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[lx_theo]

He = old god spirit in human form, like the demon baby of Morrigan's?

[Medhia Nox]

Esbatty - we've seen Sandal rip the stuffing out of endless Darkspawn (okay, we've seen the aftermath).

We know he's the best enchanter in Thedas (simply because nobody better has been introduced).

He'll be fine - don't you worry.

[The Minority]

I just heard it, gave me freakin goosebumps. Of course the one time Bodahn notices that Sandal is more than he seems, he just ignores it.

[jeckaldied]

I don't think "He' Has anything to do with OGB, because bioware has time and again said OGB is not canon, their is no canon, and unlike Anders being alive no matter what, Gaider has said at least once that OGB doesn't exist if you don't spawn him.

[Esbatty]

Medhia Nox wrote...

Esbatty - we've seen Sandal rip the stuffing out of endless Darkspawn (okay, we've seen the aftermath).

We know he's the best enchanter in Thedas (simply because nobody better has been introduced).

He'll be fine - don't you worry.

*bawls*

No, but - but, he needs to be cared for. *watering eyes*

[Valus]

Brockololly wrote...

 Old God Baby returning, anyone?

Yeah, I got that line too. Problem is I rejected the dark ritual. So I am thinking no. Besides its been said tons of times that the OGB isn't cannon.

[AcidRelic]

At least we know where the next DA game is held. Orlais (or was it Antiva?), Bodan said that they were heading there after everything was finished up in Kirkwall, as the queen has intrest in Sandal

[nubbers666]

Osena109 wrote...

 I still think  Sandal is a Old god or something he can use magic when talking about the oger not enchantment lol

i think hes just biowares idea of a bad joke lmao:pinched:

[Findog]

Nimander wrote...

Look at elven mythology.

The Wolf bound the 8 gods in Heaven and the Abyss. There are 7 Archdemons, and Sandal was found wandering the depths by his father. I personally think he's the 8th Elven god, bound only partially and thus wasn't able to be corrupted by whatever corrupted the Archdemons (I don't really hold with the whole 'The Maker made them to punish the Tevinter' thing, that is rather convenient and reads like propoganda by a fledgeling Chantry.)

Another idea I had, though, was that he was from the Thaig we found there. It was 'different' with no Paragons or such. I think it could be the original dwarven Thaig/homeland/whatever, and whatever caused the corruption of the idol led to dwarves having no magic, and he's the last dwarf with magical potential. For now.

As for who 'he' is, perhaps the Maker? I don't know.

I was thinking the same thing. I also think Flemeth is The Wolf. She can turn into a Dragon and seems to be the only connection to all this crazyness right now. Plus shes pullin the midnight creeper on sandals too. And "he" I think has to be the god baby. Though it could be the maker. But Bioware can say whatever they want. But with the whole witch hunt DLC... yeah its gonna come in some how or that whole DLC was pointless. Come on you bound a soul of a god or power of a god into a child and its not gonna relate to the story some how? If they dont then Bioware has lost their minds. I just want some damn closure! Dragon Age 2 just made it worse too.

[AcidRelic]

Not Old god or Maker route, but something IS up with Sandal, I mean you give him a powerfull piece of pure crazy making lyrium and he can turn it into an enchantment. Thats just not a Savant something more is going on though.

[packardbell]

Holy crap thought this was a joke thread. That was quite eery.. it's like he feigns retardation.

[Medhia Nox]

I think the Maker is trapped in Sandal. (that is just an off the wall guess)

I'm replaying Origins right now - I'm going to try to piece some stuff together. As I said, the Tevinter statue states clearly (she's was a Tevinter prophet btw) that: "And thus shall I endure 'til the Maker returns to light their fires again."

The Maker will return... Leliana is right, she's "Joan of Arc" sent by the Maker on a Holy Crusade against evil.

[DarthSliver]

Should i even try to get that line, sounds creepy from the way i was reading it lol

[Clonedzero]

did you guys get that thing where Sandel was talking about a scary old lady whispering to him when he was in bed? anyone have any theories on that?

i was thinking maybe it's flemeth, she's a scary old lady, has the ability to get in and out of the house with no one noticing and with her body snatching ways i could see her being very interested in sandals unique abilities.

[kea_spicy]

"One day the magic will come back. all of it. Everyone will be just like they were. The shadows will part and the skies will open wide. When he rises, everyone will see" [/b]

It scared the ****** out of me when he started saying that. Sandal's voice got all quiet and raspy. Then it's basically:
Bodahn: Where did *that* come from?
Sandal: ... Enchantment?
Bodahn: That's better.

XD

[Beren082]

I've said it before. The OGB doesn't have to come from Morrigan. Was the Architect not trying to do this very thing? Was Flemeth? There are a variety of ways for an old god to be freed and bound to a human form, given a clean slate to develop into something new.

The warden primes the fuse by defeating the blight and opening the way. The champion of Kirkwall lights it by throwing the Chantry across Thedas into Chaos. And finally, the Old God in mortal form explodes unto the world, shaking it to it's very core. How is this not a great path for the story to take?

[Beren082]

Why do my comments always end the conversation? I never get to hear what other people think of my hypothesis.

[Esbatty]

Well if you do not do the Dark Ritual then no OGB. If you kill the Architect, well he is dead. So the only real "He" left to rise up... is the Dread Wolf/trickster god since he is the only one not imprisoned and free to roam Thedas.

So far Sandal has shown up to support The Warden and The Champion. Warden ended the Blight, and the Champion sunders the Chantry. Thats alot of Chaos spread about and Fen'riel seems to thrive on it. I'm considering that Sandal just might be the Dread Wolf in disguise.

[Alanosborn1991]

Hahah that was an excellent analysis Beren

[JJDrakken]

Sandal is the maker in flesh form!

JJ

[Fishy]

No one talk about the Important thing...What happenned to Allistair face?There's a lot of little thing that annoy me ..  Don't want to make a thread though

Modifié par Suprez30, 12 mars 2011 - 08:50 .

[Beren082]

Esbatty wrote...

Well if you do not do the Dark Ritual then no OGB. If you kill the Architect, well he is dead. So the only real "He" left to rise up... is the Dread Wolf/trickster god since he is the only one not imprisoned and free to roam Thedas..

Again, Flemeth is still in full effect, and we learn that this is her main goal as well.

The Architect was hard at work long before he met the Warden, why couldn't he have set this one goal in motion before then (would take many years for a child to develop. he would likely keep him in a safe place. like say, an eluvian?).

And still, there are the unknown unknowns, all the things that could result in a freed old god that no one has considered, including this Wolf being (though Flemeth herself would seem to fill that roll rather well).

There is more then one rout, and always at least one opprotunity. The archdaemon of this last blight doesn't necessarily have to be the one that's freed.

If I were Bioware, I wouldn't be able to pass up such an opprotunity to justify an insanely badass character. Hell, an old god could concieveably be unrestricted by "classes" and be a mighty warrior, a skillful rogue, and a powerful mage all in one. And imagine the impact of the decisions that such a character would have to make. it would be a grand culmination of the events of all three games.

[HolyJellyfish]

Brockololly wrote...

When you've got Sandal at Hawke's estate, keep clicking on him. Like over and over again.

Eventually he busts out the big boy vocabulary and sounds like he prophesizes the "change" that Morrigan mentions in Witch Hunt and Flemeth in DA2. Old God Baby returning, anyone?

"One day the magic will come back. all of it. Everyone will be just like they were. The shadows will part and the skies will open wide. When he rises, everyone will see"

When he rises? The Maker? Old god? Interesting.

This quote makes me wonder if the Fade and the real world (Thedas) are actually supposed to exist as one realm, but were forcefully separated. Hence the tears and rifts into the fade, etc. And the Mirrors were an attempt by non-mages to reconvine with the Fade - since, perhaps, everyone once was a mage. But then something horrible happened, which may have spawned the Darkspawn.

Its possible the Tevinters may have had nothing to do with it. It could have been the Arlathans, hence why the Tevinter imperium took it upon themselves to enslave and punish them. Who knows?