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Autoclave

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Drogo45 wrote...

Most do not agree. Most see that DA2 is better and more advanced than DA. You are in the minority by a long shot.


You are either on EA's payroll, or you are Hammer Legion Member. :o

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I do feel that this game was rushed a lil but the story drove me to spend over 20+ hours playing it do I think its better than DA:O console yes PC no DA:O was better on PC for the Mods!

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That guy is clearly trolling, stop feeding him.

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From a console gamer's perspective this game was a major improvement in most areas over DA:O, better graphics, gameplay, and more fun. The only truly infuriating areas were the weak narrative, lackluster ending, and, of course, the reused areas. I also miss the KotOR and DAO dialogue system where you can speak to your companions whenever you like

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Autoclave wrote...

You are either on EA's payroll, or you are Hammer Legion Member. :o


What if you're on CD Projekt's payroll? :blink:

Modifié par uberdowzen, 12 mars 2011 - 08:01 .


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I'm a console gamer and personally I think DA:O beat DA:2 tenfold. I mean sure the game had smoother combat, but besides that everything else wasn't too hot. Am I the only one who was annoyed by the fact the side quests at the beginning of the game were basically main quest since you were forced to do them to achieve a main quest. So for the next DA, don't make side quest forced in order to get an extra 5+hours of forced gameplay....

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This is the end of all things that the Mayans foretold !!!! We are all going to die !!!!! Oh wait that's next year :P

Sorry OP but I don't thik we all agree that this is a Charlie Foxtrot. I'd say it's pretty evenly split between fanbois, haters and people who are trying to express rational opinions.

There are things I don't like about it (I want my isometric camera and my toolset back). I liked DA:O more once I had modded it heavily, but less in it's vanilla form. If we don't get to mod DA2 I will continue to like DA:O better.

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slokiller2003 wrote...
Plus I severly dislike being lead by the hand through every side quest. If i find a random object that starts a quest, give me a hint as to who might want it and a general location and let me look for them. Don't put a giant arrow over a randomly generated character and in the map and say hey stupid go here.


I, on the other hand, prefer it this way, and I even ditched the quests that didn't have the map markers (the forbidden knowledge, for example).
I've had enough of "search everything by yourself" with Divinity 2, and I don't want to see that in any other game.

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ObjectivelySubjective wrote...

...that DA2 was a rushed disaster, lets get on talking about DA3.

What do you guys expect? I, for one, am quite gald that this DA2 fiasco happened. If nothing else it will teach EA (and Bioware) that we're not just consumer drones that will eat up any trash they throw at us. What does this mean? Well, I assume that they will go back to the drawing boards for DA3.

So hopefully we'll get a lot more areas (as oppose to ****ty attempts at making day/night act as a different location trigger). Personally, the main thing I want see back is the old 'scroll' type menu screen and the ability to change the clothing of companions.


I dont agree at all with Rushed Disater. i enjoy the game alot...

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I don't think it was a DISASTER (what's happening in Japan is a disaster...), but I think that it could use a lot of work with traditional (for lack of a better word) RPG game systems as the game tries very hard to cater to too many different player groups. If Bioware wanted to make an action game, make an action game, if they want to create a "pure" RPG, then do that. I don't think they work as well together as many people think.

I like the witcher, but it never struck me as that much of an RPG as DA:O did, maybe I'm just crazy ;)

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Just wanted to add that, if yall bought the game already, the money's already in their pocket and you're not teaching anyone any lesson.

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DA:O was better, but that doesn't stop DA2 from being a bad game......

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Melee Mage specialization that isn't a tank or OP'd

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Xebioz

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SuperD-710 wrote...

Just wanted to add that, if yall bought the game already, the money's already in their pocket and you're not teaching anyone any lesson.


In my opinion it is better to give constructive feedback after actually playing the whole game, give this to those in doubt and let them decide if it's worth it or not. If enough negative feedback is offered they will lose consumers for their next product, which then does exactly the same purpose than not buying it. Basically you're just giving them time to change and if they don't well then you don't buy their product. If noone buys the game and rates it, just doomsay from what has been offered in small samples (like a demo), things like story and features not in the demo will not be assessed. This is why it's important to give feedback related to concrete examples.

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Drogo45 wrote...

Most do not agree. Most see that DA2 is better and more advanced than DA. You are in the minority by a long shot.


Pretty much.

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I like 'em both. My only real problem is that the mages get the short end of the stick on appearances again (give us some uniques, damnit) and the heavy map recycling.

I don't even mind reusing the same tilesets when it makes sense, just take a month or two and give us some different maps, please? Revisiting the same cave twice in a row for a quest, or the exact same ruin location despite being halfway across the map is a little goofy.

Everything else, though? We're good, Bioware.

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Dirty **** wrote...

Drogo45 wrote...

Most do not agree. Most see that DA2 is better and more advanced than DA. You are in the minority by a long shot.

lol no, but I suppose trying to talk sense to a white knighting BioDrone is pointless.


Ooh!  Biodrones!    That's like, the creative,  non-cliche term for 'fanboi", right?

Yes.  I'm beginning to notice  something interesting (if not painfully obvious).  There seems to be a direct  correlation between the  maturity level of a  poster   and   the vocal level  of  "hate"  of DA2.   The lower the first one is, the higher the second one goes.

Modifié par Yrkoon, 12 mars 2011 - 07:15 .


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Xebioz

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Yrkoon wrote...

Dirty **** wrote...

Drogo45 wrote...

Most do not agree. Most see that DA2 is better and more advanced than DA. You are in the minority by a long shot.

lol no, but I suppose trying to talk sense to a white knighting BioDrone is pointless.


Ooh!  Biodrones!    That's like, the creative,  non-cliche term for 'fanboi", right?

Yes.  I'm beginning to notice  something interesting (if not painfully obvious).  There seems to be a direct  correlation between the  maturity level of a  poster   and   the vocal level  of  "hate"  of DA2.   The lower the first one is, the higher the second one goes.


If you ignore the "hate" and actaully just reply to what they say without spouting hate back it will go away by itself. I am clearly a really immature person if your predictions are correct as I had high hopes for this game, but found many of the things "promised" lacking from the game.

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I don't think most people agree, just because the people who hate/dislike the game are the most vocal doesn't mean the most do.

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I see that the denial still runs strong on the BioWare boards. The game was a flop. I think it's time we all realize that and look at what's actually worth salvaging. Dragon Age II did have some good parts to it.

Personally, I found the family dynamic to be excellently executed barring a certain subplot. I'd love to see these kind of bonds in Dragon Age III. I came to really care for Carver despite him being somewhat of a twerp. This surprised me as I rarely care about my companions. Kudos to the writers for that experience.

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I have to say the game is growing on me quickly. I'm still bothered by some of the main issues with this game but I am starting to just accept it and enjoy the experience. I dont think its fair to generalize the entire community when most people have not finished the game and many more do not own a copy yet.

Its definately a great game but has some serious flaws especially when stacked against DAO. Hopefully bioware has learned that when people buy an RPG they want to play an RPG and not some ungangly hybrid of an action game and an RPG. Seriously, I dont remember anyone complaining about inventory or any of the supposed problems that were "fixed" in DA2.

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I do think DA2 was rushed but wasn't a disaster! I liked the game and it got good reviews. The game could have been a lot bigger though.

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Marionetten wrote...

I see that the denial still runs strong on the BioWare boards. The game was a flop. I think it's time we all realize that and look at what's actually worth salvaging. Dragon Age II did have some good parts to it.

Personally, I found the family dynamic to be excellently executed barring a certain subplot. I'd love to see these kind of bonds in Dragon Age III. I came to really care for Carver despite him being somewhat of a twerp. This surprised me as I rarely care about my companions. Kudos to the writers for that experience.


What? Denial? From a guy who bought and probably finished the game while calling it trash and utterly bad? Oh the irony. BTW, if you forum trolls ( cause you cant be that serious) have such a sad life that you actually buy games and sit down for hours playing it even though you think it is "boring", "a disaster", "trash" and so on....I feel pity for you, seriously. No one is forcing anyone to play it. Last time I hated a game, I uninstalled. Im loving DA2 right now, alot more than DAO.

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VanDraegon wrote...

ObjectivelySubjective wrote...

...that DA2 was a rushed disaster, lets get on talking about DA3.



Do not presume to speak for the majority of DA2 players. There is a vocal contingent on the forums that dislikes the game. That in no way means, nor do you have any proof, that the majority of DA2 players think the game is a disaster. Even if you only count forum members.


This. Sure DA 2 does need some improvement in several areas, but I thought it was a good game (this is coming from a PC player perspective). Good enough to keep me playing for 40+ hours to finish it, I thought the story was great. Opinions of this game are going to vary widely among everyone.

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Drogo45 wrote...

Most do not agree. Most see that DA2 is better and more advanced than DA. You are in the minority by a long shot.


Everything is said : Loud minority. The majour reception is positive.