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Which is better: Dragon Age: Origins or Dragon Age 2?


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Alex Kershaw wrote...

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Lmao - is this a serious question? Really? How can anybody who has actually played both games and liked one of them strong enough to visit these forums honestly think that Dragon Age 2 was even close to Origins? There isn't a single location in Dragon Age 2 that isn't used for more than one purpose, you don't ever see a new location once you've hit the Deep Roads at the end of act ONE, talking to companions was dumbed down, the inventory was dumbed down, combat was incredibly boring with enemies just appearing out of nowhere continuously... Err, never mind


Origins was set across an entire country. DA2 was about a single city. The fact that there aren't as many new areas to visit shouldn't come as that much of a surprise. It was a different perspective, looking at the individual in a more personal way rather than a more epic, earth shattering viewpoint ala Origins.

This was made clear before the game was released and I for one appreciated it for what it is. Do I have a favourite??? No, both have their merits and their faults. Both have areas that require improvement.

I'm a bit tired of the view that Origins was this flawless masterpiece. It was an amazing game, but it had faults just like DA2 and any other game.


How does stating that it's about a single city make it a good thing? I have played the game - I KNOW it's in a single city. You could make the game in a single house - would that be an excuse for having 2 characters and 1 location? No - being in one city is not an excuse. It's a fault. And Origins got 91 on Metacritic with DA2 getting 82 on Metacritic, so it isn't just a few people making this up - it's the average score of 100 critics...


Did I say a single city made it a good thing. I was stating that to show how the scale of the two games was different. Scale doesnt automatically make a game better or grander. Simply different.

The fact is it was a different type of story. It was about the evolution of the character that was Hawke, whereas Origins was about saving a nation. The scope of the story is specific so there was less avenue to creating other areas to visit. It was also told over a llonger time frame which meant that the areas were reused for different purposes, as they would be. (A raider's cave becomes a Tal Vashoth cave, rather than having a brand new cave).

Edit: What is more believable, visiting a tavern once and never setting foot in it again or reusing said tavern in several mission?

If they had taken Origins, slapped the same old story onto another nation and character, that would have added nothing to th Dragon Age Universe. It would have been considered a better sequel by many I'm sure but for me, I loved the intimate setting of the second game.

As for ratings, so long as it doesnt affect the future of the series, I couldn't give a damn what they think.

Modifié par Altered Idol, 21 mars 2011 - 01:17 .


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Altered Idol wrote...

Alex Kershaw wrote...

Altered Idol wrote...

Alex Kershaw wrote...

Lmao - is this a serious question? Really? How can anybody who has actually played both games and liked one of them strong enough to visit these forums honestly think that Dragon Age 2 was even close to Origins? There isn't a single location in Dragon Age 2 that isn't used for more than one purpose, you don't ever see a new location once you've hit the Deep Roads at the end of act ONE, talking to companions was dumbed down, the inventory was dumbed down, combat was incredibly boring with enemies just appearing out of nowhere continuously... Err, never mind


Origins was set across an entire country. DA2 was about a single city. The fact that there aren't as many new areas to visit shouldn't come as that much of a surprise. It was a different perspective, looking at the individual in a more personal way rather than a more epic, earth shattering viewpoint ala Origins.

This was made clear before the game was released and I for one appreciated it for what it is. Do I have a favourite??? No, both have their merits and their faults. Both have areas that require improvement.

I'm a bit tired of the view that Origins was this flawless masterpiece. It was an amazing game, but it had faults just like DA2 and any other game.


How does stating that it's about a single city make it a good thing? I have played the game - I KNOW it's in a single city. You could make the game in a single house - would that be an excuse for having 2 characters and 1 location? No - being in one city is not an excuse. It's a fault. And Origins got 91 on Metacritic with DA2 getting 82 on Metacritic, so it isn't just a few people making this up - it's the average score of 100 critics...


Did I say a single city made it a good thing. I was stating that to show how the scale of the two games was different. Scale doesnt automatically make a game better or grander. Simply different.

The fact is it was a different type of story. It was about the evolution of the character that was Hawke, whereas Origins was about saving a nation. The scope of the story is specific so there was less avenue to creating other areas to visit. It was also told over a llonger time frame which meant that the areas were reused for different purposes, as they would be. (A raider's cave becomes a Tal Vashoth cave, rather than having a brand new cave).

Edit: What is more believable, visiting a tavern once and never setting foot in it again or reusing said tavern in several mission?

If they had taken Origins, slapped the same old story onto another nation and character, that would have added nothing to th Dragon Age Universe. It would have been considered a better sequel by many I'm sure but for me, I loved the intimate setting of the second game.

As for ratings, so long as it doesnt affect the future of the series, I couldn't give a damn what they think.


Visiting a tavern once is far more believable than visiting it several times, so I don't know why you used that point... You honestly didn't find it slightly cooincidental that every single problem that you ever had to solve (and the entire game is essentially solving random problems since there is no real plot) happened in the exact same locations? Every time a pub was mentioned in the entire city state, it was the Hanged Man. Whenever someone was kidnapped, it was the Wounded Coast. Whenever you had to meet someone 'in Dark Town', they didn't even bother to tell you where as if they know you live in a game universe where the map size means you can find anyone.

And of course, that isn't even mentioning the fact that the same mines/caves/warehouses etc are used 10+ times each.

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Origins

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I love Dragon Age 2.

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I have replayed Origins 5 times. I can't replay DA2, there is no point.

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Don't hate the game, hate the playa! LOL

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I don't really know if either is my favorite. I love them both, but DA:O is better with some parts, like the longer story. DA2 has a quicker pace to it (well it seems that way to me) DA:O I can't stand to playthrough all the main plot quests like "Broken Circle" "Paragon of Her Kind" "Urn of Sacred Ashes "Nature of the Beast" they are too long and tedious. DA2 is more unique and has stepped outside the normal thinking of an RPG like DA:O was. So, let's say a tie.

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ad1dash0lm3s wrote...

I don't really know if either is my favorite. I love them both, but DA:O is better with some parts, like the longer story. DA2 has a quicker pace to it (well it seems that way to me) DA:O I can't stand to playthrough all the main plot quests like "Broken Circle" "Paragon of Her Kind" "Urn of Sacred Ashes "Nature of the Beast" they are too long and tedious. DA2 is more unique and has stepped outside the normal thinking of an RPG like DA:O was. So, let's say a tie.


Can't argue with that.

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Dragon age origins

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origins by far

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They're both great games though, LOL

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simfamSP wrote...

Well, if you like an 'epic' plot go for Origins
If you like a more personal story go for DA2

Bioware is all about the story, nothing else matters.


Apparently.

EDIT: Just about the only thing imo thats actually good in DA2 is the lore. Grats to the writers and all but my god what have you done everyone else.

Modifié par Sandmanifest, 25 mars 2011 - 05:17 .


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Sandmanifest wrote...

simfamSP wrote...

Well, if you like an 'epic' plot go for Origins
If you like a more personal story go for DA2

Bioware is all about the story, nothing else matters.


Apparently.

EDIT: Just about the only thing imo thats actually good in DA2 is the lore. Grats to the writers and all but my god what have you done everyone else.


LOL

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I like them both, but I was fully immersed in Dragon Age II and that's what matters to me. That said, I'm resuming Dragon Age: Origins and it's still about as fun. Having restarted, some things are too different, in a bad way, for me anyway, while others feel mostly the same. There's good and bad in both games, to be honest. Dragon Age II is one of my favorite games this generation though.

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I don't hate the sequel, but it pales in comparison to Origins in almost every way.

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is this supposed to be a trap question?

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DarthBakura wrote...

I like them both, but I was fully immersed in Dragon Age II and that's what matters to me. That said, I'm resuming Dragon Age: Origins and it's still about as fun. Having restarted, some things are too different, in a bad way, for me anyway, while others feel mostly the same. There's good and bad in both games, to be honest. Dragon Age II is one of my favorite games this generation though.


Can't argue with that?

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Lol. Metacritic tells the story, but pretty much anybody who has played both games gas to go with Origins

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I've played both games and I'm going with DA2. I'm currently playing through DAO, my 1st edition PS3 crashed finally :(. Anyways I find myself bored with DAO. I just am playing through it so that in DA2, my choices will carry over. DA2 is the superior of the two. The fighting in DAO has me almost in tears cuz its so slow and limited. Can't stand not being able to to hit more than one person with my giant sword. I also hate how i start an attack and the enemy runs away, so now i'm just swinging at air and it's still hitting him. DAO story was good, but it's too tedious. Its pretty much the same idea 4 or five times before you reach the final boss. DA2, had different chapters, each different, but all leading up to an epic ending...and an epic beginning. DA2 by far.

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I like Origins more, the variables at the end really do it for me.

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Donkeycow wrote...

Drogo45 wrote...

There is no doubt about it - DA2 is an evolutionary step forward from DA. DA2 is better.


How does it feel to be a sheep?


Don't sheep "go with the herd" - which in this case would be the CRITICS of Da 2?

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dirftglass wrote...

Donkeycow wrote...

Drogo45 wrote...

There is no doubt about it - DA2 is an evolutionary step forward from DA. DA2 is better.


How does it feel to be a sheep?


Don't sheep "go with the herd" - which in this case would be the CRITICS of Da 2?


But Sheeps also says "Määähhh" and eat what they get without questioning... so i think he is right :)

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There's a lot of things I thought DA2 did a lot better than origins

but I think Origins is overall better than DA2 mainly because of the story and characters. But I could replay DA2 more than Origins.

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The reason why the predecessor is better in my eyes is (in general, without getting into specifics); while playing DA2, some times I kept thinking "If this was implemented in DA:O, it would have been great." instead of "It's absolutely better this way."

The sequel adressed some of my complaints in the first game but in my opinion, the game wasted an opportunity to deliver an overall better experience. The few positive changes are overlooked easily for this reason.

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origins
obviously