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[DaVeO52]

I killed him. What he did was just too close to terrorism for me to forgive. I did almost let him go until Sebastion threatened to leave and come back with an army. I don't like being bullied but I also didn't want to involve Kirkwall in another needless war (I'm so IC). So I made Anders a martyr and happily got my sister back to fight at my side.

[Ryzaki]

Jedi Master of Orion wrote...

I guess, but you were already sent on a mission to kill or stop him. Hawke just fulfilled the original objectives.

 

Actually your mission was to stop him from using the Qunari poison. Hawke kills him for no reason. The guy was no threat and had committed no wrongdoing. 

Hawke did it just to be a douche. 

Heck the response to your party member shaking his/her head is "What? He bothered me." 

[TobiTobsen]

Anders just made two mistakes.

First: He didn't asked: "Do you like music Meredith?"

Second: He didn't played Tchaikovsky's overture through the whole city, while blowing up the chantry.

If he would've done that, I would've spared him. He didn't so he got the instant death murder knife to the back.

Modifié par TobiTobsen, 16 avril 2011 - 11:05 .

[Rifneno]

DaVeO52 wrote...

I killed him. What he did was just too close to terrorism for me to forgive. I did almost let him go until Sebastion threatened to leave and come back with an army. I don't like being bullied but I also didn't want to involve Kirkwall in another needless war (I'm so IC). So I made Anders a martyr and happily got my sister back to fight at my side.

Err... Anders attacking the organization that wronged his people is too close to terrorism, but Sebastian threatening to destroy the entire city because of one man is just bullying?

[Pyro_Monkey]

I considered it, but ended up sparing him. Was anyone else annoyed that Anders just sat there staring off into space for that whole cutscene after blowing up the chantry? seems like he could have shown some more emotions, I was tempted to kill him just for that, he seemed to have been trying to turn himself into a martyr.

[Rifneno]

Pyro_Monkey wrote...

I considered it, but ended up sparing him. Was anyone else annoyed that Anders just sat there staring off into space for that whole cutscene after blowing up the chantry? seems like he could have shown some more emotions, I was tempted to kill him just for that, he seemed to have been trying to turn himself into a martyr.

He was definitely expecting to die.  The "why" on it is kind of up in the air.  In the game he gives that "martyr" bit if you're not romancing him.  But one of the writers had posted at one point that the reason is because he felt that the people in the Chantry also deserved justice and that meant his death.  In other words, he did it fully realizing and accepting that giving up his own life is the right course of action but his life was worth the possibility of mages rising up and fighting for their freedom.  If that's the case, and there is a banter with Isabela supporting it, why did he give the silly martyr line I wonder?  I'd say he was just trying to goad Hawke into doing it, but Hawke had already said he was going to do it so there's no reason...  I don't get it.  =/

[DashRunner92]

Yes, I just had too, plus I'd rather not have Sebestian bring a whole army back. I think having Sebestian made that whole scene a lot better and emotional. Thank God they gave me back Bethany, I had crafted her so perfectly during act one, plus super explosion of level-up points for her

[Ayanko]

I kept him alive, I got a sneaky suspicion he was following orders. And lets face it, even if you kill him he'll just be back in 3 like nothing has happened.

[aaniadyen]

This is one of the points in the game where I wish the game would have let you choose from more than two options. I didn't want to kill him, but seeing as it was between that and letting him off scott-free I had to. Not to mention Sebastian's threat of raising Starkhaven's army to lay seige to Kirkwall. After I realized that the choice was made even more clear. I still wish there was an imprisonment option so he could explain more of why or how he did it and stand trial.

Modifié par aaniadyen, 16 avril 2011 - 04:51 .

[kcman5]

If you let him go and side with the Templars, you will still face him regardless and have no choice but to kill him.

P.S. So kind of makes what Sebastian said, a Moot point ( In regards with returning with an army).

Modifié par kcman5, 16 avril 2011 - 05:14 .

[Ayanko]

Never sided with the templars, what would cousin warden say to hawke if he did such a thing? Plus the way the treated mages like they was scum etc etc.

[LobselVith8]

aaniadyen wrote...

This is one of the points in the game where I wish the game would have let you choose from more than two options. I didn't want to kill him, but seeing as it was between that and letting him off scott-free I had to. Not to mention Sebastian's threat of raising Starkhaven's army to lay seige to Kirkwall. After I realized that the choice was made even more clear. I still wish there was an imprisonment option so he could explain more of why or how he did it and stand trial.

I can't see Sebastian taking over Starkhaven by himself when he had to hire outside help to deal with a few mercenaries.

[Phoensims]

Yes. Although I would have much prefered doing this to Anders:



than to outright kill him.

Modifié par Phoensims, 22 avril 2011 - 06:42 .

[Avesana]

I'm sorry I don't see how anyone could want to kill Anders...now Sebastian is a differnt story. Anders Stuck up fo what he believed in and had the balls to do what he did. I ought right support Anders.

[Kabraxal]

Avesana wrote...

I'm sorry I don't see how anyone could want to kill Anders...now Sebastian is a differnt story. Anders Stuck up fo what he believed in and had the balls to do what he did. I ought right support Anders.

He willfully plants a bomb in a building where there are clearly innocent people in there... not to mention the amount of destruction the explosion causes in a wide radius...

Anders is a murderer and deserves to die.

[TJPags]

Avesana wrote...

I'm sorry I don't see how anyone could want to kill Anders...now Sebastian is a differnt story. Anders Stuck up fo what he believed in and had the balls to do what he did. I ought right support Anders.

I wonder, did every mage throughout Thedas agree with what he did?  Did they all believe in what he did?

Or even every single mage in Kirkwall?

See, my problem with someone who does something like this is that they take the choice out of the hands of those they claim to be acting for.  He acts for freedom for the mages, but takes the freedom of choice out of their hands.

[Rifneno]

TJPags wrote...

Avesana wrote...

I'm sorry I don't see how anyone could want to kill Anders...now Sebastian is a differnt story. Anders Stuck up fo what he believed in and had the balls to do what he did. I ought right support Anders.

I wonder, did every mage throughout Thedas agree with what he did?  Did they all believe in what he did?

Or even every single mage in Kirkwall?

See, my problem with someone who does something like this is that they take the choice out of the hands of those they claim to be acting for.  He acts for freedom for the mages, but takes the freedom of choice out of their hands.

I suppose then, Lincoln was a douche because he didn't have consent from every slave.

Plaintiff gave a brief yet perfect description in another thread that I agree with wholeheartedly.  "Dude, you blew up the Chantry?!  Highfive!"

[TJPags]

Rifneno wrote...

TJPags wrote...

Avesana wrote...

I'm sorry I don't see how anyone could want to kill Anders...now Sebastian is a differnt story. Anders Stuck up fo what he believed in and had the balls to do what he did. I ought right support Anders.

I wonder, did every mage throughout Thedas agree with what he did?  Did they all believe in what he did?

Or even every single mage in Kirkwall?

See, my problem with someone who does something like this is that they take the choice out of the hands of those they claim to be acting for.  He acts for freedom for the mages, but takes the freedom of choice out of their hands.

I suppose then, Lincoln was a douche because he didn't have consent from every slave.

Plaintiff gave a brief yet perfect description in another thread that I agree with wholeheartedly.  "Dude, you blew up the Chantry?!  Highfive!"

Back to the "mages are slaves" thing?  I hope that's not where you intended to go.

Lincoln and Anders, though - wow.  The elected leader of a nation making a decision for that nation, and a guy making a decision for everyone else.

See, Lincoln was elected President by the majority of people in the US.  Anders was chosen the spokesman for the mages by . . .who, exactly?  Oh yes - himself.

Let me ask you this - if your co-worker - not your boss, your co-worker- tossed the *coffee pot out the window because they don't like coffee, would you be annoyed?

*substitute microwave, toaster oven, fridge or whatever you like if coffee's not your thing.

[Xilizhra]

Let me ask you this - if your co-worker - not your boss, your co-worker- tossed the *coffee pot out the window because they don't like coffee, would you be annoyed?

Your analogy smells of socks used as condoms and generalized failure.

I considered killing him because of the Sebastian thing, but ultimately decided to spare him to bring him through this. I have no regrets.

[Agamo45]

 I killed him, my Hawke wouldn't stand for any mage rebellion. I would've liked to take his head off, instead of just stabbing him in the back.

[TJPags]

Xilizhra wrote...

Let me ask you this - if your co-worker - not your boss, your co-worker- tossed the *coffee pot out the window because they don't like coffee, would you be annoyed?

Your analogy smells of socks used as condoms and generalized failure.

I considered killing him because of the Sebastian thing, but ultimately decided to spare him to bring him through this. I have no regrets.

Wow, ummm . . . huh?

My point was, Anders made the decision for every mage in Kirkwall, if not every mage in Thedas.

What gave him the right to do that?

[Xilizhra]

He didn't. The Chantry/templars did. They're the ones prosecuting the war, unless the Circles rebel themselves, in which case they're the ones making the choice.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Hehehe

[TJPags]

Xilizhra wrote...

He didn't. The Chantry/templars did. They're the ones prosecuting the war, unless the Circles rebel themselves, in which case they're the ones making the choice.

Umm, he blew up the Chantry . . .not the templars.