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[AFCommando]

i wouldn't give it more then a 7 alot less freedom in this game then past bioware games among other obvious problems.

[LaughingDragon]

cosgamer wrote...

3 is justified, maybe too generous.

The game is broken and doesn't even work. I have a state-of-the-art gaming PC rig and if you turn the game to "very high detail" it won't work at all, it slows down to 10 FPS and the terrain all turns black. It's full of bugs/broken. 

But not to get off-topic, this thread is about the overwhelming negative user review feedback.

Modifié par LaughingDragon, 12 mars 2011 - 12:07 .

[kjdhgfiliuhwe]

Hey, I really enjoyed DA 2's story, which is the primary reason I play RPGs.

That said, I think even Bioware knows they rushed the game out and simplified things. I especially love the Talkative Man in the Hanging Man tavern. He has several fourth wall breaking lines concerning the game, but I especially love this one:

[Opalidor]

Teh Chozen Wun wrote...

The fact that there are already user reviews up shortly after the game has been released means that... THEY'RE NOT LEGITMATE.

Well maybe if this abomination was longer than 14 hours of play you were right..

it is short, it is an adventure game AND should have been for consols only...

+ it should never have been called a sequal, it should have been a standalone console version to make fast buck on streamlined players in order to fund the real sequal.

[skylr616]

kjdhgfiliuhwe wrote...

Hey, I really enjoyed DA 2's story, which is the primary reason I play RPGs.

That said, I think even Bioware knows they rushed the game out and simplified things. I especially love the Talkative Man in the Hanging Man tavern. He has several fourth wall breaking lines concerning the game, but I especially love this one:

omg, that is epic... ROFL

touché

Maybe it was something slipped in by that guy that posted on these forums and claimed to be fired from Bioware for voicing his dislike for the games direction (as if persisting in argument with your bosses would have any other result, rofl)... *ponder*

Modifié par skylr616, 12 mars 2011 - 12:30 .

[Sinvx]

Looking further at the reviews, it's simply people putting it at a really low score because of a few features taken out of the game, that they liked. So these reviews aren't much to go off of. More or so angry fans lashing out.

[LyonVanguard]

The_mango55 wrote...

Sabiancym wrote...

The_mango55 wrote...

User scores are worthless.

So the user score of 8.3 for origins is worthless?  No...the user scores usually average out very well.  

You people are just upset that the game isn't being praised by everyone.  Why you are upset by that I don't know, but it seems like there are a lot of you who feel the need to live and die with how this game is perceived.

Yes, the user score of 8.3 for origins is also worthless.

All user scores are worthless.

Your life is worthless. 
Cheers mate. 

[LyonVanguard]

LaughingDragon wrote...

cosgamer wrote...

3 is justified, maybe too generous.

The game is broken and doesn't even work. I have a state-of-the-art gaming PC rig and if you turn the game to "very high detail" it won't work at all, it slows down to 10 FPS and the terrain all turns black. It's full of bugs/broken. 

But not to get off-topic, this thread is about the overwhelming negative user review feedback.

You need the high quality texture pack fella. 

[skylr616]

Sinvx wrote...

Looking further at the reviews, it's simply people putting it at a really low score because of a few features taken out of the game, that they liked. So these reviews aren't much to go off of. More or so angry fans lashing out.

That is a big part of it, but Bioware did make some pretty big mistakes that are hard to argue with... I am pretty desensitized to re-used content in games but it is a little over-the-top in DA2. I also find as I move along through the plot that the side-quests (although thankfully less boring than in DAO) are still very disconnected from the primary storyline.... distractingly so.

They improved in a lot of other areas though...

Modifié par skylr616, 12 mars 2011 - 12:44 .

[Korusus]

Sinvx wrote...

More or so angry fans lashing out.

And yet developers continually do things like this willfully knowing they're alienating core fanbases.  And it always, always, always comes back to bite them in the rear.

I personally do not dislike DA:2, but I can tell you one thing:  I don't think it will win a single important award this year.  And when's the last time that happened in BioWare's history?  How about never in the entire time they've been developing RPGs?  Certainly not since I've been a fan of theirs.  And before this I didn't think they could develop a game that wasn't immediately a AAA title.  Even Jade Empire was outstanding even if it didn't sell as well.

Modifié par Korusus, 12 mars 2011 - 12:49 .

[andy180084]

user scores are far more important than the bought-out critic score that EA pays websites to post. A game that scores in the low 8's for a critic score is actually not good too..... go any lower and your in the mediocre field with games like the force unleashed. Bioware releases epic games, not this, not to mention I haven't seen one website where the user score makes its to the 8 range on pc. gamerankings.com rates its average user/critic score from every known website at a 7.4, which is really bad, like turok or force unleashed bad. You broke my heart bioware!!

[Mashiki]

Sinvx wrote...

Looking further at the reviews, it's simply people putting it at a really low score because of a few features taken out of the game, that they liked. So these reviews aren't much to go off of. More or so angry fans lashing out.

Definatly removing a few features, which included a good plot, which has direction, and draws you in. Along with non-recycled area design is a feature(instead of a base design idea).

Korusus wrote...


I personally do not dislike DA:2, but
I can tell you one thing:  I don't think it will win a single important
award this year.  And when's the last time that happened in BioWare's
history? 

Hmm their very first game I think?  Which would have been shattered steel.  I really liked that game though.

Modifié par Mashiki, 12 mars 2011 - 12:54 .

[andy180084]

Opalidor wrote...

Teh Chozen Wun wrote...

The fact that there are already user reviews up shortly after the game has been released means that... THEY'RE NOT LEGITMATE.

Well maybe if this abomination was longer than 14 hours of play you were right..

it is short, it is an adventure game AND should have been for consols only...

+ it should never have been called a sequal, it should have been a standalone console version to make fast buck on streamlined players in order to fund the real sequal.

well i finished DA:O in 15 hours on nm, but then again i blast through videogames.

[Jaron Oberyn]

Please do realize that user scores do come from actual people who actually play the game. Rather than some video game reviewer from a media company offering their thoughts on the game, it's ordinary people. I fail to see the problem. Just because it's getting a bad range of user reviews automatically means that they've never played the game, or they're over exaggerating? Some of you guys are ridiculous. If you honestly believe that Bioware is flawless, then that's pretty sad. You need to open your eyes and stop dwelling on the past. Bioware's not the same Bioware they used to be when they made great titles. There's been a significant decline in quality ever since ME2 and now DA2. And it all coincided with the acquisition from EA. People need to voice their opinions about it, and apparently they are. It's not to rise up against the company, but rather to help improve it and bring it back to the standards they used to hold. So stop dismissing these reviews as irrelevant because they are. You can tell yourself they're not, but the majority of the people who've bought DA2 have had enough of the mediocrity in Bioware's latest titles.

-Polite

Modifié par PoliteAssasin, 12 mars 2011 - 01:02 .

[Vena_86]

3 is most likely lower than the game deserves and is the result of some raging fans that only know scores of 0 and 10 (nothing inbetween).
However, it is still a strong indication of popularity and how BioWare have failed with this game. EA says "bend over!", and so it happens.
Over time the average will balance out to a more realistic score, but even than I predict it will be below BioWares standard.

[Heather Cline]

I don't really care about user reviews. I make up my own mind about video games when I play them. I like DA2. Can there be things improved? Yes. Could they have kept somethings in the game? Yes. Could they have done more with the levels instead of re-using them? Yes.

However, I still like the game. If someone gave the game a 3.9 out of 10 then that is their opinion.

I personally give this game a 8 out of 10. Not perfect, but pretty good.

[Innoe]

This game and ME2 has had another impact on me. I was all set to buy their upcoming Star Wars MMO. After playing ME2 and now this, I think I will hold off there for a bit. The direction me2 and da2 went has me shaking my head.

[Sharuko]

First I hated a lot about how BioWare handled this game. Did not like the fact Steam users didn't get the Collector's Edition and all their preorder games.

But I do think the 3 out of 10 is based on peoples anger at the direction BioWare is taking, it is not about change. ME2 was different than ME1 but people still liked it and gave it a good score. DA2 on the other hand is not in the same league as DA:O.

User reviews matter, especially to the casual consumer who will never browse the forums. For products I am not familiar with I look at user reviews.

I do think GameSpot's review (8.0) and user review (7.0) is fair:

http://www.gamespot....alclk;gamespace

The same guy reviewed DA:O and gave it a 9.5 and I generally love his reviews and he seems like a BioWare fanboy. So a 8 is disappointing.

DA2 is the first BioWare game I haven't bought. Because after playing the demo and the fact they didn't put the SE edition on Steam I was not impressed and I don't think it is worth the 59 dollars.

ME1 to ME2 worked.  DA:O to DA2 didn't.

But when it is on sale I will buy it and then give my review.

Modifié par Sharuko, 12 mars 2011 - 01:20 .

[Gatt9]

Sinvx wrote...

Looking further at the reviews, it's simply people putting it at a really low score because of a few features taken out of the game, that they liked. So these reviews aren't much to go off of. More or so angry fans lashing out.

Actually those are very important.  It's a very clear message to Bioware that these features are critical to some number of players,  and should they wish to continue to receive those player's money,  they may wish to reconsider their "New direction".

It also told me,  as a fan of those features,  that I shouldn't give Bioware my $60.  Which I didn't do.  So in short,  all of those people helped me to save $60 during a time when money is tight.

[Sinvx]

Sharuko wrote...

First I hated a lot about how BioWare handled this game. Did not like the fact Steam users didn't get the Collector's Edition and all their preorder games.

But I do think the 3 out of 10 is based on peoples anger at the direction BioWare is taking, it is not about change. ME2 was different than ME1 but people still liked it and gave it a good score. DA2 on the other hand is not in the same league as DA:O.

User reviews matter, especially to the casual consumer who will never browse the forums. For products I am not familiar with I look at user reviews.

I do think GameSpot's review (8.0) and user review (7.0) is fair:

http://www.gamespot....alclk;gamespace

The same guy reviewed DA:O and gave it a 9.5 and I generally love his reviews and he seems like a BioWare fanboy. So a 8 is disappointing.

DA2 is the first BioWare game I haven't bought. Because after playing the demo and the fact they didn't put the SE edition on Steam I was not impressed and I don't think it is worth the 59 dollars.

ME1 to ME2 worked.  DA:O to DA2 didn't.

But when it is on sale I will buy it and then give my review.

You can't compare ME1 and ME2, because they're a continuation of each other. DA:O and DA2 are not. It's been said by the devs, that Dragon Age focuses on the world of Thedas. Ferelden was some backwaters part of Thedas that introduced us, now we move on to a more city/urban feel of Kirkwall in the Free Marches. We get a glimpse at Qunari culture, and learn how their society works. We get more involved in the story of the Chantry, Circle of Magi, and the Templars.

I personally like this direction. It's better then beating a second blight, or fighting more darkspawn. It's new and interesting, Dragon Age 3, or whatever DLC/Expansion probably won't be narrative since the seeker was done with Varric at the end, cause lets face it, at the intro we already knew the ending was decided, and no matter what we did we got 1 ending. Now the narriatives are done, we'll probably see the series improve on this, with more dialogue and choices with impact.

[Melness]

I believe those reviews should be taken with a grain of sault, considering both that many were recently registered accounts and several can be made by a single person/code and that they are obviously under much opinion myopia due to their favorite parts of the game being taken out in the sequel. As if DA:O was about inventory management.

[Sinvx]

Gatt9 wrote...

Sinvx wrote...

Looking further at the reviews, it's simply people putting it at a really low score because of a few features taken out of the game, that they liked. So these reviews aren't much to go off of. More or so angry fans lashing out.

Actually those are very important.  It's a very clear message to Bioware that these features are critical to some number of players,  and should they wish to continue to receive those player's money,  they may wish to reconsider their "New direction".

It also told me,  as a fan of those features,  that I shouldn't give Bioware my $60.  Which I didn't do.  So in short,  all of those people helped me to save $60 during a time when money is tight.

Those features aren't critical to gameplay or story. It's more about them taking away something these people like to tinker with. Instead they gave us unique characters with distictive unique looks. Since people can personalize them, they get upset.

Its simple, they're angry fans over a few things that have no impact on the game what so ever. Combat functions the same, but it's flashier, so they complain it's hack n slash, and rate the game 0. Tactical zoom is gone, so they complain, and rate the game 0. The ability to not equip your Companions with the same generic armor pieces, they complain and rate the game 0. Game isn't as challenging because attack speed is faster, so they rate the game 0.

Combat is the same but flashier...

I never used tactical zoom, since I liked to see the detail as my companions and character fight, as to little ants running on my screen.

The variety of equipment was low in DA:O, and all your characters had a bland and boring look.

I found the game to be quite challenging and found myself pausing more so then I did in DA:O to issue my commands.

Face it, these "reviews" are but rants from angry fans, trying to lash out at Bioware. They clearly never played the full game, otherwise they would be singing a different tune. Sorry but I cannot take angry biased reviews seriously. When they start making constructive reviews I will take it seriously, negative or not.