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Did anyone else kill Anders?


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#326
ShadyKat

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Yes I did. I hated doing it, but he had to pay for what he did.

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Sorry if this was answered earlier - if I hadn't done the Justice quest (help Anders sneak in the Chantry), would he still blow it up during the Last Straw quest? And would I still have to choose between him and Sebastian?

If not, I'd be rather annoyed because I did the justice quest at beginning of Act 3, well 8 hours before starting the Last Straw, too long for me to go back before I did it and replay the rest of the game. Yes, I know it's "role playing" and "no one knows the future" and all that, but dammit this is a GAME I shouldn't be penalized later for DOING A QUEST which there was no other way to do (e.g. find out what Anders is up to and discourage him, or whatever).

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jfp2004

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Yeah.

I had to think about it for awhile though. Killing him is the easy way out, and like Anders said himself, it'll make his actions live on all that much more. On the other hand, I just couldn't justify letting him walk away from that without consequences. While forcing him to live in and deal with the mess he's created first hand, causing that much loss of innocent life just doesn't sit well with me (and how I was playing Hawke at least), so I ultimately chose to kill him.

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Medhia Nox

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Everyone who knows Ander's did it is dead (except the companions) - and none of them supported him.

So - I killed him. He killed the Holy Mother, a character I loved and respected and who didn't deserve to be part of a terrorist attack. I did it because I didn't want him to become the figurehead of the free mages.

I did it because my mage romanced him - he betrayed my character - and I decided that it was a final exorcism of my character's "demon". My PC's love for Ander's blinded him to the truth - he could have stopped Anders if he hadn't been so blind. So, my Champion killed him. Anyway - that was the "storyline" behind my decision.

#330
Sesshomaru47

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Yes. Even though I sided with the mages. I'll kill him again too, stupid twerp.

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Veronica Ward

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TelvanniWarlord wrote...

Veronica Ward wrote...

tausra wrote...

Veronica Ward wrote...

vigna wrote...

I sided with the Mages, but I still killed him. He just wasn't the same without ser pounce a lot.

Come on, even if you thought the mother lady was too neutral and did not act enough she didn't deserve to die like that. Justice is one thing, but murder is another.


You dole out death from the start of this game to the very end. Your Hawke's hands are soaked in blood. Calling him out for being a murderer is silly.


Hawke didn't kill a bunch of innocent people.


Neither did Anders. :whistle:


Yes he did.


Belonging to an organization that takes children from thier parents, arbitrarily lobotomizes people, calls for culling of cities and cultures because they have differnet beliefs than your own does not say innocent to me. What compounds the matter further is that the Grand Cleric had many opprotunities to try to stop or at the very least speak out against the blatant abuse of power. She did nothing.

She also stood by while one of her underlings fanned the fire of the quinari conflict. She was not innocent, at best she was incometant.  Icompetance that lead to the death and misery of many of the people she claimed to care for, just clearly not enough to risk her job for.

If you are a cook for an evil organization and get killed in an attack against said organization. . . welp dems the breaks.

It didn't seem to me that it was the way Anders wanted things to go but there are only so many "Your people are suffering and I could say something, but lets see if the Maker makes it all nice :wub:" some one can take before they decide drastic action is the only action. He was right, there is not always a  peaceful solution, especially when the other side is not playing the peace card.

Honestly, there should have been an option to knife Sebastian, when he threatens to amass an army to burn the city to the ground.

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Killed him. Have to say that was an event in the story that I didn't see coming (even though I probably should have from a mile away). Very "Kingdom Come" moment there, absolutely loved it. Even though my Hawke sided with the Mages throughout the majority of the storyline that moment just shifted everything and compelled my Hawke join the Rite of Annulment as well. Very powerful storytelling.

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Veronica Ward wrote...
Belonging to an organization that takes children from thier parents, arbitrarily lobotomizes people, calls for culling of cities and cultures because they have differnet beliefs than your own does not say innocent to me. What compounds the matter further is that the Grand Cleric had many opprotunities to try to stop or at the very least speak out against the blatant abuse of power. She did nothing.

She also stood by while one of her underlings fanned the fire of the quinari conflict. She was not innocent, at best she was incometant.  Icompetance that lead to the death and misery of many of the people she claimed to care for, just clearly not enough to risk her job for.

If you are a cook for an evil organization and get killed in an attack against said organization. . . welp dems the breaks.

It didn't seem to me that it was the way Anders wanted things to go but there are only so many "Your people are suffering and I could say something, but lets see if the Maker makes it all nice :wub:" some one can take before they decide drastic action is the only action. He was right, there is not always a  peaceful solution, especially when the other side is not playing the peace card.

Honestly, there should have been an option to knife Sebastian, when he threatens to amass an army to burn the city to the ground.


Anders blew up a building in a populated area.

Innocent people were killed, people that had nothing to do with mages, templars, or the chantry.

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mrsph wrote...

Anders blew up a building in a populated area.

Innocent people were killed, people that had nothing to do with mages, templars, or the chantry.


That's what freedom fighters do ;)

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Tainan7509

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I was angry when he blow up the Chantry. So Yes, i kill him without a second thought. He just help to sign up a death warranty for every mages in the world and he think he did the right thing. What a di*k move.

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Pileyourbodies

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I gave anders the justice any terrorist deserves.

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KnightofPhoenix

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I'd be interested to see the numbers of casualties from the explosion. And what kind of casualties. Not too relevant (it's the symbolism that matters, not the death toll as such), but it would be interesting. In the cutscene, we see the fire spread to several nearby buildings.

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DanielleTHM

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I couldn't kill Anders. The way he went about it was wrong, but it was for the right reasons. I didn't condone his actions, but he didn't either, he KNEW it was wrong, but he didn't see another way. Hell even my Hawke asked the Grand Cleric to rein in her rabid dog, but she declined to do so.

It brought me to think, "Which is worse, to do evil, or to sit back and let evil happen?"

Kudos to Bioware for the shades of gray, it allows personal interpretation and emotional investment.

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skippy1776

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sided with the mages, by the end of the game regretted that choice, honestly every one's a fricken blood mage. So now i am playing a mage going to side with the templars even though they horribly abuse their power...

#340
Tainan7509

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You know.. if you side with mages and kill Anders, you are actually doing a favor for him. (just my opinion)

#341
Kingofdragoons

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Yeah, I killed him. He deserved it after what he did though... I just cant imagine someone actually justifying that in their own head. Just disgusting.

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TexasToast712

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I have noticed how alot of the Warrior/Rogue Hawkes that sided with the mages did it simply because Bethany was in the Circle. I found out you can still side with the Templars AND save your sister Bethany if she is in the Circle. Its what I did and it is more dramatic to find out that Orsino was friends with Quentin. He admits it when you confront him with the Templars.

Modifié par TexasToast712, 16 mars 2011 - 04:49 .


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I didn't. Killing him on the spot may feel good but it doesn't really do anything to mitigate the effect of what he did. The idea was, he turns himself in, big trial, everyone gets to vent, and then he gets executed, stuffed in Aeonar, whatever. Aveline told him he was going to turn himself in or else so hopefully that'll be what happens if we opted to take him with us (but not run off with him).

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Killed Anders and will even with my mage character when she gets to that point. There is no justification for his action, along with killing the one person of power that showed any showing of intelligence in the whole borked up situation.

Sided with the Templars, hard not to after going though so many blood mages/demons on the way to this point. Saved Bethany as well.

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Rogue Unit

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Gave him a medal.

Way to kick up a ****storm, Anders.

Take notes.

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damn, second playthrough finished yesterday... and I offed him again.
He is such a detriment to his own cause that I apparently can't act any other way...
Is there still hope for me ? :P

#347
kyles3

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Played a mage, sided with mages, killed Anders without hesitation. If only eliminating terrorists could be so simple in real life.

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I killed him. He betrayed me, murdered a lot of innocent people, and incited the rebellion of the Circle, which caused the Right of Annulment to be used. I didn't want to gimp my party by killing him, but he deserved it.

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I felt I was forced to, I sided with the mages. I felt sorry for Anders and could understand his motivations, I even agree them. But even though I stood with the mages, and agree with Ander's motivations, what he did was SO WRONG that I felt I had no choice in the matter, I could not in clear conscience let him go after such a crime.

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I wanted to kill him mostly for lying to me, but I remembered that Flemeth had mentioned this when I summoned her at Sundermount, and if you think about it Anders was the only one willing to take the leap. Not to mention that Anders bone head move ended up revealing how deep blood magic had permeated the circle (right up to Orsino). So, while I was devastated to see Sebastian go, I really think he's going to take a while to gain the throne in Starkvale let alone gather an army just to come after Anders. He'll get over it.