For story I'd pick DA2 over DA:O, however the reusage of areas in DA2 is really bothersome so in that department I'd pick DA:O over DA2. When it comes to combat I've got mixed feelings really. Both combat systems work for me even though they're miles apart, but I don't think I'd want to play Origins with a DA2 combat system and vice versa. I liked the fact that DA2 mostly plays out in Kirkwall, for me - the entire story could have been in Kirkwall. Reminds me about some old fantasy short stories I used to read when I was younger (Thieves' World I believe it was called), where the stories all took place in a town.
To summarize, I can't really decide which one is better. DA:O has some things I like better while DA2 has things I enjoyed far more than I did in DA:O. So yeah, it's an even tie I believe.
Which is better: Dragon Age: Origins or Dragon Age 2?
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#52
Posté 12 mars 2011 - 11:56
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Pandaman102 wrote...
I don't think we should be comparing the games given how different they are. It would be akin to comparing BG2 to Diablo 2 - different genres, different strengths, different weaknesses.
Agreed. They should have just called it something else. You can feel a sort of bleed-through of some of Mass Effects features in DA2...not just the Dialog Wheel, but the side quests, the reused um...everything...
Not saying it's terrible or anything (love ME and all things Shepard...buying a sheep soon) but just not worthy of the precedence set forward by DA:O.
Laidlaw said that DA2 is being hated-on because everyone is comparing it to DAO and that it shouldn't be. If it shouldn't be compared to the first of the series, then it shouldn't be a part of said series....
Ugh...I'm ranting..
#53
Posté 12 mars 2011 - 11:57
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DA:O without a doubt.
The graphics were better in Origins.
The Darkspawn look terrible now.
The graphics were better in Origins.
The Darkspawn look terrible now.
#54
Posté 13 mars 2011 - 12:01
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difficult to say. da2 does come ahead in some area's and is slightly weaker in other area's. the most annoying thing is indeed the recycled areas but if they make some good quality dlc like lotsb then i will say that DA2 will become a better game.
#55
Posté 13 mars 2011 - 12:23
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DA:O in just about every possible way. The only thing I will say I kind of liked in DA II was the faster combat(slightly too fast, needs to go back some) and that elves don't look like humans with pointy ears any more.
#56
Posté 13 mars 2011 - 12:28
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DA2 tried something different with the story -- from a non-linear standpoint. I give them props for that, instead of the same old, tired from a-to-b-to-c linear storytelling.
This is very much like Verbal Kint in The Usual Suspects, recounting the events that lead up to the moment of his questioning.
It worked for me. That lack of RPG elements are sorely missed, however. As is the depth of the environments and the feeling one is actually on some sort of journey. I don't feel like I'm progressing, because we're not cutting back to Varric enough to make it significant. You have to play some sort of the story in the present to go along with the story in the past.
Had Bioware cut back and forth between Varric's plight (not just canned questioning) and Hawke -- I think it would've worked better.
This is very much like Verbal Kint in The Usual Suspects, recounting the events that lead up to the moment of his questioning.
It worked for me. That lack of RPG elements are sorely missed, however. As is the depth of the environments and the feeling one is actually on some sort of journey. I don't feel like I'm progressing, because we're not cutting back to Varric enough to make it significant. You have to play some sort of the story in the present to go along with the story in the past.
Had Bioware cut back and forth between Varric's plight (not just canned questioning) and Hawke -- I think it would've worked better.
#57
Posté 13 mars 2011 - 12:30
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In combat and climax (and how the events lead to that point) Dragon Age 2 is better, but in the other things, Origins was equal or better than Dragon Age 2
#58
Posté 13 mars 2011 - 01:45
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Tarwater03 wrote...
This is very much like Verbal Kint in The Usual Suspects, recounting the events that lead up to the moment of his questioning.
man that was a great movie! One of my favorite!
#59
Posté 13 mars 2011 - 03:02
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In my humble opinion, DA:O wins hands down!
DA2 is just too.....frantic.
I like the combat animations though.
DA2 is just too.....frantic.
I like the combat animations though.
#60
Posté 13 mars 2011 - 03:05
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I don't know. I think probably Dragon Age 2, but at the same time, the atmosphere of Origins is what characterises the series for me.
#62
Posté 13 mars 2011 - 03:11
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I love them both very much. But to be completely honest:
Story: DA2 wins. The gripping drama, the consequences and decisions... WOW!
Companions: DA2 wins again. No "Ten dialogue options done and then it's over" companions (Unless they are Morri or Alistair) . They all have a spread out story and MUCH to say and they truly REACT to Hawke's responses, decisions. Romance comes across as much more natural (No more "Oh, you gave me wine and another gift, now I think you're cute!" effects) They all have deep stories, harrowing decision points....
Design: DA2 has beautiful graphics. But the re-used areas make it lose to DAO. Both suck in that regard, The Witcher owns that. XD
Talents, Skills, Etc: Like them both equally
RPG Elements: Only thing DA2 lacked was outfitting companions IMO. And the Modders are already at work on that, or so I hear. But the shaping of personality (Influencing even dialogue you cannot choose such as greetings etc.) is mesmerizing. So DA2 wins again in my eyes.
I LOVE both games. Wouldn't want to be without either of them.
Story: DA2 wins. The gripping drama, the consequences and decisions... WOW!
Companions: DA2 wins again. No "Ten dialogue options done and then it's over" companions (Unless they are Morri or Alistair) . They all have a spread out story and MUCH to say and they truly REACT to Hawke's responses, decisions. Romance comes across as much more natural (No more "Oh, you gave me wine and another gift, now I think you're cute!" effects) They all have deep stories, harrowing decision points....
Design: DA2 has beautiful graphics. But the re-used areas make it lose to DAO. Both suck in that regard, The Witcher owns that. XD
Talents, Skills, Etc: Like them both equally
RPG Elements: Only thing DA2 lacked was outfitting companions IMO. And the Modders are already at work on that, or so I hear. But the shaping of personality (Influencing even dialogue you cannot choose such as greetings etc.) is mesmerizing. So DA2 wins again in my eyes.
I LOVE both games. Wouldn't want to be without either of them.
#64
Posté 13 mars 2011 - 03:12
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Completely agree with you,da2 has no story no ambition as dao had.They could have done da2 for consoles freaks only,brainless hack n slash manga looking crap.
cosgamer wrote...
DA:O, no comparison. DA 2 is a sad joke.
#65
Posté 13 mars 2011 - 03:14
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I'm a RTS gamer, I enjoy face-paced real time combat in tactical gameplay, however in the end I'd rather have the mind-stimulating tactical combat over just plain fast-paced mediocre combat (I say mediocre because imo Diablo 2 has a better combat system than DA2)
So Origins for me, not to mention I prefer the old art style, the old roleplay system, the mute character, etc.
So Origins for me, not to mention I prefer the old art style, the old roleplay system, the mute character, etc.
#66
Posté 13 mars 2011 - 03:15
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Love fool wrote...
Completely agree with you,da2 has no story no ambition as dao had.They could have done da2 for consoles freaks only,brainless hack n slash manga looking crap.cosgamer wrote...
DA:O, no comparison. DA 2 is a sad joke.
Did we play the same game, I wonder? NO story? Seriously? Manga?
#68
Posté 13 mars 2011 - 03:19
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Love fool wrote...
Completely agree with you,da2 has no story no ambition as dao had.
Does this sound familiar?
Someone joins a mysterious order. Exceptionally skilled, they lead a ragtag band of friends to victory against the forces of darkness.
Yep, it's practically every fantasy ever written. DA:O had no story ambition.
#69
Posté 13 mars 2011 - 03:20
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da2 just stops when the stuff actualy starts to happen ( i HATE open endings)
#70
Posté 13 mars 2011 - 03:21
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I like DA 2.
The physical force in combat is welcome, and the lightning with good animations is cool.
More action and less talk, a little like mass effect 2.
If you go for a more detailed RPG, you should stick with DA:O.
But i think that DA2 is a very good and entertaining game.
Oh, and the sound is PERFECT.
The physical force in combat is welcome, and the lightning with good animations is cool.
More action and less talk, a little like mass effect 2.
If you go for a more detailed RPG, you should stick with DA:O.
But i think that DA2 is a very good and entertaining game.
Oh, and the sound is PERFECT.
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Posté 13 mars 2011 - 03:23
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DA:O by far.. whats up with the story in DA2? Its so linear.. whatever your choice,
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i doont see why many praise DA2 in this aspect..
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i doont see why many praise DA2 in this aspect..
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#72
Posté 13 mars 2011 - 03:26
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DeepRazor wrote...
DA:O by far.. whats up with the story in DA2? Its so linear.. whatever your choice,
"Spoilers"
This is a non spoiler forum. Please don't post spoilers marked or not, and regardless, that tag was nearly useless, as I saw the spoilers anyway.
#73
Posté 13 mars 2011 - 03:32
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naloj wrote...
da2 just stops when the stuff actualy starts to happen ( i HATE open endings)
See, I love them. It gives the opportunity for expansions, DLCs...it keeps the franchise alive. Seeing everything resolved would have led to a "Ok, done now, movin' on." sentiment.
#74
Posté 13 mars 2011 - 03:37
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Persephone wrote...
naloj wrote...
da2 just stops when the stuff actualy starts to happen ( i HATE open endings)
See, I love them. It gives the opportunity for expansions, DLCs...it keeps the franchise alive. Seeing everything resolved would have led to a "Ok, done now, movin' on." sentiment.
Yeah, as long as they follow up on them, I'm happy. Cliffhangers are the best. If they are just left hanging, then I hate them.
#75
Posté 13 mars 2011 - 03:37
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I prefer DA:O for the well-rounded package (immersion, graphics, party management, etc.). However, I do enjoy DA2 when it comes to certain boss battles. While battles are hardly realistic, some of them can be pretty epic. My last one involved me having to keep my companions behind cover just to keep them alive with only one health potion remaining, and the battle lasted pretty long too. I haven't had such a fulfilled feeling since Baldur's Gate 2, which is awesome.
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