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[Foolsfolly]

I don't feel sorry for BioWare. It wasn't the best game ever, it was about standard for any other production studio.

I feel sorry for Obsidian. Great talent...never can pull a game off perfectly. New Vegas and Alpha Protocol were good attempts and worth a few play-throughs though.

[TwistedComplex]

Surematt wrote...

4chan did not do this. dont be so stupid. if this was a raid, the numbers would be in the thousands all saying 0. not low hundreds mostly saying 2-5. I am sure a few neckbeards raged and gave it a 0 after playing the demo, but than, some of the 10's are just bull**** too.

Do i really need to re-post this image?




Why is it that on every game website, the user reviews for Dragon Age 2 are in the mid 80s, but are in the low 30s on metacritic?

If it looks like a duck....

Modifié par TwistedComplex, 12 mars 2011 - 04:48 .

[Shatterkiss]

I think Bioware worked hard, but they didn't work long enough (I blame EA) and their work went in some bad directions (EA and Bioware share the blame). Still, if they cared about quality they'd work on fixing things in DA2. Instead, they say they'll take feedback into account for DA3. Too little, too late.

[mjboldy]

These tears from the griefers need more sugar, they are much too bitter.

[Zepplin_Rules]

If anybody did a raid of 140 people it was RPGcodex. They are the hipsters of rpg gaming. I salute you all, you pretty princesses.

Also. KINGCOMRADE!!!!

[MachDelta]

topster88 wrote...

People think the negative posts are because of 4chan?

How delusional are you?

There was a bit of a spat on these boards and on /v/ a few days ago. It culminated in members of both boards (though 4chan is known for its raids) bombing zero-scores on metacritic to drag the average down.
Meh.

[lady dansen]

MrBobDA wrote...

Don't feel bad for Bioware. A lot of the issues were brought on themselves with terrible PR for the game. Now that it isn't living up to expectations they have to deal with the backlash. Either the company grows or they crumble from this experience. They need to re-establish their AAA status with Mass Effect 3.

I own ME1 and ME2 - they are just ok....DA:O Was AWESOME!!!  I pre-ordered DA II hoping, crosing my figures, praying (in a sense) that DA II would be just as great....I came here to read about it...I've also looked on YouTube...I'm looking for how people feel about the game... what I'm see is people like ME1 or 2 means very little to me..... do you like DA II - why or why not? 

I have not loaded it yet....So I can still return it...sad, but $$ is $$.  I want a game like dragon age: origins, NOt Awakening.... and I really don't know yet...about DA II  - ....what is the verdict..

[mjboldy]

lady dansen wrote...

MrBobDA wrote...

Don't feel bad for Bioware. A lot of the issues were brought on themselves with terrible PR for the game. Now that it isn't living up to expectations they have to deal with the backlash. Either the company grows or they crumble from this experience. They need to re-establish their AAA status with Mass Effect 3.

I own ME1 and ME2 - they are just ok....DA:O Was AWESOME!!!  I pre-ordered DA II hoping, crosing my figures, praying (in a sense) that DA II would be just as great....I came here to read about it...I've also looked on YouTube...I'm looking for how people feel about the game... what I'm see is people like ME1 or 2 means very little to me..... do you like DA II - why or why not? 

I have not loaded it yet....So I can still return it...sad, but $$ is $$.  I want a game like dragon age: origins, NOt Awakening.... and I really don't know yet...about DA II  - ....what is the verdict..

I'm liking it so far and I'm pretty far in. If you get opinions on here however, most of them are going to be very negative of the game.

I didn't really like Awakening myself but loved DA:O. Aside from a few annoying nuances of DA II such as attack queue emptying when you get knocked back, performance issues with the cutscenes and a few other things (which I'm sure will be fixed in the first update), I'm loving it. My only qualm with it would probably be the waves of enemies. Seems like every time you come across a group of enemies, they usually come in waves and can really overwhelm you pretty easily and I guess there is of course the fact that you can not zoom out quite as far as you could in DA:O. I've managed fine so far with only a few times where I really wished I could move it just a little further.

[Dragoonlordz]

I would never trust metacritic before as far as I could throw a 900st fat lady (not far), My view hasn't changed with or without DA2.

[Fiery Specter]

MachDelta wrote...

topster88 wrote...

People think the negative posts are because of 4chan?

How delusional are you?

There was a bit of a spat on these boards and on /v/ a few days ago. It culminated in members of both boards (though 4chan is known for its raids) bombing zero-scores on metacritic to drag the average down.
Meh.

I wouldn't put it past the dev's to  give fake reviews to artificially raise the scores.  I think that is more credible.

[Literateminority]

TwistedComplex wrote...

Surematt wrote...

4chan did not do this. dont be so stupid. if this was a raid, the numbers would be in the thousands all saying 0. not low hundreds mostly saying 2-5. I am sure a few neckbeards raged and gave it a 0 after playing the demo, but than, some of the 10's are just bull**** too.

Do i really need to re-post this image?




Why is it that on every game website, the user reviews for Dragon Age 2 are in the mid 80s, but are in the low 30s on metacritic?

If it looks like a duck....

It is because metacritics does not delete low rating user reviews like some other sites do. Censoring all low rating reviews will get the average rating higher. As a crpg DA 2 is a really bad game and does not deserve more than 6 out of 10 period. As a gay dating sim, or a hack and slay, maybe it deserves more. Yet most people did rate it as what it was advertised for; a crpg in the spirit of Baldurs Gate! And based on that 1 out of 10 ratings are actually valid expressions of opinion.

Modifié par Literateminority, 12 mars 2011 - 05:13 .

[Keele]

Fiery Specter wrote...

MachDelta wrote...

topster88 wrote...

People think the negative posts are because of 4chan?

How delusional are you?

There was a bit of a spat on these boards and on /v/ a few days ago. It culminated in members of both boards (though 4chan is known for its raids) bombing zero-scores on metacritic to drag the average down.
Meh.

I wouldn't put it past the dev's to  give fake reviews to artificially raise the scores.  I think that is more credible.

Then get your head checked.

[AlanC9]

I didn't even know Metacritic had user ratings until this business blew up.

[TwistedComplex]

JohnnyDollar wrote...

And I thought I was bored.  I don't know which is worse, that, or screwball conspiracy theories about EA...and JFK.

Yeah, that proves it!.  Mkay. 

As if it makes any difference anyway.  Even if it was true, I wonder why they decided to do it with DA2?  Surely it wouldn't have anything to do with the quality of the game, or securom, or dlc.  They're just bitter people, is all.  Yeah that's it.  They picked DA2 at random.

Uh, no. There's massive animosity against Bioware right now simply for the fact that they changed so much of the original game. And they're with EA as well

And the fact that the CEO of CDprojekt tried to call out Bioware for DA2 doesn't help the matter either. There has always been huge pissing contests on /v/ between Bioware fans and the rest of the "community". I say community lightly, a more proper word would be cess pool.

So, yes, DA2 has been target for a lot of animosity

[TwistedComplex]

Literateminority wrote...


It is because metacritics does not delete low rating user reviews like some other sites do. Censoring all low rating reviews will get the average rating higher. As a crpg DA 2 is a really bad game and does not deserve more than 6 out of 10 period. As a gay dating sim, or a hack and slay, maybe it deserves more. Yet most people did rate it as what it was advertised for; a crpg in the spirit of Baldurs Gate! And based on that 1 out of 10 ratings are actually valid expressions of opinion.

>Name is Literate minority
>Joined today
>gay dating sim


Yeah, you're not trolling

[Insom]

They rushed the game, it's pretty obvious. It's less finished than Kotor 2 was. That game never had 30 quests take place in the same cave.

[Literateminority]

Keele wrote...

Fiery Specter wrote...

MachDelta wrote...

topster88 wrote...

People think the negative posts are because of 4chan?

How delusional are you?

There was a bit of a spat on these boards and on /v/ a few days ago. It culminated in members of both boards (though 4chan is known for its raids) bombing zero-scores on metacritic to drag the average down.
Meh.

I wouldn't put it past the dev's to  give fake reviews to artificially raise the scores.  I think that is more credible.

Then get your head checked.

If you honestly believe that a company will not do anything they can get away with to increase sales, than you are the one who needs to get his head examined. Ratings influence sales and thus manipulating ratings is a logical strategy to increase sales. It even has a name, it is called "guerrilla marketing". There are even companies who are specialized in doing presidency that, namely infiltrating forums and the like with people claiming to be user.

Modifié par Literateminority, 12 mars 2011 - 05:23 .

[Fiery Specter]

Keele wrote...

Fiery Specter wrote...

MachDelta wrote...

topster88 wrote...

People think the negative posts are because of 4chan?

How delusional are you?

There was a bit of a spat on these boards and on /v/ a few days ago. It culminated in members of both boards (though 4chan is known for its raids) bombing zero-scores on metacritic to drag the average down.
Meh.

I wouldn't put it past the dev's to  give fake reviews to artificially raise the scores.  I think that is more credible.

Then get your head checked.

Are you really are naive enough to think it's outside the realm of possibility?  Bioware could conceivably see real world monetary benefits from having their employees go there and post positive reviews.  Can the same be said for random people supposedly giving fake bad reviews?

[Aurgelmir]

Regarding the user reviews, gamespot removed a bunch of low ranking user reviews. Hardly an unbiased counter balance.

I feel sorry for Bioware for being put in a position where it has to put out such a game. Taking away content and calling it a feature just to reach a deadline.

No Companion armour because it gives the characters a more personalised feel = Not enough time to add the armour.

The eye is drawn to the action so there is no point in making overly large enviroment = recycle levels

Characters get their own homes= can only talk to the characters in their homes, saves on dialogue

Multiple endings = only having to write two, with slightly different epilogues

Set in one city, to focus the story = Set in one city, to focus the one level designer they hired to do the job.

The conversation wheel = linear story telling, its so much quicker to write.

From what I've seen the game is a series of fetch and carry sidequests that advance the main plot, they didn't even have time to name the items, instead they just called them 'belt' and 'amulet'. This was rushed and I feel bad that Bioware has been reduced to this by EA.

Modifié par Aurgelmir, 12 mars 2011 - 05:23 .

[Keele]

Literateminority wrote...

Keele wrote...

Fiery Specter wrote...

MachDelta wrote...

topster88 wrote...

People think the negative posts are because of 4chan?

How delusional are you?

There was a bit of a spat on these boards and on /v/ a few days ago. It culminated in members of both boards (though 4chan is known for its raids) bombing zero-scores on metacritic to drag the average down.
Meh.

I wouldn't put it past the dev's to  give fake reviews to artificially raise the scores.  I think that is more credible.

Then get your head checked.

If you honestly believe that a company will not do anything they can get away with to increase sales, than you are the one who needs to get his head examined. Ratings influence sales and thus manipulating ratings is a logical strategy to increase sales. It even has a name, it is called "guerrilla marketing". Their are even companies who are specialized in doing presidency that, namely spaming forums and the like with people claiming to be user. They are here, they are on amazon.com, you find them everywhere.

What do you think would happen if either BioWare or said reviewer got caught?

[Stuffy38]

The whole point of a forum is discussion - good, bad or indifferent. Once you start kicking people off for disagreeing with your point it sort of loses relevance.

[Fiery Specter]

Keele wrote...

Literateminority wrote...

Keele wrote...

Fiery Specter wrote...

MachDelta wrote...

topster88 wrote...

People think the negative posts are because of 4chan?

How delusional are you?

There was a bit of a spat on these boards and on /v/ a few days ago. It culminated in members of both boards (though 4chan is known for its raids) bombing zero-scores on metacritic to drag the average down.
Meh.

I wouldn't put it past the dev's to  give fake reviews to artificially raise the scores.  I think that is more credible.

Then get your head checked.

If you honestly believe that a company will not do anything they can get away with to increase sales, than you are the one who needs to get his head examined. Ratings influence sales and thus manipulating ratings is a logical strategy to increase sales. It even has a name, it is called "guerrilla marketing". Their are even companies who are specialized in doing presidency that, namely spaming forums and the like with people claiming to be user. They are here, they are on amazon.com, you find them everywhere.

What do you think would happen if either BioWare or said reviewer got caught?

Nothing, except lose credibility as a game developer, which seems to have pretty much happened.

[Literateminority]

Keele wrote...

Literateminority wrote...

Keele wrote...

Fiery Specter wrote...

MachDelta wrote...

topster88 wrote...

People think the negative posts are because of 4chan?

How delusional are you?

There was a bit of a spat on these boards and on /v/ a few days ago. It culminated in members of both boards (though 4chan is known for its raids) bombing zero-scores on metacritic to drag the average down.
Meh.

I wouldn't put it past the dev's to  give fake reviews to artificially raise the scores.  I think that is more credible.

Then get your head checked.

If you honestly believe that a company will not do anything they can get away with to increase sales, than you are the one who needs to get his head examined. Ratings influence sales and thus manipulating ratings is a logical strategy to increase sales. It even has a name, it is called "guerrilla marketing". Their are even companies who are specialized in doing presidency that, namely spaming forums and the like with people claiming to be user. They are here, they are on amazon.com, you find them everywhere.

What do you think would happen if either BioWare or said reviewer got caught?

They get some bad PR, nothing major. Many puplisher have already being cought doung presisly that. The publisher of Two Worlds just recently I believe.

[TwistedComplex]

Fiery Specter wrote...
Nothing, except lose credibility as a game developer, which seems to have pretty much happened.

Oh, please. You need to visit other forums if you think THIS outrage is bad

I've never seen Blizzard put out a patch for WoW without a massive s***storm closely following

Wanna know why? Cause millions play it, and if you ****** off even .1% of it's fanbase, you ****** off thousands, and they ALL come to the forums to whine

That's EXACTLY what's happening here

Modifié par TwistedComplex, 12 mars 2011 - 05:31 .