Your Worst Tactical Blunder
#1
Posté 12 mars 2011 - 03:49
#2
Posté 12 mars 2011 - 04:06
My worst was Zaeed's LM going the renegade route. I was just not connecting destroying the fuel tanks to stop the respawn.
So as a soldier, I would activate the YMIR with my sniper rifle, blast away the mooks, defeat the mech and then storm to that door at the end of the room, getting shredded by the respawning mooks most of the time.
But that ignorance helped me get better : )
#3
Posté 12 mars 2011 - 06:23
Probably Mass Effect 1, the first time I did UNC: Luna.
Finished the first base like 'oh, this will be simple'.
Walk into second base to do the same.
Catch rocket in chest.
Weep gently.
#4
Posté 12 mars 2011 - 06:53
That was do-able on Insanity with Immunity and funneling the drones through the first corridor before the main room in the third base, but the Rocket Drones were so, so frustrating.
#5
Posté 12 mars 2011 - 07:40
Every single time there are Flamethrower dudes in ME2 and I Charge in not realizing this. Sometimes I can spring a little luck and get out alive, others not so much. You would think by now I would be a tad more cautious but happens every bloody file. I just never expect them!
#6
Posté 12 mars 2011 - 07:43
#7
Posté 12 mars 2011 - 07:59
ADLegend21 wrote...
Suicide mission, charged during biotic bubble.....nuff said.
I kneel before a superior man.
You, sir, are my hero.
#8
Posté 12 mars 2011 - 08:22
ADLegend21 wrote...
Suicide mission, charged during biotic bubble.....nuff said.
You have no idea how many times I have thought, "I wonder what would happen if I did this," despite knowing exactly what would happen. >.>
Modifié par Bourne Endeavor, 12 mars 2011 - 08:23 .
#9
Posté 12 mars 2011 - 12:51
Modifié par Captain Crash, 12 mars 2011 - 12:51 .
#10
Posté 12 mars 2011 - 01:20
Otherwise I've forgotten to grab cover and gotten shot up before.
#11
Posté 12 mars 2011 - 02:59
2. Dismissing the Engineer class for a long time.
3. Pausing the game during combat.
4. Not trying Barrier on my Adept for a while.
Oh, and Charging a Praetorian didn't work out well either.
#12
Posté 12 mars 2011 - 03:03
#13
Posté 12 mars 2011 - 03:16
#14
Posté 12 mars 2011 - 03:35
#15
Posté 12 mars 2011 - 04:22
You MUST be kidding me. I had no idea that that was how it worked!Praetor Shepard wrote...
I did the same thing there. I died often from those darn drones. Then I would take the left side with the Colossus fight for even more frustrating respawns : )
My worst was Zaeed's LM going the renegade route. I was just not connecting destroying the fuel tanks to stop the respawn.
So as a soldier, I would activate the YMIR with my sniper rifle, blast away the mooks, defeat the mech and then storm to that door at the end of the room, getting shredded by the respawning mooks most of the time.
But that ignorance helped me get better : )
I have struggled through that section SO MANY TIMES with Pyros constantly stalking me while I run away from the YMIR. Argh!
Modifié par Sidesalad, 12 mars 2011 - 04:23 .
#16
Posté 12 mars 2011 - 11:23
Most of the time it is in trying some off the wall idea, and more often than not failing for some time until I find a rhythm or dismiss the idea. Charging using the predator for one (that one failed); playing adept and substituting singularity and warp for flashbang and shockwave (don't know what I was thinking at the time). At least widow shotgun worked out ok.
Then there's the sick feeling of playing a mission segment and "missing" on everything. Shooting, wrong powers on wrong defences...
Sorry, I can't give a specific situation - I just can't pick one out!
#17
Posté 13 mars 2011 - 08:45
LotSB. Opening Firefight on Azure. I'm a shotgun engineer.
The transports are landing. I take out a group of them. I try to anticipate where the next one is landing so I can flank the enemies. The firing stops- the next wave is going to begin. I'm about to make a break for it aaaand...
...the transport lands on me. (lol)
#18
Posté 13 mars 2011 - 09:55
Modifié par mi55ter, 15 mars 2011 - 08:39 .
#19
Posté 13 mars 2011 - 10:41
I also thought that I could kill all of the mercs before I disabled the shield and kill Warden Kuril at Jack's recruit mission. I spent forever killing them until I died. Took me many, many tries before I decided to just kill the Warden.
#20
Posté 14 mars 2011 - 12:17
Should've got the shotgun, I end up in a lot of situations where it would be useful.
#21
Posté 14 mars 2011 - 06:40
The bad thing is I had played through the battle a lot and this was the first time I was on the oppossite end of the level when that event triggered.
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Other than the above a famous one was I used an Infiltrator to get somewhere I shouldn't via cloak. I finished off a pair of YMIR mechs and thought the level was over. I didn't realize I was standing next to a door that spawned a bunch of guys [some Elite level].
Modifié par Alamar2078, 14 mars 2011 - 06:44 .
#22
Posté 14 mars 2011 - 09:44
Captain Crash wrote...
Using the Cane for the first time. Im sure nearly everyone made a really bad tactical blunder using that
Yeah. A tactical NUCLEAR blunder at that...
#23
Posté 14 mars 2011 - 10:25
jamesp81 wrote...
Captain Crash wrote...
Using the Cane for the first time. Im sure nearly everyone made a really bad tactical blunder using that
Yeah. A tactical NUCLEAR blunder at that...
I did that the very first time I tried using that thing too.
And getting a bit nitpicky, but I thought I'd share something from my studies that I keep coming across: Tactical vs. Strategic.
So I'd argue that using the Cain in such a manner is a strategic blunder, since one would have to restart from the last save or restart the mission with a new loadout. Like I said, nitpicky but it seemed relate-able enough to share.
And food for thought, here are a few interesting links on Tactical vs. Strategic (go Sun-Tzu!):
All men can see these tactics whereby I conquer, but what none can see is the strategy out of which victory is evolved. Sun Tzu
www.diffen.com/difference/Strategy_vs_Tactic
www.hainescentre.com/systems-thinking/strategic-vs-tactical.html
www.alanemrich.com/PGD/PGD_Strategy.htm
#24
Posté 14 mars 2011 - 10:38
Praetor Shepard wrote...
I did that the very first time I tried using that thing too.
And getting a bit nitpicky, but I thought I'd share something from my studies that I keep coming across: Tactical vs. Strategic.
So I'd argue that using the Cain in such a manner is a strategic blunder, since one would have to restart from the last save or restart the mission with a new loadout. Like I said, nitpicky but it seemed relate-able enough to share.
And food for thought, here are a few interesting links on Tactical vs. Strategic (go Sun-Tzu!):
All men can see these tactics whereby I conquer, but what none can see is the strategy out of which victory is evolved. Sun Tzu
www.diffen.com/difference/Strategy_vs_Tactic
www.hainescentre.com/systems-thinking/strategic-vs-tactical.html
www.alanemrich.com/PGD/PGD_Strategy.htm
According to Sun Tzu "to subdue the enemy without a fight is the supreme excellence" which can be interpreted - a proper strategy can make tactics pretty much redundant
The Cain example is like using a tactical nuke to take out a bank robber in the middle of a city. Although I consider weapon choice (in the field) tactical, but the decision to wipe out everything in the vicinity will have strategic consequences.
#25
Posté 14 mars 2011 - 11:00
Bozorgmehr wrote...
According to Sun Tzu "to subdue the enemy without a fight is the supreme excellence" which can be interpreted - a proper strategy can make tactics pretty much redundant
The Cain example is like using a tactical nuke to take out a bank robber in the middle of a city. Although I consider weapon choice (in the field) tactical, but the decision to wipe out everything in the vicinity will have strategic consequences.
I figure that subduing an enemy without a fight in the ME universe happens with successful Paragon/Renegade options and Interrupts. Facing Saren down and having him redeem himself comes to mind from ME1 along with a few others. And also kinda like the STG units that Kirrahe names in his speech, the Silent Step and Ever Alert. Those wily salarians.
And true about tactics in general becoming redundant. Tactics often need to be fluid, but Sun Tzu also said: "Strategy without tactics is the slowest route to victory. Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat."





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