both and that they have converging stories.
Oh, no its one big fake out, just like the KOTOR2 Revan/Exile ending- DA3 will be an MMO that takes place several hundred years after DA2:pinched:
#64
Posté 14 mars 2011 - 03:41
DoubleOhSolo wrote...
Upsettingshorts wrote...
MasterSamson88 wrote...
I reallykind ofreally hope the Warden doesn't come back...
I hope both characters are dead by the time DA3 starts TBH. Both characters served their purpose.
#65
Posté 15 mars 2011 - 06:44
Now will either (or both) of them be the main character(s) of the third game? Possible, I suppose, albeit expensive. Really expensive. Worth it though, considering how much customization we've put into our characters, and I love the idea of alternating/intertwining storylines, perhaps with a large DA II DLC to show the Warden's story during Hawke's rise to power. What's more likely though, in my opinion, is the use of the "God Baby" (Morrigan's kid) as the main character, with Hawke and the warden as either companions (hopefully) or major NPCs.
So how would Bioware account for all of the decisions we made in their earlier games? Well, if Hawke and the Warden become NPCs or companions then the solution is simple--just pick out all the major (and some of the lesser, if possible) decisions they made and assign them a personality based on that. If they become PCs, then do something similar with the dialogue wheel options. As for the voice and face, I agree with whoever it was that said just let us have another go at the character creator. That way we can choose to make our Warden nd our Hawke look the same as before or different. The other option is to take a leaf out of Mass Effect 2's book--wait, hear me out--and use their face import mechanic. See, no blasphemy. The voice would be tricky (for the Warden, not Hawke) and costly, but a standard male and female voice should be doable.
Like I said, this would all be very expensive, and obviously, there's more to it than this, but I would hope Bioware has at least tossed these ideas around, if they are indeed planning on bringing back Hawke, and perhaps more importantly, the Warden.
But, this is all unfortunately based on speculation and my personal hopes for the direction of the franchise. Sorry for the long post, I'm bored and waiting for Homefront to finish downloading. If you read this whole thing, I thank you for your time, good serah. *Bows* Here's hoping that Dragon Age II brings us some fantastic DLC in the nearish future, and that Bioware eventually answers all our questions!
#66
Posté 15 mars 2011 - 07:20
But i say leave the Warden alone, only character that would be easy to bring back is Hawke and thats because Hawke already has a voice. But a new Protagonist i think would be a bit better too, i sorta love the idea that DA3 we will be searching for Hawke and the Warden.
#67
Posté 15 mars 2011 - 07:48
#68
Posté 15 mars 2011 - 07:53
Morrigan not recognizing the dark ritual during Witch Hunt was a bug when importing a non-epilogue save. It was fixed. If you have the latest verion of Witch Hunt, Morrigan will recognize the ritual occured. She recognized the ritual was done when I went through Witch Hunt with my human mage.UNOSHI wrote...
how i see this. So u defeited the blight ur dead or alive. lets jump to witch hunt. remeber how Morrigan says u refused her dark ritual. even tho u didnt? for those wo didnt.
bioware made it so that in witch hunt u did refuse her.
Nidmaster, the problem with the warden appearing again is he wasn't voiced in dragon age origins and could be one of three races. Thats quite a few voice actors for one character. Secondly because he was a PC what kind of personality do you give him?
The most likely way the Warden would appear again is in the form of DLC, just as there was Leliana's song there could be a Dragon Age 2 DLC where you once again take up the mantle of the warden for a two to three hour adventure.
Aside from that it be limited to a silent appearance alongside some other DAO character who speaks for him.
Modifié par Vukodlak, 15 mars 2011 - 08:01 .
#69
Posté 15 mars 2011 - 08:18
Modifié par Deztyn, 15 mars 2011 - 08:19 .
#70
Posté 15 mars 2011 - 08:59
#71
Posté 15 mars 2011 - 09:07
Jaws_Victim wrote...
Something else to mull over: What if Varric lied about what he told Cassandra? What if events didn't happen the way he said? What if Anders was never really killed, or they found a way to do something else he didn't mention? We only played what Varric tried to tell--this is probably not what actually happened.
This.
After finishing the game (like 3 min ago) I half expected Hawke to appear by Varric's side after Cassandra left and have a exchange along the lines of:
Hawke: Did she buy it?
Varric: I think she bought.
#72
Posté 15 mars 2011 - 10:05
#73
Posté 15 mars 2011 - 10:38
#74
Posté 15 mars 2011 - 10:49
the orliasian warden-commander from awakening si their backup plan.
he always lives. he does crazy stuff of significance too. so they could very well be talking about the warden-commander instead of the hero of fereldan.
i can easily see hawke making a return, but the warden i dont care so much about, he's too "blank" slate of a personality, i felt no connection to the warden at all, it was just an empty vessel i piloted through the game, hawke is an actual character i grew to really like.
its just such a weird issue. to continue with anything deal with the warden theres so many variables to deal with, i hope they just flat out kill the warden (if he's alive) in the first 20 minutes of DA3 and you control hawke or something. like you can use a default warden or import yours, and they get flat out SHANKED in front of hawke after telling you something important. (yes, screw all the people who wanted "happy" endings for their wardens, you're a damn warden you dont get a happy ending)
#75
Posté 15 mars 2011 - 12:06
I think one way they could Implement the dialogue wheel with the warden is by using one default voice for both Male and Female Wardens regardless of race.Aliciatron wrote...
yeah i wasn't too thrilled with that ending, since my Warden is the Queen. i also dont think the Warden will be a PC because it might be too hard for them to implement the dialogue wheel. anything is possible though. i'm really curious to see what happens in dragon age 3, because i'm sure all of Ferelden will be in an uproar if their Queen goes missing
also, in Awakenings didnt the dead Warden come back to life anyhow? like even if your Warden died you could still play them in Awakenings? i thought that was pretty stupid and defeated the purpose of the whole sacrifice but whatever.
That way Bioware wouldn't have to record voices for each differentt player race.





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