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Isabela's story doesn't make sense


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She wants this relic for Castion. A human. And yet, Hawke single handedly ****s on high dragons and pride demons. And she is worried about some scumbag slaver? Does he have some kind of magical powers or something that makes him a threat? Or is he just a regular not-a-dragon human being. Becuase I'm pretty sure Isabela has no right being afraid of a human after we slay numerous dragons and demons.

Sorry, how is anyone supposed to take this seriously?  How is this remotely cohesive to the context of the story? It feels like a very transparent and shallow vehicle to forcibly advance the narrative.

This is one of the worst moments I had in game because it just broke the story in two like a twig. Sorry CHAMPION. despite your amazing and unprecedented efforts, some slaver who hasn't said one word in 5 years is now suddenly too big of a threat for Isabela to ignore.

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Modifié par scyphozoa, 11 mars 2011 - 08:27 .


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Isabela doesn't trust anyone and it doesn't seem like she wants to depend on anyone. She probably thinks that Hawke wouldn't protect her and she's on her own, so she's afraid of Castion and is depending on herself and only herself to stay alive.

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I would be more inclined to believe that if Isabela wasn't begging for my help with the mission. She asks for help repeatedly, first at the start of the game and then again, later in the game. I told Aveline I would work with the Arishok first and Isabela damn near started crying. Clearly she isn't depending on herself, she is depending on Hawke. And clearly she has seen Hawke slay dragon and demon, so she has no excuse to fear a mere human.

Maybe it is acceptable to you, but it is entirely belief-suspending to me.

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The game has several of these moments, but you're making the mistake of assuming that everyone should behave in a rational and logical manner. My wife has a fear of mice. If she saw a mouse she would run from the room and not return until I removed the mouse. That makes zero sense from a rational perspective. Humans are full of odd fears and anxieties.

Isabela is an emotional character and I find it believable that a figure from her past that was dangerous and powerful when she knew him could cause her to act in a non-rational manner. Isabela actually makes a few impulsive decisions that aren't well thought out. I think that's part of her charm.

The plot that bothers me the most involves the dwarf that wants to secretly get in on the deep roads expedition by being a hidden investor. Then years after collecting his payment thinks he can muscle you for more. I'm thinking the entire time that I made this money from killing hoards of dark spawn in the deep roads and he should remember this fact. Maybe he's thinks I've gone soft or would rather pay than deal with conflict. Doesn't matter because it all gets resolved quickly.

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Personally, I think that Isabella's actions make sense.  It's bound up in her character, though I suspect that you only see some aspects of it if you romance her.  She's a very self-confident individual, but it quickly becomes apparent that she only puts the most basic level of trust in the people around her.  Her interactions with The Champion are really the first time in a very long while that she's started to think she might actually be able to trust someone enough to become good friends with them (or more, depending on if you romance her or not).  Choosing Avelline over Isabella just before the climax of Act 2 pushes her away and suggests to her that she might not be able to trust you after all.

One of the best indicators of this, imo, is the change that you see in her in Act 3.  She's even on good terms with Avelline in that act, and there's a great scene during Avelline's companion quest in which you walk into Avelline's office and find the two women having a friendly conversation.  It doesn't cause Isabella to completely stop teasing Avelline, but it's clear that she's become much more open and friendlier than she was earlier on.

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I agree with the senitment but not your reasons why.
She's a pirate yeah, alright, but is firmly established a neutral chaotic at worst, seeking things that please her, but overal having morals, practicually when dealing with other lives, she cant stand slavery and is upset over the loss of her crew (although not much it seems).
And yet she has no problem inciting war with the Qunari against the Free Marches which has nothing to do with it, causing so many lives lost it could have been worse. And making a dormant war (or they idea they seem to give of it) flare up again with the Imperium, again thousands of lives lost because Qunari dont deferieciate, just judge guilty by association.
But of course a deathcount of thousand is so much better then a few slaves or the death of one (her or the thug).

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Ricvenart wrote...
And yet she has no problem inciting war with the Qunari against the Free Marches which has nothing to do with it, causing so many lives lost it could have been worse. And making a dormant war (or they idea they seem to give of it) flare up again with the Imperium, again thousands of lives lost because Qunari dont deferieciate, just judge guilty by association.
But of course a deathcount of thousand is so much better then a few slaves or the death of one (her or the thug).


And yet, if you become friends with her she tries to bring a stop to the war by coming back.