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[RyuStrife]

Mria wrote...

keep in mind that even though morrigan did not went to bed with either the warden alistair or lothering she still will have a baby even if we didnt do that devil girl her baby will still play a greater role in the upcoming expansion DLC or whatever Bioware is planning for the game.

I wouldn't mind... I look forward to a POSSIBLE warden comeback for a few moments ya know? Just for a Vader and Luke Skywalker rip off. That would make my day.

[ISnowdropI]

Just something else if this hasn't already been mentioned before; it's a lot easier, I find, to get Sandal to say that once you've finished the game, load the post-battle save and after a few clicks he should say it.

[stobie]

We also came up with the Flemeth = fen-harel idea. Or something like that. If 'he' is an old god, it would seem likely to involve Morrigan's baby, which was referred to as 'he.' That surprised me, because I had assumed it would eventually be a playable character, so giving the baby a gender seemed odd. The baby's development seems to coincide with this timeline, though. He should be coming of age just as this mage war takes shape.

[Cavalier753]

He = old god kid.
Flemeth = Fen'harel the Dread Wolf.
Everyone will be just like they were = dwarves and elves get magic again.
Skies will open wide = big **** will go down.
Archdemons = elven creators/gods
Nexus Golem, "the stone resides beneath Orlais" = super golem or hidden thaig
Orlais = setting for DA3
Sandal = an elven god in hiding, or an agent of the Maker
The Warden and Hawke = keys to the plot.

At least that's what I think. Personally, I just wanna roflstomp some darkspawn.

[ISnowdropI]

Also, isn't it possible that it was simply referring to Anders and the destruction of the Chantry?

[Mria]

quintus...

the dread wolf might be the forest spirit from the first game if it was flemeth they would say ¨by asha'belenar" (or something like that dk how to write her name this way).

Elves and dwarf related to magic is something unlikely since elves already have magic and dwarf are by nature immue to lyrium and so they dont develop magic.
What can happen is that they might retake what they once lost: the deep roads and the elves former capital (or whatever they might had lost)

Archdemons are very unlikely that they were the creators of elves even less dwarfs and yet remains to be seen if their fate ended with morrigans child or not.

never heard of nexus golems:dk if that was from the da:o with the dlc companion golem or if that means that demon golems from DA2 but still its kinda unlikely they will play any big role in the future...more likely the "corrupt lyrium'' wich i call the red lyrium from DA2.

Orlais is something that im looking forward to see as well

Sandal: he is pretty normal the only thing that makes him special is that he MIGHT have lyrium infused in his blood due to his long period with the minerla and the prophecy he spoke of is highly related to the old woman he spoke of wich might be flemeth appering in his dreams or making him a visit to his room during his sleep.

i personaly still doubt that hawk and the warden will ever meet personaly since bioware is not known to do such things but i hope they can somehow meet in the end at least.

by the way im just sending this to try to clarefy some things related to the game plot and history so u can understand some of things that the game has showed this far.

if you want to argue about something else please let me know i might have something else i can share with you

[Mria]

replying to RyuStrife

yes i do hope that we can might find the warden we made in the first game and see what happend to him and morrigan specialy because i choose to follow morrigan trough the mirror (ill be pretty dam old as well) and one thing that got me wondering is if we still going to play with hawke or morrigan's child cause alot of things are about to change in the next game

[Sol SikEyes]

 Haven't read every post, but what about the interaction between Maric and Flemeth in "The Stolen Throne", and its implications on the story?  We still dont know what she asked of him in return for her help.  Also, what about Luthias Dwarfson?  When the ash warrior tells you the story in Ostagar, after falling in love with Scea, "During a feast between the tribal leaders of the Alamarri and the Avvar, the beautiful and powerful Avvar chieftain, Morrighan'nan, became enamored with Luthias and seduced him"?  That had to be Flemeth, or Morrigan right?  So is their a child from Luthias and Flemeth or morrigan?  Finally, what about the ending to DLC Legacy?  Was the golden city real? Is Corypheus delusional, or was he really one of the tevinter magisters that entered and corrupted the Golden City? Is sandal a son of Flemeth and a grey warden dwarf? ughhh....sooo many questions!

Modifié par Sol SikEyes, 16 septembre 2011 - 04:12 .

[Jedi Master of Orion]

From listening to the words of Sandal's prophecy, my first guess would be that Fen'Harel is the one that "rises". He seems like the type of being who might bring magic back to the world, or possibly may have the ability to. I had considered maybe that would mean everyone gets magical powers but I kind of doubt Bioware would make that radical a change to the setting, so maybe it will just significantly increase the frequency of it appearing in mortals, especially among elves and dwarves.

[whykikyouwhy]

*walks through some dust and cobwebs*

*coughs*

*drops off some trinkets*

Link!

Another link!!

*leaves*

[Dragoonlordz]

greengoron89 wrote...
Or I could just be completely full of **** - that explanation is just as good as any, I suppose.

Any explanation which gets rid of chantry is good enough for me.

[KaneShepard]

To those who say that the Tevinter Magi never entered the Black City, they did. This is confirmed in the Legacy DLC When you actually meet one of the Tevinter Magistrates who entered the Black City.

And no, Sandal is not a "part" of Flemeth, that is a ridiculous assumption. Also, Sandal isn't referring to the Old God Baby, as if he was and they were to base a game on it, then those who never performed the Dark Ritual with Morrigan wouldn't even be able to play the game.

In short, I think this "prophecy" is about the Old God Baby, but will only play a small, tiny, little role in the next game. For instance - Those who performed the Dark Ritual will receive an extra quest and/or meet the Old God Baby, and those who didn't won't.

[KaneShepard]

Also, the Warden from Origins will NOT be a companion; Everyone has a different personality for him/her, everyone has a different Origin Story, everyone has a different idea of who the Warden was. So by making him a companion, you would need 18 different possible personalities, interactions, reactions, etcetera, basically 18 different scripts based on save imports, and it would disappoint people who had a certain idea of the Warden in their heads.

[KaneShepard]

Same thing goes for Hawke

[Gervaise]

Another theory about the "He" who rises. There are still two old gods imprisoned somewhere. The next in line if they go in order of the codexes is the God of Mysteries, which I imagine would include magic. If he were to be released without being corrupted, then it is possible that all manner of magic might be released which he was prevented from doing when just slumbering.

Otherwise my guess is whoever or whatever is the Maker since the Chant of Light describes magic as a gift of the Maker, contrary to Chantry propaganda, so it makes sense that if the Maker finally decided to take an active role in events again, magic might be restored as he intended it to be, but that seems too like an end of the world type scenario.

Alternative theory, he was actually referring to Corypheus and the full effects of his rising from his prison have yet to be fully felt.

Oh and just because modern dwarves don't do magic, that doesn't mean ancient ones didn't. Like Varric said, the memories had no record of the ancient thaig, so who knows what abilities its former inhabitants might have had. The lyrium idol would suggest they had a great reverence for magic and the creature it was meant to represent - does anyone else think it looks like a stylised version of Flemeth?

[KaneShepard]

"... so it makes sense that if the Maker finally decided to take an active role in events again..."
The Maker abandoned the world, but he still looks out for it. However, He is unlikely to return.

"Corypheus"
Corypheus is dead.

"Oh and just because modern dwarves don't do magic, that doesn't mean ancient ones didn't. Like Varric said, the memories had no record of the ancient thaig, so who knows what abilities its former inhabitants might have had. The lyrium idol would suggest they had a great reverence for magic and the creature it was meant to represent"
Dwarves can't do magic, ancient or modern. And how does the lyrium idol suggest that? The lyrium idol is just an idol. It's not some magical mysterious godlike weapon, or anything. The only reason they made it out of lyrium and not another substance is because dwarves are attracted to lyrium.

"... does anyone else think it looks like a stylised version of Flemeth?"
Flemeth isn't THAT old. It's speculated that she was born shortly after the fall of the Tevinter in Ferelden, and that thaig would be dated years before that.