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[IdRatherBeSleeping]

 I don't want to take away his status if he isn't.

[AbsolutGrndZer0]

No.  If you take Anders with you, he will blast a force bolt of some kind (probably something Vengenace lets him do that is) through Keran, and then tell you that if he had been an abomination, that would have forced the demon to manifest.

[Paeyne]

If the demon is physically in the body (an abomination) then Anders is probably correct.

If the demon is physically in the fade (a possession such as Conner) than Anders spirit bolt would not work and we have no real way of knowing.

There is also the possibility that Anders lied. He has been known to do that. He definitely wanted the situation downplayed to Cullen.

[CloudOfShadows]

Merril is also able to conduct a test...

... in this case, I would even trust Merrils test more than Anders... though there is the possibility of deception..

[Foolsfolly]

No.

Anders does a test and it's negative.

Merrill does a test and it's negative.

Guy shows up in Act 3 as a Templar and he's asking for forgiveness for kidnapping someone close to you. Demons are many things but apologetic is not one of them

[Plaintiff]

No. Anders says he's clean, Merrill says he's clean. Taorahne (or whatever) says herself that Keran was not receptive to the demons and so she opted instead to drain his life force to fuel their magic.

So actually, as a cadet, he's already better at resisting magical/demonic influences than the vast majority of templars we've seen.

Modifié par Plaintiff, 10 avril 2011 - 07:24 .

[Paeyne]

I will tend to agree that Keran is probably clean...

However, if you recall, the Desire Demon in Connor said that she could lie low for a number of years and then reassert her authority over Connor at a later date.

Is it likely that he is clean? Yes.

Is it conclusive that he is clean? No.

[Xewaka]

That's why Cullen stablished a guarding period, to ensure that there is no possession.

[Paeyne]

Of course Keran has left Kirkwall so the guarding period is kinda moot at this point.

[earl of the north]

No he's probably clean....you also get an extra 'quest' due to Keran's family plight if you get him kicked out of the Templars.

He turned up in Templar armour in Act III when I kicked him out of the order (in two playthroughs) so I guess he got to keep his armour anyway.

Modifié par earl of the north, 10 avril 2011 - 09:02 .

[silver-crescent]

Bethany can test him too, and gets a negative result as well.

[TobiTobsen]

silver-crescent wrote...

Bethany can test him too, and gets a negative result as well.

She can? I think she told me that she wasn't experienced enough with demons to say anything for sure.

[Dragoniter]

It´s funny that any mage can do a test on him, but not Hawke if he/she is a mage, strange.

[rayvioletta]

Bethany told me she couldn't test him either. perhaps it depends on her ability points or what quests you've done already?
but anyway, as has been said both Merrill and Anders will say he's clean, and Cullen ensures they take precautions anyway. they should be more worried that there may be other recruits who weren't missing long enough to attract notice (it's implied that they possessed several templars and the time it takes depends on their resistance)

[Paeyne]

Personally, I like a third alternative. I think the demon had enough time to sink her claws into him but not enough time to control or possess him.

The 'naive conscientious, stalked by a Desire Demon Templar ' is far more interesting than the 'saved in the nick of time Templar'.

[Maria Caliban]

He's not possessed. We're just pen pals.

Sure, I could have possessed him, but there are several hundred mages in Kirkwall just dying to be possessed. I managed to hop into ten before Meredith called the Right of Annulment, but some bearded douchebag constantly popped up to waste me.

[Rifneno]

Paeyne wrote...

Personally, I like a third alternative. I think the demon had enough time to sink her claws into him but not enough time to control or possess him.

The 'naive conscientious, stalked by a Desire Demon Templar ' is far more interesting than the 'saved in the nick of time Templar'.

Really?  This game doesn't have enough stuff that always ends badly?  We need more?

[TobiTobsen]

Rifneno wrote...

Paeyne wrote...

Personally, I like a third alternative. I think the demon had enough time to sink her claws into him but not enough time to control or possess him.

The 'naive conscientious, stalked by a Desire Demon Templar ' is far more interesting than the 'saved in the nick of time Templar'.

Really?  This game doesn't have enough stuff that always ends badly?  We need more?

You didn't thought it was funny to get betrayed all the time? You're mad, good sir! Mad, I say!

[The Baconer]

Rifneno wrote...
Really?  This game doesn't have enough stuff that always ends badly?  We need more?

Yep. 'Too many happy endings in DA:O' they said, 'it's not even dark fantasy' they said. Well now they're gonna get the full grimdark experience.

[Paeyne]

Rifneno wrote...

Paeyne wrote...

Personally, I like a third alternative. I think the demon had enough time to sink her claws into him but not enough time to control or possess him.

The 'naive conscientious, stalked by a Desire Demon Templar ' is far more interesting than the 'saved in the nick of time Templar'.

Really?  This game doesn't have enough stuff that always ends badly?  We need more?

Without conflict there is no story.

Besides, your statement assumes Keran loses the battle.  I make no such assumption.

Modifié par Paeyne, 10 avril 2011 - 06:53 .

[Paeyne]

thurmanator692 wrote...

Anders could tell from that mage ki blast that he wasn't possesed, in the fade or no.

Your saying that a spell cast in the mortal world can affect a creature in the fade.

I have never seen anything in game that supports this.

thurmanator692 wrote...

He wouldn't have lied, he hates Blood Mages/Demons/Abominations as much as the next guy.

He may not have lied, but his assumption that 'if there was a demon in there it would have reacted' is not a litteral fact either.

[Maria Caliban]

Paeyne wrote...

thurmanator692 wrote...

Anders could tell from that mage ki blast that he wasn't possesed, in the fade or no.

Your saying that a spell cast in the mortal world can affect a creature in the fade.

I have never seen anything in game that supports this.

It's important to remember that the Veil is not a barrier. It's a lack of perception. The Fade is part of reality a mortal can't see, not another plane of existence.