I don't need nor do I want THIS kind of change. If DA3 is anything at all like DA2, I'll pass.
Alright, so now that most of us agree...
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#152
Posté 12 mars 2011 - 02:48
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That is funny as your original message to me was more or less a copy and paste job from a comment yesterday.Anathemic wrote...
tez19 wrote...
Away with you.Anathemic wrote...
tez19 wrote...
I have much more important things in my life to worry about and stress over but if the people nerdraging do not then i feel sorry for them if DA2 is the major concern in their life.
tez, I told you to stop trolling. Keep it up and you'll spark another argument, with me. And I think we both know who will be the victor.
Still stuck with the same comebacks?
How about you try being productive and stop calling people lifeless. Or trying to ram down your 'self proclaimed ego of being a better human specimen' down people's throats.
I cannot help the fact if i am a better human specimen than you and i am proud of the fact i have a good physique and decent earnings.
However i finished with you a while ago, i have used you up and am bored of you.
So to repeat myself.
Away with you.
Shoo.
#153
Posté 12 mars 2011 - 02:56
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Look, cut out the fighting or take it to PM. Might be a good time to re-read the site rules.
#154
Posté 12 mars 2011 - 02:59
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My biggest hope for the future is that they change the companion equipment style. Whats the point of having so many different equipment drops that only a single player can wear?
I mean in just my small amount of time playing (first 5 hours) , how could I possibly need to find 15 different helms for a single character to wear?
Plus I severly dislike being lead by the hand through every side quest. If i find a random object that starts a quest, give me a hint as to who might want it and a general location and let me look for them. Don't put a giant arrow over a randomly generated character and in the map and say hey stupid go here.
Other then that, I'm loving the game and plan to play multiple character combinations to see how it changes the challenge and the interactions.
I mean in just my small amount of time playing (first 5 hours) , how could I possibly need to find 15 different helms for a single character to wear?
Plus I severly dislike being lead by the hand through every side quest. If i find a random object that starts a quest, give me a hint as to who might want it and a general location and let me look for them. Don't put a giant arrow over a randomly generated character and in the map and say hey stupid go here.
Other then that, I'm loving the game and plan to play multiple character combinations to see how it changes the challenge and the interactions.
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Posté 12 mars 2011 - 03:01
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if these Bioware/EA console loving lickspittles are the future of gaming count me out.
people. this isn't supposed to be a "game" ... it was supposed to be, billed and sold as, A ROLE PLAYING GAME.
that means something. this is a watered down, dumbed down hack and slash. now maybe you like hack and slashes. that is awesome, sometimes i do to. but what i really like is a true RPG and all of the complexity that is supposed to entail. and from a company that made astoundingly complex and rich RPGs in Baldur's Gate and Neverwinter Nights this is an insult to the whole genre.
is it a bad game? no, i guess it is okay if you were wanting a Prince of Persia or God of War or some other similar walk thru cinematic hack and slash film/game.
let's look at the facts:
1. the character development is pathetic. the choice of races and classes is almost non-existant. the skills and overall character development is so stunted and dumbed down that it hardly deserves the name RPG. hey, i get it ... if you are a kid or a console gamer maybe the complex rules of AD&D3 that were underlying NWN are to much for you to handle. that's fine. play one of another 100 games that don't do that. why does the one company that used to make good RPGs need to cater to you and make the 101th lame as hack and slash calling it an RPG?
2. the number of major "areas" you can go to and the variety of the "sub areas" is downright PATHETC. even DA:O was somewhat limited compared to iconic RPGs like Elder Scrolls and NWN but at least that had about 6 major areas and dozens of sub areas and ALL of the original and some of them weren't just one long winding tunnel that it is impossible to get lost in or get around more than one way. how stupid do you need the game to be to play it? seriously? you people like "hey i'll just follow this one simple path to the end" dungeons and areas? have your brains eroded so far as that? i do like the day/night thing but it wasn't added on to a really expansive world as an extra it was used as a cheap arsed short cut to try and "double" the pathetic scope of Kirkwall. i mean the people who are writing the story and creating the world of Dragon Age are doing a pretty darn good job. NWN and BG had an advantage of being set in a pre-established D&D world (the best one ever created) but DA has done a good job building up a world and lore over the first game and DLCs. FREAKING USE IT. hey, how about a quest in Antiva? other cities in the Free Marshes? maybe a behind enemy lines mission to Par Vallon? you made all of those places up and fleshed out their story get of your lazy arses and put them IN THE FRACKIN GAME! but wow, this being stuck in Kirkwall sure is nice. and what a joke the Deep Roads were. in DA:O the deep roads section was 10 times bigger. one small section was bigger than the whole adventure in the Dark Roads this time ... truly pathetic.
3. the lack of variety and customization of equipment is just pathetic. it wasn't good in DA:O either. it was one of the weakest parts of that game and this has taken it to an all new low level. anybody who played NWN knows what a truly expansive and customizable equipment palette for a game is. their first excuse was "we want everything to be a boring brown to make it look "gritty and realistic" and then they proceed to prove their utter hypocrites with supersized anime swords. can a rogue get a black/grey suit of leather amour that doesn't make them look like an escaped linebacker or extra from mad max? and in DA2 there is so much stuff that is just "belt" and "ring" it is a shocking lack of creativity and detail not to mention infuriating for actually trying to customize yourself and your party as somebody stated. and don't get me started on the perma-armour of your team. hey dip****es, people play RPGs so they can build not just their character but their whole party. equipment is a big part of that. handcuffing the creativity of the player by forcing them into premolded characters and companions is just pathetic. why don't you just make the game Fable and get it over with (a game i liked btw because it was meant to be a console and simple game).
4. limited interactivity with the world is just sad. sure i was sadistic and liked to kill everyone in the game after i was done with them in NWN but in DA2 you can't even talk to your companions more than once in a blue moon and then the conversations are so painfully short and simplistic and even labled for the really stupid that it is not at all enjoyable. you should be able to talk to tons of people, some useful and some not and some not useful til later in a good immersive RPG. you should be able to have tons of conversations a lot of the time with your companions to build a relationship with them. DA:O was good for that. each companion had a long and interesting story and quest you could do. here the one really bonding character in my game, my sister, ends up gone. way to go.
these are just 4 things, undeniable things, that are quantitatively worse in DA2 than DA:O. and these things make DA2 an unarguably WORSE Role Playing Game by any true and comprehensible definition of the term RPG. now, admittedly if you don't like RPGs and love hack and slash, buttom masher, linear games than maybe the lack of these things is good for you but again this is an RPG from a company that is supposed to be the ONE company with a history of great RPGs still interested in making them. now obviously that is no longer the case. this is no longer the company that gave us groundbreaking and historic games like Baldur's Gate and Nevewinter Nights and Knights Of The Old Republic (a game i loved even tho i detest star wars pretty much and don't really care for sci-fi). this is a new company that spews out simplistic trite rubbish for mass consumption from console gamers who want to spend a couple of days mashing a few buttons, seeing some nice gore and pretty pictures and not having to do a whole bunch of thinking and planning and actual "ROLE PLAYING".
which is why i'll never buy another Bioware game as long as they are part of EA. i'll simply reload my NWN/NWN2 game and enjoy all of the great work by community developers that was inspired by a truly inspired game that is 20x better than this krap despite being a decade older.
people. this isn't supposed to be a "game" ... it was supposed to be, billed and sold as, A ROLE PLAYING GAME.
that means something. this is a watered down, dumbed down hack and slash. now maybe you like hack and slashes. that is awesome, sometimes i do to. but what i really like is a true RPG and all of the complexity that is supposed to entail. and from a company that made astoundingly complex and rich RPGs in Baldur's Gate and Neverwinter Nights this is an insult to the whole genre.
is it a bad game? no, i guess it is okay if you were wanting a Prince of Persia or God of War or some other similar walk thru cinematic hack and slash film/game.
let's look at the facts:
1. the character development is pathetic. the choice of races and classes is almost non-existant. the skills and overall character development is so stunted and dumbed down that it hardly deserves the name RPG. hey, i get it ... if you are a kid or a console gamer maybe the complex rules of AD&D3 that were underlying NWN are to much for you to handle. that's fine. play one of another 100 games that don't do that. why does the one company that used to make good RPGs need to cater to you and make the 101th lame as hack and slash calling it an RPG?
2. the number of major "areas" you can go to and the variety of the "sub areas" is downright PATHETC. even DA:O was somewhat limited compared to iconic RPGs like Elder Scrolls and NWN but at least that had about 6 major areas and dozens of sub areas and ALL of the original and some of them weren't just one long winding tunnel that it is impossible to get lost in or get around more than one way. how stupid do you need the game to be to play it? seriously? you people like "hey i'll just follow this one simple path to the end" dungeons and areas? have your brains eroded so far as that? i do like the day/night thing but it wasn't added on to a really expansive world as an extra it was used as a cheap arsed short cut to try and "double" the pathetic scope of Kirkwall. i mean the people who are writing the story and creating the world of Dragon Age are doing a pretty darn good job. NWN and BG had an advantage of being set in a pre-established D&D world (the best one ever created) but DA has done a good job building up a world and lore over the first game and DLCs. FREAKING USE IT. hey, how about a quest in Antiva? other cities in the Free Marshes? maybe a behind enemy lines mission to Par Vallon? you made all of those places up and fleshed out their story get of your lazy arses and put them IN THE FRACKIN GAME! but wow, this being stuck in Kirkwall sure is nice. and what a joke the Deep Roads were. in DA:O the deep roads section was 10 times bigger. one small section was bigger than the whole adventure in the Dark Roads this time ... truly pathetic.
3. the lack of variety and customization of equipment is just pathetic. it wasn't good in DA:O either. it was one of the weakest parts of that game and this has taken it to an all new low level. anybody who played NWN knows what a truly expansive and customizable equipment palette for a game is. their first excuse was "we want everything to be a boring brown to make it look "gritty and realistic" and then they proceed to prove their utter hypocrites with supersized anime swords. can a rogue get a black/grey suit of leather amour that doesn't make them look like an escaped linebacker or extra from mad max? and in DA2 there is so much stuff that is just "belt" and "ring" it is a shocking lack of creativity and detail not to mention infuriating for actually trying to customize yourself and your party as somebody stated. and don't get me started on the perma-armour of your team. hey dip****es, people play RPGs so they can build not just their character but their whole party. equipment is a big part of that. handcuffing the creativity of the player by forcing them into premolded characters and companions is just pathetic. why don't you just make the game Fable and get it over with (a game i liked btw because it was meant to be a console and simple game).
4. limited interactivity with the world is just sad. sure i was sadistic and liked to kill everyone in the game after i was done with them in NWN but in DA2 you can't even talk to your companions more than once in a blue moon and then the conversations are so painfully short and simplistic and even labled for the really stupid that it is not at all enjoyable. you should be able to talk to tons of people, some useful and some not and some not useful til later in a good immersive RPG. you should be able to have tons of conversations a lot of the time with your companions to build a relationship with them. DA:O was good for that. each companion had a long and interesting story and quest you could do. here the one really bonding character in my game, my sister, ends up gone. way to go.
these are just 4 things, undeniable things, that are quantitatively worse in DA2 than DA:O. and these things make DA2 an unarguably WORSE Role Playing Game by any true and comprehensible definition of the term RPG. now, admittedly if you don't like RPGs and love hack and slash, buttom masher, linear games than maybe the lack of these things is good for you but again this is an RPG from a company that is supposed to be the ONE company with a history of great RPGs still interested in making them. now obviously that is no longer the case. this is no longer the company that gave us groundbreaking and historic games like Baldur's Gate and Nevewinter Nights and Knights Of The Old Republic (a game i loved even tho i detest star wars pretty much and don't really care for sci-fi). this is a new company that spews out simplistic trite rubbish for mass consumption from console gamers who want to spend a couple of days mashing a few buttons, seeing some nice gore and pretty pictures and not having to do a whole bunch of thinking and planning and actual "ROLE PLAYING".
which is why i'll never buy another Bioware game as long as they are part of EA. i'll simply reload my NWN/NWN2 game and enjoy all of the great work by community developers that was inspired by a truly inspired game that is 20x better than this krap despite being a decade older.
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#156
Posté 12 mars 2011 - 03:01
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I have every game bioware released (I am a PC & PS3 owner), even 2 copies of Dragon Age: Origins (normal & ultimate edition) but couldnt play DA2, it was .... disgusting, set aside buying it I didnt even think a second about pirating it to see at least a small part of it, demo was ****ing more than enough to cancel my signature edition pre-order, and watching videos on net took all my doubt about my decision of cancellation.
I will never ever pre-order a game from Bioware again, they began aiming towards console too much, canceled my ME3 and SWTOR (guild wars 2 will own swtor anyway if you look at the direction bioware is heading) preorders as well, gonna wait for release and REVIEWS of PLAYERS not console gamers or bribed websites.I own a ps3 as well, but if I would ever wanted to play something like DA2 on my ps3 I would put on Devil May Cry at least far better action-side/visuals/cinematics.
Thank god Withcer 2 and Skyrim is coming this year, Elder Scroll games has an insanely big modding community which makes the game limitless adventure.At least saved a game's money by not buying that crap.
If any of you really really enjoyed every min of DA2 and hated DA:O stay away from real RPGs cuz you dont know any**** about rpg
I will never ever pre-order a game from Bioware again, they began aiming towards console too much, canceled my ME3 and SWTOR (guild wars 2 will own swtor anyway if you look at the direction bioware is heading) preorders as well, gonna wait for release and REVIEWS of PLAYERS not console gamers or bribed websites.I own a ps3 as well, but if I would ever wanted to play something like DA2 on my ps3 I would put on Devil May Cry at least far better action-side/visuals/cinematics.
Thank god Withcer 2 and Skyrim is coming this year, Elder Scroll games has an insanely big modding community which makes the game limitless adventure.At least saved a game's money by not buying that crap.
If any of you really really enjoyed every min of DA2 and hated DA:O stay away from real RPGs cuz you dont know any**** about rpg
Modifié par Volatile000, 12 mars 2011 - 03:06 .
#157
Posté 12 mars 2011 - 03:07
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I haven't read the whole thread so its probably already been said but in DA:O they mentioned that the chantry calender goes by ages and that its currently in the dragon age and each age is approximately a century so if they wanted they could take you back or forward to a different age and make it completely different like that or they could make a sequal to dragon age: origins and build off of the story already there. personally id like to go back in time when the grey wardens rode gryphons but thats just me.
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Posté 12 mars 2011 - 03:09
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Volatile000 wrote...
I have every game bioware released (I am a PC & PS3 owner), even 2 copies of Dragon Age: Origins (normal & ultimate edition) but couldnt play DA2, it was .... disgusting, set aside buying it I didnt even think a second about pirating it to see at least a small part of it, demo was ****ing more than enough to cancel my signature edition pre-order, and watching videos on net took all my doubt about my decision of cancellation.
I will never ever pre-order a game from Bioware again, they began aiming towards console too much, canceled my ME3 and SWTOR preorders as well, gonna wait for release and REVIEWS of PLAYERS not console gamers or bribed websites.I own a ps3 as well, but if I would ever wanted to play something like DA2 on my ps3 I would put on Devil May Cry at least far better action-side/visuals/cinematics.
Thank god Withcer 2 and Skyrim is coming this year, Elder Scroll games has an insanely big modding community which makes the game limitless adventure.At least saved a game's money by not buying that crap.
If any of you really really enjoyed every min of DA2 and hated DA:O stay away from real RPGs cuz you dont know any**** about rpg
QFT^
All these idiots that just LOVE DA2 are hack-and-slash loving morons. It's an RPG game, if you want some hack-and-slash, go find one!
I also completely agree with you, I've completely lost trust in BW, I'll never pre-order another of their games except ME3, and that's purely because I need to finish the story for it, I'm terrified they'll screw it up...
Also, I love all these people's counter-intellectual argument that we are the "loud minority" hey...guys...if we're the LOUD MINORITY that makes you all the SILENT MAJORITY in your argument, correct? Then...How the hell do you know you're a majority if you're so silent? No, your argument works against you because you made up this idea that you are the majority. We are the loud majority, you are the stupid minority.
Well, got that out of my system...time to tremble in fear for 9 months until ME3 comes out...
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Posté 12 mars 2011 - 03:14
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Dragon Age 2 does feel rushed, and it -was- rushed too anyone that wishes to argue that you need to go read the interview with the developers in which BIOWARE openly states they had been rushed in it's release thanks to EA. That said, overall it's ok. It improved in some areas, but sadly the areas it improves on are few.
I've been watching the forums since DA2 released a few days ago, picked mine up at the midnight release and have toyed with it here and there. I can't tell you why, because I'm not sure myself although if I had to take a shot at it I'd guess it's the lack of direction with the story. I can't play this game for more then 20 minutes without reaching an "Ok, can something fun happen now?' It feels like they took gameplay from DA:O, mangled it, and repasted it with side bonus missions being the entire game. Seriousness the side quest in DA:O had as much story as the plot quest for DA2. Combat while it could have been great changed to visual, the fact they tried to change the game into an action RPG and I now have to button mash bores me too all hell. The animation changes are very welcome it looks much nicer now. However if I wanted an action RPG I'd go play one and turn on Devil May Cry. I wanted a strategy RPG, which could be said of dragon age however the horrific new camera angles limit how well you could actually play this as a strategy. I also find the repeated 4-5 waves of enemies in one spot is nothing but an annoyence, I'd rather have their numbers turned down and their power turned up.
I also find the new conversation wheel very limiting, instead of making a personality for a character it feels like I am once again set back to I can choose to just be good or evil. My favorite part of DA was the ability to completly customize a personality, in DA2 I feel robbed of that chance. The other part of coversations that bothers me is something that bothered me in Awakening and in DLCs which is the lack being able to talk to my party at will, well at least in awakening I could go to my camp and chat them all up, now I have to remove said character from my party and go visit their house. Minor annoyence, yes, however it remains something I didn't like about it. The characters depth feels limited and lowered, I feel like none of these characters have personality, besides mabye anders. I just have a really hard time caring for any of the characters.
Story wise it's not bad, I'm not retarded and I was not expecting to be a grey warden again when only two more blights are even possible. I myself like to think the game is moving towards trying to save the remaining old gods(The whole two left) however after DA2 I'm not so sure about this.
Graphics have been improved, and thats awsome except since it lacks in dungeon variety I have a highly hard time trying to enjoy these nice new graphics.
I dislike how little of what my Warden did seemed to affect anything in this game. Many of the DLCs didn't seem to have ANY impact, and awakening seems to have very little impact as well.
My final problem with this game was one that an old movie once had a problem with, the movie Phone Booth. Now this entire movie took place on one street corner in which a sniper had him holed, blah blah. Good movie but it's problem was it took place all in one corner. DA2 has done this with a single town, the thing with this to me is. 2 hour movie, one corner. 40 hour game, one town =/ It strips the feeling of being an epic and reduces it to being a childs story book.
Don't get me wrong, I do like DA2, and am still very likly to buy DA3 so long as it doesn't look as rushed and it looks like Bioware were allowed to do their jobs. However right now DAO remains to be my favorite RPG in history. I'm horrified at how much profit DA2 has already made though, as it's likly to be considered amazing while much of the games core players feel abandoned. In which, EA will likly push another cheap work and ruin our game farther. I'd really, really, like to hear that they just pushed this to shut EA up, and have been working on DA3 this entire time in secret instead of finding out another "Epic" got rushed in just over a years time.
I've been watching the forums since DA2 released a few days ago, picked mine up at the midnight release and have toyed with it here and there. I can't tell you why, because I'm not sure myself although if I had to take a shot at it I'd guess it's the lack of direction with the story. I can't play this game for more then 20 minutes without reaching an "Ok, can something fun happen now?' It feels like they took gameplay from DA:O, mangled it, and repasted it with side bonus missions being the entire game. Seriousness the side quest in DA:O had as much story as the plot quest for DA2. Combat while it could have been great changed to visual, the fact they tried to change the game into an action RPG and I now have to button mash bores me too all hell. The animation changes are very welcome it looks much nicer now. However if I wanted an action RPG I'd go play one and turn on Devil May Cry. I wanted a strategy RPG, which could be said of dragon age however the horrific new camera angles limit how well you could actually play this as a strategy. I also find the repeated 4-5 waves of enemies in one spot is nothing but an annoyence, I'd rather have their numbers turned down and their power turned up.
I also find the new conversation wheel very limiting, instead of making a personality for a character it feels like I am once again set back to I can choose to just be good or evil. My favorite part of DA was the ability to completly customize a personality, in DA2 I feel robbed of that chance. The other part of coversations that bothers me is something that bothered me in Awakening and in DLCs which is the lack being able to talk to my party at will, well at least in awakening I could go to my camp and chat them all up, now I have to remove said character from my party and go visit their house. Minor annoyence, yes, however it remains something I didn't like about it. The characters depth feels limited and lowered, I feel like none of these characters have personality, besides mabye anders. I just have a really hard time caring for any of the characters.
Story wise it's not bad, I'm not retarded and I was not expecting to be a grey warden again when only two more blights are even possible. I myself like to think the game is moving towards trying to save the remaining old gods(The whole two left) however after DA2 I'm not so sure about this.
Graphics have been improved, and thats awsome except since it lacks in dungeon variety I have a highly hard time trying to enjoy these nice new graphics.
I dislike how little of what my Warden did seemed to affect anything in this game. Many of the DLCs didn't seem to have ANY impact, and awakening seems to have very little impact as well.
My final problem with this game was one that an old movie once had a problem with, the movie Phone Booth. Now this entire movie took place on one street corner in which a sniper had him holed, blah blah. Good movie but it's problem was it took place all in one corner. DA2 has done this with a single town, the thing with this to me is. 2 hour movie, one corner. 40 hour game, one town =/ It strips the feeling of being an epic and reduces it to being a childs story book.
Don't get me wrong, I do like DA2, and am still very likly to buy DA3 so long as it doesn't look as rushed and it looks like Bioware were allowed to do their jobs. However right now DAO remains to be my favorite RPG in history. I'm horrified at how much profit DA2 has already made though, as it's likly to be considered amazing while much of the games core players feel abandoned. In which, EA will likly push another cheap work and ruin our game farther. I'd really, really, like to hear that they just pushed this to shut EA up, and have been working on DA3 this entire time in secret instead of finding out another "Epic" got rushed in just over a years time.
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Volatile000 wrote...
I have every game bioware released (I am a PC & PS3 owner), even 2 copies of Dragon Age: Origins (normal & ultimate edition) but couldnt play DA2, it was .... disgusting, set aside buying it I didnt even think a second about pirating it to see at least a small part of it, demo was ****ing more than enough to cancel my signature edition pre-order, and watching videos on net took all my doubt about my decision of cancellation.
I will never ever pre-order a game from Bioware again, they began aiming towards console too much, canceled my ME3 and SWTOR preorders as well, gonna wait for release and REVIEWS of PLAYERS not console gamers or bribed websites.I own a ps3 as well, but if I would ever wanted to play something like DA2 on my ps3 I would put on Devil May Cry at least far better action-side/visuals/cinematics.
Thank god Withcer 2 and Skyrim is coming this year, Elder Scroll games has an insanely big modding community which makes the game limitless adventure.At least saved a game's money by not buying that crap.
If any of you really really enjoyed every min of DA2 and hated DA:O stay away from real RPGs cuz you dont know any**** about rpg
QFT^
All these idiots that just LOVE DA2 are hack-and-slash loving morons. It's an RPG game, if you want some hack-and-slash, go find one!
I also completely agree with you, I've completely lost trust in BW, I'll never pre-order another of their games except ME3, and that's purely because I need to finish the story for it, I'm terrified they'll screw it up...
Also, I love all these people's counter-intellectual argument that we are the "loud minority" hey...guys...if we're the LOUD MINORITY that makes you all the SILENT MAJORITY in your argument, correct? Then...How the hell do you know you're a majority if you're so silent? No, your argument works against you because you made up this idea that you are the majority. We are the loud majority, you are the stupid minority.
Well, got that out of my system...time to tremble in fear for 9 months until ME3 comes out...
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Posté 12 mars 2011 - 03:23
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I don't agree. The people who enjoy are not here b****ing.
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If they dont **** then bioware wont change dragon age 3 so stop ragging.Ringo12 wrote...
I don't agree. The people who enjoy are not here b****ing.
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Posté 12 mars 2011 - 03:27
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Ringo12 wrote...
I don't agree. The people who enjoy are not here b****ing.
The few who do like it are here trying to defend it, an immensely difficult cause indeed.
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Posté 12 mars 2011 - 03:29
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I hope they completely ignore DA2 and just go with a direct sequel to DA:O. With your Grey Warden and everything.
I think there has been enough backlash with DA2 that they will at the very least add some of the old stuff back, and hopefully spend more than a year making the game.
I think there has been enough backlash with DA2 that they will at the very least add some of the old stuff back, and hopefully spend more than a year making the game.
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Posté 12 mars 2011 - 03:30
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tez19 wrote...
That is funny as your original message to me was more or less a copy and paste job from a comment yesterday.Anathemic wrote...
tez19 wrote...
Away with you.Anathemic wrote...
tez19 wrote...
I have much more important things in my life to worry about and stress over but if the people nerdraging do not then i feel sorry for them if DA2 is the major concern in their life.
tez, I told you to stop trolling. Keep it up and you'll spark another argument, with me. And I think we both know who will be the victor.
Still stuck with the same comebacks?
How about you try being productive and stop calling people lifeless. Or trying to ram down your 'self proclaimed ego of being a better human specimen' down people's throats.
I cannot help the fact if i am a better human specimen than you and i am proud of the fact i have a good physique and decent earnings.
However i finished with you a while ago, i have used you up and am bored of you.
So to repeat myself.
Away with you.
Shoo.
And the mixture of arrogance and ignorance corrupts the air once again.
You finished me a while ago? Last time I recall I wiped the floor with you by having everyone demean you troll and a nobody last time you crossed my path.
Please be courteous and attempt to be productive without inflating your self-proclaimed ego with every post you make.
#166
Posté 12 mars 2011 - 03:32
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Sabiancym wrote...
I hope they completely ignore DA2 and just go with a direct sequel to DA:O. With your Grey Warden and everything.
I think there has been enough backlash with DA2 that they will at the very least add some of the old stuff back, and hopefully spend more than a year making the game.
I think people are mistaking the backlash to mean that nobody wants improvement. Quite the opposite. In my official review to BioWare I praised the improved combat (though it was still a bit imbalanced), level system, and inventory (though the companion armor thing sucked).
But what people don't realize is that those all amount to flashy CG in a movie. It can't cover up the fact that the plot sucked, the characters were paper thin, the locations were reused OVER AND OVER. The game sucked because it was a crappy game, not because it implemented new stuff. I even said (in my review) it was such a shame that those nice new features had to go into a crappy game.
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Posté 12 mars 2011 - 03:36
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I have noticed something... Everything and everyone is getting less and less intelligent. The games are getting easier and less interesting (I don't mean they're terrible. I liked DA:O and DA2.). I mean even WoW and, for a lack of a better example, Maple Story got easier! I think we should all stop being so critical and starting fights over stupid things such as this. Did you guys learn nothing from the "plot" in DA2? Maybe we should all just go occupy ourselves with other activities that don't involve bashing peoples opinions.
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Posté 12 mars 2011 - 03:38
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I would ideally like the combat of DA2 combined with the sense of exploration of DA:O. I like both games and think neither is perfect; the first is a chore from a combat perspective, whereas the second's slow start and recycled locations hurt it. Taking the best of both and weaving them together would contribute to a really wonderful experience. As it stands, I think they're both 8.5/10-level games for different reasons.
Anyone who actually thinks DA2 is a substandard game is fooling themself. If the exact same game was released under the title Kirkwall, with no DA:O in existence, reaction would be much better. Which means people are reacting out of a sense of misplaced rage, not an honest judgment of the material.
Anyone who actually thinks DA2 is a substandard game is fooling themself. If the exact same game was released under the title Kirkwall, with no DA:O in existence, reaction would be much better. Which means people are reacting out of a sense of misplaced rage, not an honest judgment of the material.
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#169
Posté 12 mars 2011 - 03:38
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xnoxiousx wrote...
If they dont **** then bioware wont change dragon age 3 so stop ragging.Ringo12 wrote...
I don't agree. The people who enjoy are not here b****ing.
No, they need to whine... AND not buy the game, look at that recent hater who got banned from forums and losing access to the game: I mean, why? If you hate the game so much that you see a need to whine on the forum, then why are you getting the game day one? Is there a shop that sell release day game at 99% off or something? Or that none of the 1st hand purchase money go to the dev? Vote with your wallet isn't a joke or a fancy "STFU", how many people whined about the DAO pre-order DLC crappage? How many people bought the game? And did Bioware/EA stopped doing the pre-order DLC crap? ... Because a lot of these whiners still pre-ordered the bloody game after they whined and whined forever...
It's a wish that they listen to the forum posters, but the truth is, if they continue to make money thru your day-one purchase, why do they need to change anything?
*Does not apply if you are not a day-one buyer + whiner/hater. Thought I might add that in case people get oversensitive.
#170
Posté 12 mars 2011 - 03:38
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After reading the posts in this topic, it does seem that opinions are evenly split but the people who hate it are more vocal. =/
Is there really a need for people to go bash those who like the game? Just agree to disagree. Everyone has their own opinions.
Is there really a need for people to go bash those who like the game? Just agree to disagree. Everyone has their own opinions.
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#171
Posté 12 mars 2011 - 03:42
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TricksterPuppet wrote...
After reading the posts in this topic, it does seem that opinions are evenly split but the people who hate it are more vocal. =/
Is there really a need for people to go bash those who like the game? Just agree to disagree. Everyone has their own opinions.
People who 'agree to disagree' don't get anything changed. 'Agreeing to disagree' is the same as sitting back and taking it. I'm tired of hearing that neutralist line.
#172
Posté 12 mars 2011 - 03:44
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Xena_Shepard wrote...
Sabiancym wrote...
I hope they completely ignore DA2 and just go with a direct sequel to DA:O. With your Grey Warden and everything.
I think there has been enough backlash with DA2 that they will at the very least add some of the old stuff back, and hopefully spend more than a year making the game.
I think people are mistaking the backlash to mean that nobody wants improvement. Quite the opposite. In my official review to BioWare I praised the improved combat (though it was still a bit imbalanced), level system, and inventory (though the companion armor thing sucked).
But what people don't realize is that those all amount to flashy CG in a movie. It can't cover up the fact that the plot sucked, the characters were paper thin, the locations were reused OVER AND OVER. The game sucked because it was a crappy game, not because it implemented new stuff. I even said (in my review) it was such a shame that those nice new features had to go into a crappy game.
this
#173
Posté 12 mars 2011 - 03:45
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You guys are treating 9s and 8s as a bad score, lol u dumb.
#174
Posté 12 mars 2011 - 03:45
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'Drogo45 wrote...
Most do not agree. Most see that DA2 is better and more advanced than DA. You are in the minority by a long shot.
I only quoted this one as it's the first to agree with me.
The reason it seems to some that "everybody" hates the game is that the ones that do are posting venom while the ones posting they like it are ignored by countless threads. These countless threads bear a striking similarity...It's the same people over and over.
Also, it's the same complaints. Let me be the first to tell you something your parents should have, NOBODY AND NOTHING IS PERFECT. While you young morons were getting trophies no matter WHAT place you finished in, you began to think everything was supposed to be exactly as you imagined it. Why not? Nobody told you that life isn't always fair and can be hard. I blame your parents, not you, as if you coddle a child too much, they grow up without the necessary teachings to help them cope with an unfair world.
Let's go back in time to the late 80's early 90's world of RPGs. As far as consoles went, the NES acted like they never heard of the term except in Japan. Sega did try, but in very small increments. This meant it might be over a year before you had a new RPG to buy. In the meantime, you had what seemed like 6,000 Mortal Kombats and clones of it as "choice"(the most embarrassing of which, IMO, was Shaq Fu). Those of us who liked the RPG/strategy market were grateful for anything to come our way. D & D manuals weren't as commonplace and were, in fact, banned in a lot of areas. The fantasy sections of the bookstore and libraries were tiny. We never thought that RPG's would ever take off. As for PC RPG's, there were quite a few, but computers were more expensive, economy of that time wise, and therefore rarer than today. I had 2 people in my high school that owned one.
Fast forward to today. SOmething Like DA2 was never imagined back then. With it's immersive storylines, memorable characters, and all other elements of a great RPG, it should be lauded as yet another success in a still growing RPG market. Instead, we hear people gripe about small issues that tick them, personally, off. Know what happens when the gripers take over? Nothing. That means companies wont' take any chances with our market. We go back to begging for games that are released in Japan only. We're all in an economic downward spiral, people, and if the gripers take over, companies will only release what they feel is a sure seller. We'll end up with 6 Million Halo clones and shooters only.( I respect all genres, even those I'm not good at, but I hate it when one genre dominates too much).
#175
Posté 12 mars 2011 - 03:46
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Xena_Shepard wrote...
TricksterPuppet wrote...
After reading the posts in this topic, it does seem that opinions are evenly split but the people who hate it are more vocal. =/
Is there really a need for people to go bash those who like the game? Just agree to disagree. Everyone has their own opinions.
People who 'agree to disagree' don't get anything changed. 'Agreeing to disagree' is the same as sitting back and taking it. I'm tired of hearing that neutralist line.
I didn't really mean it that way. People can complain as much as they want, but they shouldn't insult others for liking it.
