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[LPPrince]

I HAD to kill him for what he did.

I was playing a sarcastic sweetheart FemHawke(name is Aurora) and her tale was a classic case of bad things happening to good people.

Her father is dead, her brother dies, her sister dies, her mother dies, I mean damn, her personal life was breaking down before her.

Was a mage sympathizer throughout the game, but towards Act 3 realized that neither side was correct and the whole situation was screwed up.

She didn't want to choose a side, but when she had to, she went with the Templars.

Pretty much based on the fact that almost every mage she met and faced was a blood mage(including the one who killed her mother).

She knew that Grand Cleric Elthina was the most level-headed person involved in the situation and that she was the ONE person who could've ended this whole thing without bloodshed.

And then Anders had to go blow up the Chantry with her in it. Just because he couldn't get the idea in his head that peace IS possible.

Aurora, being the merciful person she is, was going to let him go even though his terrorist actions just created a huge worldly problem, but once her good friend Sebastian threatened the invasion of the army of Starkhaven, she had to knife him.

She realized that Sebastian lost his family just like she did. Elthina was the closest thing to a mother Sebastian had left.

But just like Aurora, Sebastian couldn't save her in time and she died. From a mage, nonetheless.

Would Aurora really deny Sebastian his..........JUSTICE?

No. She wouldn't. Not after she saw what Quentin did to Leandra.

So yes, Anders died.

And then she proceeded to go with the Templars to try to peacefully control the situation, which really didn't end up working out.

But hey, in the end, Aurora became Viscount of Kirkwall so its not all bad.

[Ithaeron]

I sided with the mages because I didn't want Bethany to die if I sided with the Templars.

And I left Anders alive only because I figured I'd need a healer in the battles ahead.. would have loved to kill him after all that. I'll be doing so my next play, I suppose.

[Taiyama]

Nimander wrote...

I didn't kill him, but really wanted a 'You will help atone for this travesty by defending the mages... and then you will be put on trial for your crimes.' option.

This.

There's actually a somewhat convoluted RP reason that Jade Hawke, a mage, spared Anders. See, Jade hero-worships the Hero of Ferelden, Taiyama Surana. He's an expert on Taiyama's stories and tries to emulate Taiyama to some extent. Taiyama, despite all Loghain had done, spared him and let him atone for his crimes. When Jade was thinking about whether to kill one of his best friends for the unjust murder of innocents, he thought back to the lesson that story taught. More death wouldn't solve anything or make anything better, and sparing Anders so he could atone for his sins may save further lives.

[sylvanaerie]

I killed him. I was sympathetic (playing a mage) and ended up siding with the mages for my first run but I liked Sebastian and my SH didn't need a healer. For me Anders was of no use to my party except for his maps. I didn't even take him to the Deep Roads and let Carver join the templars (thinking that would add some dramaz--it did!).
This run I will be taking him to the DR and letting Carver join the GW's. I'll still be murderknifing Anders though. What he did was heinous. That old lady was the ONLY one sane left in the damn city in a position of authority and she stood by her convictions of faith, refusing to give in to terrorists. Anders snuffed out those lives without much thought beyond "I did it".
He actually seemed relieved when I knifed him too, accepted my choice. (Though as someone posted upthread, I don't think he's truly dead, I think its Justice inside him now (or Vengeance) and I bet that will be a DLC, dealing with the Spirit of Vengeance.
I doubt he will ever survive to the end of any of my DA2 playthroughs. And I don't think I will be romancing him ever.
Hell Zevran is an assassin who kills for a living but he never deliberately killed innocents and I couldn't bring myself to romance him to completion either.

[Minxie]

 My mage Hawke sided with the Templars and killed her friend Anders. It was heartbreaking but in that particular playthrough I roleplayed my Hawke into deciding Anders' had gone too far. Why couldn't he have just blown up the Templars instead and leave the poor Grand Cleric out of it? Dammit, Anders!

But gawwd, that cutscene was agonizing for me. Watching her knife him and the look on his face as he lay dying, all I could think about was the sweet, lighthearted guy he was in Awakening and how everything had gone so wrong for him because he tried to help Justice.  

[Malja]

Killed. Was templar all the way. Called his bum a murderer too.

[DieHigh2012]

I killed that d*ck, terrorism is terrorism.

[Argent Csero]

fantasypisces wrote...

I romanced Anders with my male hawke rogue, so I didn't have the heart to kill him (especially from a RP perspective). In fact I stayed with him, partly because I guess I'm a sucker for torment, but to try and potentially keep him somewhat sane and not do this again. I sided with the mages, btw.

But, after reading through the forums, you will find a lot of people killed him.

Wow. I did this exact same thing. Same class and everything.

Great minds eh?

[GabranthSG]

From gameplay perspective, how can you kill Anders when he is the only spirit healer mage in the party (and you're not a mage)? When you kill him, you're left with Merril who doesn't get the Creation tree. To keep my healer, regardless of what I felt about what he had done, I HAD to spare him.

To let a plot twist like this get in the way of role playing is terrible, imo.

Użytkownik Dylandl edytował ten post 12 marzec 2011 - 02:48

[magicwins]

Instantly. I couldn't bear staring at the b********* a second longer.

[Teddie Sage]

It's not terrorism... It's fireworks...
I spared his life and killed the templars. XD

[Malja]

Dylandl wrote...

From gameplay perspective, how can you kill Anders when he is the only spirit healer mage in the party (and you're not a mage)? When you kill him, you're left with Merril who doesn't get the Creation tree. To keep my healer, regardless of what I felt about what he had done, I HAD to spare him.

To let a plot twist like this get in the way of role playing is terrible, imo.

Hahah honestly this tormented me! But it wouldn't work out for me either way. My best team was Fenris, Sebastian, and Anders. I picked the dps over additional heals (pot spammed the heck out of everything after that).

[Hellosanta]

I was shocked by his action at the end of the game. I knew his planning on something ... that of unpleasant, but I didn't expect him blowing up chantry. I really loved him in DAO:Awakening. How a man changes so drastically? He showed some hatred towards chantry and templars in Awakening, but it wasn't as much deep as in DA2. Justice/vengeance is responsible for his change. Oh my poor Anders.
That said, I killed him. Sebastian threatened me, so I had to.

[jarnaez]

Hellosanta wrote...

I was shocked by his action at the end of the game. I knew his planning on something ... that of unpleasant, but I didn't expect him blowing up chantry. I really loved him in DAO:Awakening. How a man changes so drastically? He showed some hatred towards chantry and templars in Awakening, but it wasn't as much deep as in DA2. Justice/vengeance is responsible for his change. Oh my poor Anders.
That said, I killed him. Sebastian threatened me, so I had to.

Actually if you talk to him for a bit he tells you that when they merged Justice ceased to be. They were one and the idea was all his.

[Hellosanta]

jarnaez wrote...

Hellosanta wrote...

I was shocked by his action at the end of the game. I knew his planning on something ... that of unpleasant, but I didn't expect him blowing up chantry. I really loved him in DAO:Awakening. How a man changes so drastically? He showed some hatred towards chantry and templars in Awakening, but it wasn't as much deep as in DA2. Justice/vengeance is responsible for his change. Oh my poor Anders.
That said, I killed him. Sebastian threatened me, so I had to.

Actually if you talk to him for a bit he tells you that when they merged Justice ceased to be. They were one and the idea was all his.

I know that he said that they were one, but .. if you read the side story/novel for Anders, then you see that Justice certainly changed Anders's personality.  More radical ... and sort of blinded by his belief.  

[Barquiel]

I sided with the mages but killed him. Elthina was one of the few sane persons in Kirkwall.

great plan Anders...

[KenKenpachi]

I haven't connected to the bio server to update my stats for 2, but it saddens me a bit how many of my team mates I've had to kill now. More so Merrill, trying to side with a demon, and attacked me, stupid blood mage.

Użytkownik KenKenpachi edytował ten post 12 marzec 2011 - 03:24

[packardbell]

I did.. he was a backstabbing rat.

[Maruset]

and made him an emo punk instead of someone moderately funny. I bet justice made him get rid of the cat, not the Wardens

Użytkownik Maruset edytował ten post 12 marzec 2011 - 03:33

[LobselVith8]

I didn't kill him. All I wanted since I played as a Grey Warden from the Circle of Ferelden was to see the Magi boon matter, and Anders made that possible. For all the talk about how Hawke would act like a Spartan and change the world around him, Anders was the one who wanted to free his people from a system he saw as enslaving his people, and did something about it while all Hawke did was buy his family manor. Anders talks about the rapes and injustice of the Chantry controlled Circle system, saw his friend lose his humanity to tranquility and beg to be killed, and his actions allow Hawke to side with the mages and free the Circles as a response. Because of Anders, the mages can end up being free. There should never be a compromise when the choice is between freedom and subjugation. I can't hate the man who gives the mages the chance to truly emancipate the Circles of Thedas, and I spared him because I agreed that the Chantry controlled Circles aren't the correct course of action.

[Jman5]

Dylandl wrote...

From gameplay perspective, how can you kill Anders when he is the only spirit healer mage in the party (and you're not a mage)? When you kill him, you're left with Merril who doesn't get the Creation tree. To keep my healer, regardless of what I felt about what he had done, I HAD to spare him.

To let a plot twist like this get in the way of role playing is terrible, imo.

I think that's exactly why they had Anders do what he did. Bioware wanted you to have to make a really tough choice. Otherwise I don't think anyone would side with him over blowing up the chantry.

[Bigdoser]

LobselVith8 wrote...

I didn't kill him. All I wanted since I played as a Grey Warden from the Circle of Ferelden was to see the Magi boon matter, and Anders made that possible. For all the talk about how Hawke would act like a Spartan and change the world around him, Anders was the one who wanted to free his people from a system he saw as enslaving his people, and did something about it while all Hawke did was buy his family manor. Anders talks about the rapes and injustice of the Chantry controlled Circle system, saw his friend lose his humanity to tranquility and beg to be killed, and his actions allow Hawke to side with the mages and free the Circles as a response. Because of Anders, the mages can end up being free. There should never be a compromise when the choice is between freedom and subjugation. I can't hate the man who gives the mages the chance to truly emancipate the Circles of Thedas, and I spared him because I agreed that the Chantry controlled Circles aren't the correct course of action.

This I let him live for the exact same reasons.

[Malja]

Jman5 wrote...

Dylandl wrote...

From gameplay perspective, how can you kill Anders when he is the only spirit healer mage in the party (and you're not a mage)? When you kill him, you're left with Merril who doesn't get the Creation tree. To keep my healer, regardless of what I felt about what he had done, I HAD to spare him.

To let a plot twist like this get in the way of role playing is terrible, imo.

I think that's exactly why they had Anders do what he did. Bioware wanted you to have to make a really tough choice. Otherwise I don't think anyone would side with him over blowing up the chantry.

I highly doubt that.

[AlexXIV]

Well I killed him. He is a liar and a murderer, and I killed npcs for lesser reasons. I am thinking about keeping him alive in my next playthrough though, since I want to see the ending then. He quite caught me by surprise since I actually started to like him more than in Awakenings ... up to the point of his betrayal.

[Sonris89]

Andres did a dick move, he killed who knows how many people, both sides condemmed him, Fenris and Aveline both said he needed to be punished. Merril said he should help but hell, after she got her whole clan butchered, what kind of good advice could she give? I was fed up with her too.

Merideth was beyond hope of calming, but maybe the templars and citizens of kirkwall were more forgiving up until he murdered the only neutral party left in the city. Couldn't he have bombed the knight commanders office instead? He had contacts and ways into the Gallows.

Andres represented everything wrong with mages. Lets face it. He was an abomination, one that thought he was in the right and was a threat to everyone around him, he even admits that several times and hes attacked and or murdered people while possesed. Anyone else did that and you would have cut them down without blinking.