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#76
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DA3: You're an Orlesian Seeker looking for those two crazy kids, the Warden and the Champion. You know it's true. Then at the end, the Seeker will be missing! D:

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UNOSHI wrote...

Steel Hurtin wrote...

M8DMAN wrote...

Dante Angelo wrote...

They're not bringing back the Warden and Flemeth was never really dead. She knew the warden was going to kill her( if you choose to) Remeber at the beginning when she tells Hawke she has an appointment. She's talking about her fight with the Warden. Flemeth is not what she appears to be always remember that. Also what makes you think Hawke and the Warden are coming back. We'll probably have a new main character in DA:III

Cassandra is looking for Hawke at the end of the game Cassandra says that hawke disappeared just like the Warden. So unless she's talking about the Wardens corpse disappearing this means that the warden is back  from dead/portal and has gone missing.


I'm guessing she and the other templars are looking for the two most powerfull people in Thedas, meaning both Hawke and the Warden.


Dragon Age III: Rise Of The Body Snatchers.


in DA 2. your warden never stepped through a portal

It should be noted that the DLC packs "Return to Ostagar", "Darkspawn Chronicles", "Leliana's Song", "Golems of Amgaraak" and "Witch Hunt" have no plot flags that are checked inside of Dragon Age 2 right now.

http://social.biowar...69868/1#6481293

how i see this. So u defeited the blight ur dead or alive.  lets jump to witch hunt. remeber how Morrigan says u refused her dark ritual. even tho u didnt? for those wo didnt.

bioware made it so that in witch hunt u did refuse her.

so in DA 2 it could be that u DID the ritual with morrigan and surived. Or simply loghan killed the blasted dragon and died.

either way.

something is up. remeber how ur warden impregnate Morrigan and she now posses his child. and in my ending sotry in DA 2 Isabella stayed with me and he said theres a new champion born r something like that presuming my champion has a child. so both my warden and champion got kids.

also to note: something big is bout to happen like some one posted bout  comments bout wardens during the qun fight. Nathiele how, if played right ur sister/brother joined the wardens.

something else is being ploted. and Flemeth roll wasnt just to burn down the darkspawn.

but she has a bigger roll. Witch hunt. Morrigan said she needed to prepair for whats bout to happen in the free march. SO theres something going on in DA 3 or exspansions thats coming out.

flemths said ur champion will have a bigger roll then he could imagine.

now both have gone missing. Also i killed the Architech but Natheniel howe claimed otherwise. so not everything u did in ur dragon age origins played out as it wanted.. it may have been a bug. ill play it again with a save file from awakening instead of witch hunt since it doesnt effect da2. but if its still the same we see that bioware still write the story how they want it. so warden lives and now after the whole mage templer thing hes gone missing. architech lived nathenial how doing some secret work. he said questions will be answered later. that he promissed.
other wardens have importan bissinus else where. alstar note then orlesians thing aint going so well. now your champion gone missing.



something big is bout to happen and its war whether is blight or war between nations. ur warden and champion will have a role in it.

(sorry for typos)

I wonder if bioware does bring the Warden back from the dead or back through the portal how will it be done?
 
My bet is it will ether be Flemeth or the Architech bringing the warden back.

I think it would be interesting to see how the Warden would deal with the Mage VS. Chantry war.

Modifié par M8DMAN, 15 mars 2011 - 12:24 .


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I would love for my Warden to return, he did the ritual with Morrigan and told Alistar he was going to travel, then he went through the mirror with Morrigan after I did Awakening, there's nothing standing in the way of my personal Warden comming back as well as Hawke. Would be an epic game if The Warden and Hawke saved the world together.

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Ifandbut01 wrote...

Jaws_Victim wrote...

Something else to mull over: What if Varric lied about what he told Cassandra? What if events didn't happen the way he said? What if Anders was never really killed, or they found a way to do something else he didn't mention? We only played what Varric tried to tell--this is probably not what actually happened.


This.
After finishing the game (like 3 min ago) I half expected Hawke to appear by Varric's side after Cassandra left and have a exchange along the lines of:
Hawke: Did she buy it?
Varric: I think she bought.


That would be like a "it was all a dream" ending (the worst and dumbest endings there is). The rage on these boards would be like no other.

Modifié par Danjaru, 15 mars 2011 - 12:32 .


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clearly flemith and zevran are invovled in this Kotor plot

flemith is flemith
and zevran was killed by my warden yet he's back............................................ maybe that was the keepers deal with flemith bring back her lover zev?

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While I don't think the Warden's story is done by any means (provided they lived of course), bringing them back would be a logistical nightmare as each race would need voices, Warden needs to look like they do in Origins, and they need to retain all their skills/spells/specialisation, which would mean BioWare would need to pretty much undo everything they did in DA2.

With this in mind, I don't expect to see my Warden in the flesh again, though I wouldn't mind being pleasantly surprised.

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Now here's a thought for bringing back the warden...the game seems to retain what your warden looked like (or so I've heard) so why not import that into this theoretical DA3, and have it as the preset in character creator, which the player can then adjust to their liking (I've seen a few people create better looking DA2 Alistairs, for example)?

As for all the skills and such, ehh...I'd be willing to sacrifice my warden's end-game skills just to start fresh on a new adventure with her :)

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That makes a lot of sense now. After I heard Teagan and Alistair saying that the Warden would be in Denerim even though he went through the Eluvian. Maybe the missing Warden is the Orlesian warden?
Anyway I did not play Awakenings so I cannot be sure. As for bringing the Warden back to join Hawke sounds very tough to do. He either went into the Eluvian, died, was the prince of Ferelden or just disappeared after not going with Morrigan.

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I'm hoping that we can have two characters that we control in DA3. Maybe it can start out with two different 'Origins' one where we see what happened to the Warden and how we escaped or showed back up. Then one with Hawke and what happened to him.

The like Origins the two stories would join in the middle and we could pick who will be the 'Main' character (The one we control) and which one will be seconday (The NPC). Then they can team up to save Thedas from the building civil war.... that would be amazing

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TBH, i would like to see my Hawke maintain as main character in the DA3. Bioware shouldn't change protagonist again. They need to stay focus on one guy and so it can be able to represent an good point of view.

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I think what would be sorta cool (though i doubt it would happen)
You do not make or get a new character in DA3, instead you get a party and in that party you have you warden and Hawke. AND what would be pretty cool is if you could have them talk to each other and decided what they would say to each other, you could have them be friends, enemies, or lovers

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I want charlie sheen to voice my warden......

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ISpeakTheTruth wrote...

I'm hoping that we can have two characters that we control in DA3. Maybe it can start out with two different 'Origins' one where we see what happened to the Warden and how we escaped or showed back up. Then one with Hawke and what happened to him.

The like Origins the two stories would join in the middle and we could pick who will be the 'Main' character (The one we control) and which one will be seconday (The NPC). Then they can team up to save Thedas from the building civil war.... that would be amazing

If for some reason Hawke and The Warden ever teamed up The Warden would have to be the main character. Because Hawke is a more defined character and would more easily transition to a NPC or companion. Where as The Warden has way too many variables to be able to interact with as a companion or even NPC. He/she doesn't have a voice, he/she could be any of 3 races of either gender, he/she does not have a defined personality like Hawke (diplomatic, sarcastic, aggressive, etc.). It would simply be too much to deal with The Warden would have to remain a silent protagonist and main character to manage it all. I'm hopeful that doesn't happen though as Hawke has spoiled me with his epic VA, I would be very sad to have to go back to a silent protagonist. It may be for the best if we just play as another character in DA3, possibly a Seeker like others have suggested.

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This is the thing, in some games even if they give you an option of diferent endings the central saga story will be one no matter what. For example, people are saying that their warden was dead or Zevran died, but what if the main story needs them to be alive? It happend in the game of Splinter Cell; Double Agent you had the choice of killing Lambert ( Main Character's Boss/Co-worker/ Best friend) or not. Even if you dont kill him, in Splinter Cell: Conviction ,the main character killed lambert and was branded a traitor.

I think this was intentional, if it is it kind of sucks because my first playthrough my warden died, my best, however, he lived.

Just to point out that the warden at the Qunari attack was the same guy who did the voice of Riordan, the Grey Warden that died trying to kill the Archdemon in Denerim. I think the overall plot of the DA: Saga is.. much bigger than that The Templar- Mage war. That warden said it himself at the Qunari attack...

If a 3rd comes out, that I know it will. I think choosing who to play with might be a good idea, the champion or the warden with a choice of costumization.

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Thaded wrote...

I want charlie sheen to voice my warden......

Tigerblood everyday!

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The Warden isn't dead. Every time they talk about a Warden PC, they're talking about the Warden-Commander from Awakening.

Your Hero of Ferelden is dead.

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Taleroth wrote...

The Warden isn't dead. Every time they talk about a Warden PC, they're talking about the Warden-Commander from Awakening.

Your Hero of Ferelden is dead.


Why would they care about the warden-commander?

Yeah, he was a powerful guy that saved a small city and a fort from darkspawn. But Hero of Fereldin saved the world, pretty much. And the Champion was the deciding factor into the mage rebellion. 

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reddragon567 wrote...

Taleroth wrote...

The Warden isn't dead. Every time they talk about a Warden PC, they're talking about the Warden-Commander from Awakening.

Your Hero of Ferelden is dead.


Why would they care about the warden-commander?

Yeah, he was a powerful guy that saved a small city and a fort from darkspawn. But Hero of Fereldin saved the world, pretty much. And the Champion was the deciding factor into the mage rebellion. 

A comparison to the Hero of Ferelden is irrelevant.  The Warden-Commander is either the Hero of Ferelden or the Hero of Ferelden is dead or retired.  It's hard to be concerned about the whereabouts of a dead guy.

And The Mother, who was defeated by The Warden-Commander, was as much a threat as the Archdemon.

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Just give me my Warden and Hawke adventure, please. How I'd love to see my awkward Hawke, who only laughs at his own jokes, team up with my stoic elf-mage and Morrigan. Who stare at Hawke with a mixture of apprehension and derision--and as Leliana and Merrill listen intently to his words, absorbing them, understanding every piece with perfect clarity--as he rambles listlessly about talking nugs, political conspiracies involving Qunari and their alien masters.... and fart jokes that always starts with two Dwarves and an Elf that go to a bar.

But alas.

:(

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I don't understand that whole Flemmeth is dead and brought back by the amulet at the beginning of DA2? If the Warden killed her, how was she alive in the 1st place to give the amulet to Hawke?

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Hawke and the Warden are the greates living heroes if anyone can rally an army or negotiate and end to the uprising or war with Orlais its them. Dragon Age 3: A new age.

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TOBY FLENDERSON wrote...

Hawke and the Warden are the greates living heroes if anyone can rally an army or negotiate and end to the uprising or war with Orlais its them. Dragon Age 3: A new age.

I agree.

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As much as I would love nothing more to see my Warden and Hawke team up (and I do think its possible), let me play devil's advocate for a second.

Maybe neither will come back in DA3. Maybe we'll find out in DA3, that Flemeth or someone is killing them off, because they are the big heroes who could save the world from all the crap that's going down. The fact that they're all disappearing is why we keep having to have a new hero in every game, and maybe someday one of our heroes will discover this.

That said, I would love it if the next game starred the Warden and Hawke. If they keep the time skip, it would totally be possible - they could import Hawke as is, since he/she's voiced and everything, and have you recreate your Warden at the beginning - the lapse in time, 10 years or so, is a legitimate enough excuse for me to have to recreate the character, similar to ME2. I even wouldn't mind if they gave my Warden a new voice - really, the Dalish elf origin is the only one who you could argue needs a separate voice from the others (since dalish now have accents), but since my Warden is Dalish, I can say I wouldn't mind her not having an accent. Maybe she lost it after 10 years of living with humans, haha.

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BubbleDncr wrote...

As much as I would love nothing more to see my Warden and Hawke team up (and I do think its possible), let me play devil's advocate for a second.

Maybe neither will come back in DA3. Maybe we'll find out in DA3, that Flemeth or someone is killing them off, because they are the big heroes who could save the world from all the crap that's going down. The fact that they're all disappearing is why we keep having to have a new hero in every game, and maybe someday one of our heroes will discover this.

That said, I would love it if the next game starred the Warden and Hawke. If they keep the time skip, it would totally be possible - they could import Hawke as is, since he/she's voiced and everything, and have you recreate your Warden at the beginning - the lapse in time, 10 years or so, is a legitimate enough excuse for me to have to recreate the character, similar to ME2. I even wouldn't mind if they gave my Warden a new voice - really, the Dalish elf origin is the only one who you could argue needs a separate voice from the others (since dalish now have accents), but since my Warden is Dalish, I can say I wouldn't mind her not having an accent. Maybe she lost it after 10 years of living with humans, haha.

I'm not so sure Flemeth is evil, She reminds me more of a Watcher type character. I belive her role is to keep destiny in check.

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My Hawke disappeared because she was a fugitive, ran away with Anders probably to Tevinter. My warden married Alistair so I don't know why she would disappear, not likely, since she gave up the wardens and didn't even want to be in Amaranthine and told Alistair that.