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[HailTheQueen]

I personally enjoyed it... just as much as I enjoyed Origins. They both have positive and negative things about them, so I'm having a hard time comparing them to figure out which I liked best. And I don't think that 'most of us agree DA2 was a fiasco'.
It's a good game.
IMO.

[Buffy-Summers]

Drogo45 wrote...

Most do not agree. Most see that DA2 is better and more advanced than DA. You are in the minority by a long shot.

Not according to the reviews by users OR by critics

The PC metacritic is 7 points lower on DA2

The consoles are 3 points lower each

Maybe not everyone agree that it was a rush mess but critics agree that it was WORSE then DAO

[Quole]

WalkenOwns wrote...

Rushed? Yes

Disaster? Maybe

fixed for you

Modifié par Quole, 12 mars 2011 - 02:13 .

[LadyVaJedi]

I would like to see the numbers on this. How many of the players that don't like DA2 are pc or console. I am a console player I also enjoy DA2 very much and I love DA1 as well.

[Huntress]

elevul wrote...

Donkeycow wrote...
Hopfully they will unlearn everything they learned from DA2 and pick up were Origins left off from a design perspective. Also hopefully we will be seeing an Origins 2 instead of a Dragon Age 3.

I hope they won't. While poorly executed, I really loved the fact that the story wasn't the same old "big enemy to defeat", but a collection of various stories that connected in the end to make us understand what's happening.
I hope they will keep developing it, because it has a lot to give.
Also, I really loved how they dwelt deeply in human psychology, to make characters more human.

Whats the purpuse of hawk?

Why or what is he championing for?

Am  not only asking to you but anyone who really believe that just going around like a zombies, without a big bad ugly monster to defit  is worth $60.

You know why so many players wants more of dragon age origen? because it had a purpuse, not just blowing up everything, they need it to get to X it was very important thing to do, did you feel that way with DA2?

[ragnaven]

I love how people keep saying we didn't pay attention to the story so we need to play it again to like it, I read every codex entry, note, and journal tab. Yes I knew what was going on at the end of the game, but by then I honestly didn't care. The weak ways the game was tied together upset me, end of story. You like it, that is good, because I like things you won't. You like things I don't, it is diversity and it makes the world stronger. This will be the downfall of the Qunari, their lack of that.

Just don't call me lazy or ignorent because you assume I didn't do my homework, that is all I am saying.

[cljqnsnyc]

I don't think the fanbase is split on this game. It seems there are far more negatives out there than positives. I've looked through the forums and read through reviews on other sites...and it's mostly bad. The professional reviewers seem to be playing another game entirely. The very fact I'm reading reviews instead of playing past the 25hrs or so is my point. I couldn't stop playing DAO. Went through it and all the DLC countless times. If you like the game, fine. If you don't you're called a troll or something else. Color it any way you like...something has gone wrong when there are pages and pages of negative reviews by fans who LOVE Bioware. Are we all trolls? Troll or not. The disappointment is REAL!

[Xebioz]

ragnaven wrote...

I love how people keep saying we didn't pay attention to the story so we need to play it again to like it, I read every codex entry, note, and journal tab. Yes I knew what was going on at the end of the game, but by then I honestly didn't care. The weak ways the game was tied together upset me, end of story. You like it, that is good, because I like things you won't. You like things I don't, it is diversity and it makes the world stronger. This will be the downfall of the Qunari, their lack of that.

Just don't call me lazy or ignorent because you assume I didn't do my homework, that is all I am saying.

I second this as someone has already stated this too many times...

[Anathemic]

tez19 wrote...

Anathemic wrote...

tez19 wrote...
I have much more important things in my life to worry about and stress over but if the people nerdraging do not then i feel sorry for them if DA2 is the major concern in their life.

tez, I told you to stop trolling. Keep it up and you'll spark another argument, with me. And I think we both know who will be the victor.

Away with you.

Still stuck with the same comebacks?

How about you try being productive and stop calling people lifeless. Or trying to ram down your 'self proclaimed ego of being a better human specimen' down people's throats.

[Legbiter]

Nice troll OP.

[Xebioz]

cljqnsnyc wrote...

I don't think the fanbase is split on this game. It seems there are far more negatives out there than positives. I've looked through the forums and read through reviews on other sites...and it's mostly bad. The professional reviewers seem to be playing another game entirely. The very fact I'm reading reviews instead of playing past the 25hrs or so is my point. I couldn't stop playing DAO. Went through it and all the DLC countless times. If you like the game, fine. If you don't you're called a troll or something else. Color it any way you like...something has gone wrong when there are pages and pages of negative reviews by fans who LOVE Bioware. Are we all trolls? Troll or not. The disappointment is REAL!

This can also have a lot to do with the fact that people post more in anger than when they're happy, which means that if they like something they usually don't care to post as much about it.

[shad0wph0x]

Dear Bioware;

I just finished the game, and I'm left with a bad taste in my mouth, much like when I paid for the Witch Hunt DLC.(What a waste of time, considering it had nothing to do with this game at ALL!!!) This game really had no plot, just a bunch of underlying sub-plots that barely keep it together. I kept thinking as i went along that it would get better. It didn't. Maybe if you hadn't poured all of your writing skills into Mass Effect 2, then it wouldn't feel as if this game was written by someone with a middle school education. The constant lagging is also a nuisance, like having to wait almost a minute for a cutscene because I killed a boss with an ability. A lot of games that were supposed to come out this month got pushed back so they could get polished up(Dungeon Seige 3, D & D Daggerdale, Fear 3 etc...), and this game could have used a few more weeks of debugging, not to mention a STORY!!! This is an RPG people come on!!! At the most Dragon Age 2 should have been DLC, not a stand alone game. You sucessfully fixed what was broken, then broke everything that wasn't. Bottom line, if you want to play this game, don't spend a hundred bucks. It's only worth 30. I swear it's DMC all over again. Great first outing and now the sophmore slump. Hope you guys get it together, or I'm going back to Bethesda.

[LaughingDragon]

DA:II is designed exclusively for console.

BioWare flat out said that the majority of DA:O sales came from consoles. Therefore, they made DA:II geared exclusively toward the console market - a plain and simple profit driven business decision.

On a console you sit back and push button A or B and move your thumb sticks around. You need a 1 button action focused game because you cant do anything else with a game controller.

PC gaming is a completely different experience, you have a huge keyboard and mouse that allows for a much richer and more detail oriented gameplay and you also have immensely superior hardware in most cases.

Anyway, BioWare should not have even released a PC version, period.

[Supreme-Jim]

Xebioz wrote...

ragnaven wrote...

I love how people keep saying we didn't pay attention to the story so we need to play it again to like it, I read every codex entry, note, and journal tab. Yes I knew what was going on at the end of the game, but by then I honestly didn't care. The weak ways the game was tied together upset me, end of story. You like it, that is good, because I like things you won't. You like things I don't, it is diversity and it makes the world stronger. This will be the downfall of the Qunari, their lack of that.

Just don't call me lazy or ignorent because you assume I didn't do my homework, that is all I am saying.

I second this as someone has already stated this too many times...

I third this.  I liked the game (aside from non-realistic crazy speed demon kung fu movie animations) but that doesn't mean I get all upset or confused when others don't agree with me.

[lx_theo]

The game does seem a bit rushed, but it still turned out great. As good as origins? Maybe. They story structure changes it too much to tell which is better. But it's definitely still a great game.

[lady_v23]

i don't know about you people but i dare to say i actually like the story of DA 2 much more than DA:O

Modifié par lady_v23, 12 mars 2011 - 02:30 .

[R-F]

I've played this game for 12 hours a day since Tuesday at 10 am and still am not bored. As far as I'm concerned that's a win for Bioware. It certainly beats the utter garbage that has come out in the last 6 months.

Literally the only thing that I don't like about this game is not being able to chat with companions when I want to. Other than that the game is fantastic in my books and to hell with the rantings and ravings of the internet.

[Lacan2]

I like the day/night thing.

But yeah, I agree that it needs more work on the cloned areas.

[Dorian the Monk of Sune]

Nightnight wrote...

DA2 will sell well because it rides on the success of DAO. The EA executobots will deem it as a success and receive a fat bonus this year.

Subsequent DLCs and DA3 on the other hand...

You never know. DA:O might have sold well riding on the back of Bioware's previous and maybe DA 2 will suffer for DA:O. Thats how it is with me. 

[cljqnsnyc]

[quote]Xebioz wrote...

[quote]cljqnsnyc wrote...

I don't think the fanbase is split on this game. It seems there are far more negatives out there than positives. I've looked through the forums and read through reviews on other sites...and it's mostly bad. The professional reviewers seem to be playing another game entirely. The very fact I'm reading reviews instead of playing past the 25hrs or so is my point. I couldn't stop playing DAO. Went through it and all the DLC countless times. If you like the game, fine. If you don't you're called a troll or something else. Color it any way you like...something has gone wrong when there are pages and pages of negative reviews by fans who LOVE Bioware. Are we all trolls? Troll or not. The disappointment is REAL![/quote]

[quote]Xebioz wrote.....
This can also have a lot to do with the fact that people post more in anger than when they're happy, which means that if they like something they usually don't care to post as much about it.


cljqnsnyc
Well there sure are a lot of angry people out there. What you say is true, sometimes. I for one never posted anywhere for any reason until after I played ME1 back in 2007...and that was because I LOVED THAT GAME! People do post in anger, but they also post when they are very satisfied as well. There wasn't any swell of anger against DAO, ME1, or ME2. Well there were plenty of disgruntled people on the ME1 to ME2 loss of rpg elements...but that game retained it's story and engaging characters so it didn't hurt as much. This time around, however is a different situtaion entirely.

Modifié par cljqnsnyc, 12 mars 2011 - 02:44 .

[Melduran]

HOW can people say that DA1 is equivillant to DA2?? HOW? What planet are we all on here? This idea that the two games are very similar is like someone reading me war and peace in chinese my jaw just drops leaving me with a crinched brow. Obviously everyone is different but its remarks like that, that are just put me in Awe. Its kind of like someone saying WWF has an original take on life and the acting is top notch, I dont know who these people are who like wrestling but I know we couldn't be any different in that view. Is it the fact that Dungeons and Dragons has now pretty much skiped the new generation and this group hasn't really experienced what its like to experience a great story and being part of it?

[Sacred_Fantasy]

ObjectivelySubjective wrote...

...that DA2 was a rushed disaster, lets get on talking about DA3.

What do you guys expect? I, for one, am quite gald that this DA2 fiasco happened. If nothing else it will teach EA (and Bioware) that we're not just consumer drones that will eat up any trash they throw at us. What does this mean? Well, I assume that they will go back to the drawing boards for DA3.

So hopefully we'll get a lot more areas (as oppose to ****ty attempts at making day/night act as a different location trigger). Personally, the main thing I want see back is the old 'scroll' type menu screen and the ability to change the clothing of companions.

I assume they will streamlined DA 3 much further. If Neverwinter Nights was a fully clothes fashion model. Neverwinter Nights 2 ( Obsidian )/Dragon Age Origins ( Bioware ) was a naked star. So DA 3 is going to be stripped further into a skeleton. More like arcade action adventure or something like Assassin Creed, Darksiders and Dynasty Warrior than anything else. But then, by this time, Dynasty Warrior and Final Fantasy series should have more advanced graphics than DA 3. Final Fantasy still employ on heavily cinematic gameplay while Dynasty Warrior become more flashier and faster than light combat pace. DA 3, on the hand, improvise the Qunari technology in gunpowder and began massing their northern armies with AK47, Flamethrower, Grenade Launcher, Sniper and Artillery Unit. We'll see more street fighting and the new hero with the help of "God Baby" now realize they have to revive Voltron to win the war. Thus introducing the first big giant Gundam mecha in Thedas and the first futuristic concept of Arcade Adventure Games.

Morrigan once said, "Change is coming to the world. Some fear change and will fight it with every fibre of their being. But sometimes, change is what they need most. Sometimes, change is what sets them free."

Modifié par Sacred_Fantasy, 12 mars 2011 - 02:50 .

[Ben_c1987]

Drogo45 wrote...

Most do not agree. Most see that DA2 is better and more advanced than DA. You are in the minority by a long shot.

Yeah and pigs fly

[Nyuneko]

They should ditch "Dragon Age 2", call it "Dragon Age: The Kirkwall stories", then for their next game (DA3), they should call it "Dragon Age: Origins 2".

What I am saying is that they should really just stick with the voiceless protagonist(if that saves money on VA and such), and expand on the unique origin storyline in DAO(yes, I know races ain't a new thing to RPG), they should try and make the origin storyline more dominant, so while we still follow the same story -Grey Warden or whatnot-, they should give our origin more credit than just an extra quest or 2 and being referred to by our race. I played through DAO 3 times, human once, elf twice, but I had no incentive to play dwarves since A) I am not a big fan of stubby characters and  There was little to no difference to the majority of the game, which is a waste considering that the unique selling point was origins(I did play through their origins, but never bothered to finish the game as them). So instead of having a voiced, customisable protagonist, per Mass Effect, they should have stuck to the USP of DAO: The Origins.

Gameplay-wise, I don't have much to say except: Don't do action game if you don't like it yourself... You are best to learn from Bayonetta and such Japanese games for less button-mashing action, but then few outside Japan managed that. Just stick to what DA is best at, pause-tactic combat. The new targetting thing on console is nice though.