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Persephone wrote...

And my advice to those who did not like it and behave like crusaders: Move on to something you like.

Therein lies the problem. Besides a few tiny independent games, there aren't really any good RPG's any more. It was Bioware who used to fill this void, so don't expect people to not crusade now that they have sold out.

Modifié par fsfsfsfsfsfsf, 14 mars 2011 - 10:39 .

[Persona]

You can already buy it preowned at ebgames, that should tell you its not doing well. I will be waiting for witcher 2 and skyrim. This will be my 2nd and last Bioware/EA game ever.

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Persona wrote...

You can already buy it preowned at ebgames, that should tell you its not doing well. I will be waiting for witcher 2 and skyrim. This will be my 2nd and last Bioware/EA game ever.

It's a pity you didn't get to know them when they were young and cool and had a soul and cared about making good games.

Modifié par fsfsfsfsfsfsf, 14 mars 2011 - 10:50 .

[Persephone]

fsfsfsfsfsfsf wrote...

Persephone wrote...

And my advice to those who did not like it and behave like crusaders: Move on to something you like.

Therein lies the problem. Besides a few tiny independent games, there aren't really any good RPG's any more. It was Bioware who used to fill this void, so don't expect people to not crusade now that they have sold out.

How about The Witcher and its upcoming Sequel? Or play the BG series with Mods. (There are so MANY!) 

[Persephone]

Persona wrote...

You can already buy it preowned at ebgames, that should tell you its not doing well. I will be waiting for witcher 2 and skyrim. This will be my 2nd and last Bioware/EA game ever.

Witcher 2, HELL YEAH!

Skyrim? NO way. Not after the garbage fest called Oblivion.

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Persephone wrote...

fsfsfsfsfsfsf wrote...

Persephone wrote...

And my advice to those who did not like it and behave like crusaders: Move on to something you like.

Therein lies the problem. Besides a few tiny independent games, there aren't really any good RPG's any more. It was Bioware who used to fill this void, so don't expect people to not crusade now that they have sold out.

How about The Witcher and its upcoming Sequel? Or play the BG series with Mods. (There are so MANY!) 

The Witcher sucked. The sequel isn't out yet. And BG is 13 years old and I've played it 9 million times.

[BucharestBro]

Persephone wrote...

fsfsfsfsfsfsf wrote...

Persephone wrote...

And my advice to those who did not like it and behave like crusaders: Move on to something you like.

Therein lies the problem. Besides a few tiny independent games, there aren't really any good RPG's any more. It was Bioware who used to fill this void, so don't expect people to not crusade now that they have sold out.

How about The Witcher and its upcoming Sequel? Or play the BG series with Mods. (There are so MANY!) 

Your response to our favorite genre being destroyed in favor of button-mashers is to play a non-rpg or an extremely old rpg?

[DiggingistDog]

It should make decent sales because it is a decent game. Not great but not terrible.

[Persephone]

BucharestBro wrote...

Persephone wrote...

fsfsfsfsfsfsf wrote...

Persephone wrote...

And my advice to those who did not like it and behave like crusaders: Move on to something you like.

Therein lies the problem. Besides a few tiny independent games, there aren't really any good RPG's any more. It was Bioware who used to fill this void, so don't expect people to not crusade now that they have sold out.

How about The Witcher and its upcoming Sequel? Or play the BG series with Mods. (There are so MANY!) 

Your response to our favorite genre being destroyed in favor of button-mashers is to play a non-rpg or an extremely old rpg?

It's the two RPG Games I happen to love best aside from the DA series. *Shrugs* If you don't like The Witcher, I wonder just what it takes to please people.

[Persephone]

fsfsfsfsfsfsf wrote...

Persephone wrote...

fsfsfsfsfsfsf wrote...

Persephone wrote...

And my advice to those who did not like it and behave like crusaders: Move on to something you like.

Therein lies the problem. Besides a few tiny independent games, there aren't really any good RPG's any more. It was Bioware who used to fill this void, so don't expect people to not crusade now that they have sold out.

How about The Witcher and its upcoming Sequel? Or play the BG series with Mods. (There are so MANY!) 

The Witcher sucked. The sequel isn't out yet. And BG is 13 years old and I've played it 9 million times.

Hmmmmmmmmmm. I LOVED "The Witcher". What RPGs DO you like, BG Series aside?

[Merced652]

Calls oblivion garabge yet tells others to mod their DA2 to make it less ****ty. Yikes.

[Travie]

MAD WHITE HAM wrote...

http://www.huliq.com...ceed-45-million

good thing u trolls don't matter much

HAHA

Article date: 3/07

HAHA!

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Persephone wrote...

fsfsfsfsfsfsf wrote...

Persephone wrote...

fsfsfsfsfsfsf wrote...

Persephone wrote...

And my advice to those who did not like it and behave like crusaders: Move on to something you like.

Therein lies the problem. Besides a few tiny independent games, there aren't really any good RPG's any more. It was Bioware who used to fill this void, so don't expect people to not crusade now that they have sold out.

How about The Witcher and its upcoming Sequel? Or play the BG series with Mods. (There are so MANY!) 

The Witcher sucked. The sequel isn't out yet. And BG is 13 years old and I've played it 9 million times.

Hmmmmmmmmmm. I LOVED "The Witcher". What RPGs DO you like, BG Series aside?

Icewind Dale games, Temple of Elemental Evil, Shadowcaster, Betrayal at Krondor, Ultima VIII, Summoner, Return to Krondor, The Might & Magic games, The Wizardry games, Planescape: Torment, The System Shock games, Vampire: The Masquerade, Lands of Lore, Nehrim, SSI Gold Box series, Arx Fatalis, Spellcraft, Darksun, certain MMORPG's like Everquest etc.

And then there are the smaller independent RPG's. Speaking of which, you all should check out "Eschalon: Book II" if you want a game that people seem to like as much as BG.

Modifié par fsfsfsfsfsfsf, 14 mars 2011 - 11:09 .

[cockmaster 500]

Most people will give this a try so sales will be decent I imagine.

Its DA3 which will be hit. And then EA can say "hey look PC Gaming is dying, we are right to concentrate on consoles..."

[Persephone]

Merced652 wrote...

Calls oblivion garabge yet tells others to mod their DA2 to make it less ****ty. Yikes.

That's what adults call a difference of opinion. IMO Oblivion cannot touch Morrowind. It's shiny and pretty and many like it, I just do not. So what? Mods aren't necessary in general (Though I use them in DAO, Morrowind, BG Series etc.) but they sure as hell fix/add a lot. And don't put words in my mouth, dearie.

[Persephone]

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Persephone wrote...

fsfsfsfsfsfsf wrote...

Persephone wrote...

fsfsfsfsfsfsf wrote...

Persephone wrote...

And my advice to those who did not like it and behave like crusaders: Move on to something you like.

Therein lies the problem. Besides a few tiny independent games, there aren't really any good RPG's any more. It was Bioware who used to fill this void, so don't expect people to not crusade now that they have sold out.

How about The Witcher and its upcoming Sequel? Or play the BG series with Mods. (There are so MANY!) 

The Witcher sucked. The sequel isn't out yet. And BG is 13 years old and I've played it 9 million times.

Hmmmmmmmmmm. I LOVED "The Witcher". What RPGs DO you like, BG Series aside?

Icewind Dale games, Temple of Elemental Evil, Shadowcaster, Betrayal at Krondor, Ultima VIII, Summoner, Return to Krondor, The Might & Magic games, The Wizardry games, Planescape: Torment, The System Shock games, Vampire: The Masquerade, Lands of Lore, Nehrim, SSI Gold Box series, Arx Fatalis, Spellcraft, Darksun, certain MMORPG's like Everquest etc.

And then there are the smaller independent RPG's. Speaking of which, you all should check out "Eschalon: Book II" if you want a game that people seem to like as much as BG.

Thanks for those titles. I like the Icewind Dales games, I ADORE M&M ( up to 7, the rest....let's not talk about them!), Planescape Torment is BRILLIANT. Vampire The Masquerade is a bugfest and an insult to the Masquerade rulebook. (P&P player here) I'll try out Eschalon, definitely, thanks for the recommendation!

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You're welcome. You won't be disappointed I bet. I downloaded the demo yesterday and plan on buying it in a while.

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Modifié par fsfsfsfsfsfsf, 14 mars 2011 - 11:31 .

[Helli0n]

MAD WHITE HAM wrote...

http://www.huliq.com...ceed-45-million

good thing u trolls don't matter much

HAHA

Yeah really   who do you believe hehe

[majnuker]

First off, Dragon Age 2 has more base content than Origins, a fully voiced campaign, wonderful writing for said dialogue, and a story that while featuring major plot points like the critically acclaimed and absolutely wonderful Mass Effect games still allows for change.

You are all fanboys, looking for more of the same. Wanna know something? Your opinion only matters if the game doesn't sell. Preorders alone will prove you do not matter.

Black Ops, a game that i thought was just...meh, has been revealed to be the best selling game of all time.

Complaining about a game because it makes it easier for the general public to play well, arguing points that are just plain wrong (tactics are more flushed out, feature more options, and are better than the original Dragon Age; idiots) doesn't help your case.

After we get past the FACTS where you are INCORRECT, we can argue on preference. Art style, sure, Origins was nice. Dragon Age 2 features more detail, better environments, and more variation.

Gameplay wise, yes, it is annoying using teh same locales, and yes, it feels action-esque. But if you watch the game being played in slow motion, it looks exactly like Dragon Age. You are complaining because it moves faster, which is silly, because we are in the age of modernization and speed. Instant gratification.

Most of the arguments you make are based on the hatred of streamlined gameplay or speed. It isn't that the game has been turned into an action game, it's that popular games in general have moved faster and faster. Furthermore Dragon Age 2 features more customization, a better party approval system, and more choice within it's story than most games today.

I mean, even Origins had a basic storyline you HAD to follow. Look at the save game file loads; there were major plot points with only 2 choices throughout Origins. DA2 at least offers 3 in most cases, and springs things on you that force you to make a choice for the purpose of easier game design. I mean, do you really expect them to have the budget to voice and create ALL of the extra stuff you want?

You are all just...illogical. It saddens me to know that the gaming public at large, and even YOU, the elite rpg crowd, are unable to see any of the points i've made. You're blinded by your own opinions!

I'm inclined to think everyone is a troll.

[Grakz]

Metroidbum wrote...

Night Prowler76 wrote...

Im sorry, but whomever is running Bioware is a complete moron, you try to make an RPG to get the COD crowd, even tho the COD for the most part doesnt give a crap about RPG's, a game that came out in November "cod black ops" outsold DA this month!!!

I think Mikey Laidlaw and crew are delsusional at best, honestly DA2 doesnt deserve to break the top 5 on any platform and it probably wont.

Hopefully they fire Mike and try to get Brent back to do the game some justice.

1. COD is a good, albiet different game. You demonstrate your ignorance when you try to bash it.

It was good 10 years ago but they keep putting out the same game over and over.......

[Cody211282]

majnuker wrote...

First off, Dragon Age 2 has more base content than Origins, a fully voiced campaign, wonderful writing for said dialogue, and a story that while featuring major plot points like the critically acclaimed and absolutely wonderful Mass Effect games still allows for change.

You are all fanboys, looking for more of the same. Wanna know something? Your opinion only matters if the game doesn't sell. Preorders alone will prove you do not matter.

Black Ops, a game that i thought was just...meh, has been revealed to be the best selling game of all time.

Complaining about a game because it makes it easier for the general public to play well, arguing points that are just plain wrong (tactics are more flushed out, feature more options, and are better than the original Dragon Age; idiots) doesn't help your case.

After we get past the FACTS where you are INCORRECT, we can argue on preference. Art style, sure, Origins was nice. Dragon Age 2 features more detail, better environments, and more variation.

Gameplay wise, yes, it is annoying using teh same locales, and yes, it feels action-esque. But if you watch the game being played in slow motion, it looks exactly like Dragon Age. You are complaining because it moves faster, which is silly, because we are in the age of modernization and speed. Instant gratification.

Most of the arguments you make are based on the hatred of streamlined gameplay or speed. It isn't that the game has been turned into an action game, it's that popular games in general have moved faster and faster. Furthermore Dragon Age 2 features more customization, a better party approval system, and more choice within it's story than most games today.

I mean, even Origins had a basic storyline you HAD to follow. Look at the save game file loads; there were major plot points with only 2 choices throughout Origins. DA2 at least offers 3 in most cases, and springs things on you that force you to make a choice for the purpose of easier game design. I mean, do you really expect them to have the budget to voice and create ALL of the extra stuff you want?

You are all just...illogical. It saddens me to know that the gaming public at large, and even YOU, the elite rpg crowd, are unable to see any of the points i've made. You're blinded by your own opinions!

I'm inclined to think everyone is a troll.

Did you even play the first game? Now I like DA2 but the things you are pointing out border on blind fanboyisum to plain out wrong. And our opinions do matter, we are paying customers, we are what supported this company before EA did, WE ARE THE DAMN BOTTOM LINE!

[cljqnsnyc]

I'm all for different opinions but in the case of Oblivion, it's a great game IMO and the mods are out of this world! Transforms the game in ways you can't imagine! I started off playing Kotor, Oblivion, and others on consoles but when I started building my own pcs, I had no idea what I was missing as far as mods were concerned. DA2 would greatly benefit from mods. That would help the sales, at least for pc players. I don't think console players are even buying into this game either.....not according to Amazon.

How could they have expected us to buy this game while completely changing almost everything that established the franchise? A highly risky move! It's really a shame that we have to play through levels of the very same map over and over again. There's almost no customization or exploration. The story also falls short of anything Bioware has ever done before. The characters don't feel connected to me. You run into people you know and have histroy with but you have actually never met them before. It all occured offscreen. Hawke feels more like an npc you get to control, as though he were on loan from Bioware, not a character I get to create or live through. Isn't that what role playing is all about? I don't know if it's the framed narrative but you've taken too much of "me" out of the equation and that kills immersion into the story. Even Shepard felt much more "mine" than Hawke does. No attention to detail in setting, story, or characters, the hallmarks of a Bioware game. Creating a game of this nature, announcing that your target audience are non rpg fans, calling the game DA2 when it really isn't a sequel, attempting to sell it first to your fanbase while at the same time alienating them? None of this adds up or makes any sense to me.

If this game fails to sell, there isn't anyone to blame other then the creative team who figured they could pull one over on us. I honestly hope it all works out in the end. It shouldn't have had to come to this but the only way they can fill in the blanks is with QUALITY dlc...which may have been the plan all along. A toolset would be nice as well, although through sheer ingenuity, the files that have been locked away from modders are being cracked on a daily basis. Something to look forward to at least. Hey Bioware, if you want our support, why not support us? Target the fans that made you and find more creative ways to bring others onboard.

Modifié par cljqnsnyc, 15 mars 2011 - 12:23 .

[Romantiq]

To be honest I hope it sells well because I want to see continuation of series. But I also really want them to listen to feedback and not repeat the same mistake of being in same city for 95% of the game.

[Helli0n]

I sure hope they contineue the series also. liked origins alot and I am really liking DA2 so yes to continue the series!