Plaintiff wrote...
Aveline will have only heard anything about if you happen to bring her along on the quest. So any blame to be placed on her is only within the context of your individual gaming experience.
Was I claiming that she was always informed? I was not. I was merely claiming that when she is informed on playthroughs where she is present -- which should've gone without saying -- she doesn't do the prudent action.
Meaning placing Nyssa under protective custody until Huon is apprehended, given Huon's statement to Nyssa that he would return for her. Given that she's afraid of him and that Hawke can offer to protect her, it should've been done.
Had the criteria been met -- Aveline being present, Nyssa relays her fear of Huon now, and Hawke says the diplomatic line.
Whether Nyssa lives or dies is irrelevant to what should've been done by a Captain of the Guard (and personally, I'm not saying she should've lived. Just that actions should've been done in an effort to try to keep her alive).
Plaintiff wrote...
Escaped/rogue mages like Huon are under templar jurisdiction, anyway. As incompetent and vile as the templars might be , Aveline and the guard would still not be looked on kindly for stepping in to do their work. And let's not forget, the guard are not qualified to face even regular mages, let alone blood mages. All Aveline would likely accomplish is the slaughter of her own men, and Nyssa's life would not be saved regardless.
When the Templars don't do their jobs, the authority to protect the city from the dangers magic and demons pose becomes Aveline's responsibility, whether she wants it or not.
If the Templars won't do their job to protect the populus from magic, she will. Her job is to protect the city's inhabitants as well. Is it her expertise? No. But she does concern herself with it, evident if you bring her to your talks with Meredith to begin the quest.
She even tries to requisition a few Templars that would answer to her -- even if they weren't officially her people, they would be people she had command over -- to better combat the rogue mages.
Her job is to enforce the law. Not be picky about who gets protected under it. If a few Guardsmen die protecting Nyssa, at least they died protecting Nyssa as is
their job. Which then shows the Elven community that the City Guard will try to protect them in matters that even they aren't experienced at but the Templars are.
As a result, Meredith's authority might weaken further. But Aveline doesn't care about Meredith's authority, making no secret of how Meredith cannot be in the Viscount's palace forever and we know she isn't afraid to confront the Templars.
Protecting the Elven community, even if a couple guards die in the process and an Elf dies with them, goes to increase Aveline's standing amongst them. More then likely not from every Elf there, but from a fair to substantial chunk of the Alienage's denizens.
And she makes it clear in banter with Sebastian -- in the DLC MotA IIRC -- that she enjoys protecting people. But I'd rather see it then hear it, in sufficient quantity.
Plaintiff wrote...
But I think it's an extreme stretch, even then. If every crime-related quest was dramatically altered by Aveline's presence, the game script would be substantially longer and the player would never actually get to do anything.
And as for this, I never said -- or even implied -- that Nyssa should survive or that Aveline automatically grants NPCs an immunity to the horrors of death by her presence.
That's a strawman. I think. I made this post when I was exhausted, so eh.
Taking action =/= action is always successful.
Modifié par The Ethereal Writer Redux, 06 juin 2012 - 05:03 .