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[Cyano Khaar]

I'm going to keep bumping this thread daily so that people can see it. Since I can't really play DAII anymore, I've got a lot of free time to post...<_<

[maxspiderx]

I have serious doubts about Bioware's abilities to get everyone out of this mess. They would not only need to create a patch that fixes future occurrences, but they would also need to address everyone's current infected save files.

Modifié par maxspiderx, 29 mars 2011 - 07:01 .

[Cyano Khaar]

maxspiderx wrote...

I have serious doubts about Bioware's abilities to get everyone out of this mess. They would not only need to create a patch that fixes future occurrences, but they would also need to address everyone's current infected save files.

I'm sure they can just have the patch fix the bug and then reset all of the buffs or something.

[maxspiderx]

As a temp fix, Bioware should release a patch to get rid of Isabella and Prince's buffs altogether so those of us can continue with our saves. I am sure they wouldn't need to look too hard into the algorithm to cook that up.

[Cyano Khaar]

maxspiderx wrote...

As a temp fix, Bioware should release a patch to get rid of Isabella and Prince's buffs altogether so those of us can continue with our saves. I am sure they wouldn't need to look too hard into the algorithm to cook that up.

Agreed. I could care less about having their buffs at this point. Just get rid of them so we can move on with the game.

[Higgles]

maxspiderx wrote...

As a temp fix, Bioware should release a patch to get rid of Isabella and Prince's buffs altogether so those of us can continue with our saves. I am sure they wouldn't need to look too hard into the algorithm to cook that up.

Even that would still need to go through Microsoft and Sony's lengthy approval processes.

And this is just speculation, but I doubt they'd approve something that effectively removes a feature from the game, especially if the bug associated with that feature isn't affecting everyone. For that matter, I doubt BioWare would even want to do that.

EDIT: It blows, though. I can't play my game either until this gets fixed.

Modifié par Higgles, 29 mars 2011 - 08:34 .

[malfeischylde]

I'm really frustrated. I've been a fan of this series since the original Neverwinter Nights, years ago, and it is really, really annoying that their quality control has only gone downhill since.

[Ra Khan]

Cyano Khaar wrote...

maxspiderx wrote...

As a temp fix, Bioware should release a patch to get rid of Isabella and Prince's buffs altogether so those of us can continue with our saves. I am sure they wouldn't need to look too hard into the algorithm to cook that up.

Agreed. I could care less about having their buffs at this point. Just get rid of them so we can move on with the game.

I also totally agree. Would be so simple. In the mean time I'm playing other games and watching Netflix.

[njlaccetti]

Okay, I think I just got the bug on one of my characters, when I got a small friendship boost during a conversation with Isabela in the Hanged Man. (The ability icon is now appearing and reappearing randomly in my abilities menu.) Isabela wasn't in my party at the time, and hasn't been in my party since. How exactly does the bug work at this point? Will it lower my speed even without ever having Isabela in my party?

[Higgles]

njlaccetti wrote...

Okay, I think I just got the bug on one of my characters, when I got a small friendship boost during a conversation with Isabela in the Hanged Man. (The ability icon is now appearing and reappearing randomly in my abilities menu.) Isabela wasn't in my party at the time, and hasn't been in my party since. How exactly does the bug work at this point? Will it lower my speed even without ever having Isabela in my party?

That's what I want to know, too!

I've used Isabella once and then still played for hours with no problems. The bug hit me like someone flipped a switch; one battle, everything was fine and in the next, it felt like Hawke was covered in molasses with his slow animations.

[MrKMR]

This is incredibly bad; gamebreaker all the way

[Harley_Dude]

So I assume if you see both Isabella and Sebastion bonus in your skills and they are not in your party then you have the potential to corrupt your save. From what I've read travelling to your home would cause the glitch but if you go to the character selection kiosk and remove all party members and add back the ones you want excluding Isabella and Sebastion you will be OK provided the friendship bonus is now removed.

[Cyano Khaar]

The Harley Dude wrote...

So I assume if you see both Isabella and Sebastion bonus in your skills and they are not in your party then you have the potential to corrupt your save. From what I've read travelling to your home would cause the glitch but if you go to the character selection kiosk and remove all party members and add back the ones you want excluding Isabella and Sebastion you will be OK provided the friendship bonus is now removed.

But then when you reload a save without them in your party, the bug will be back.

[maxspiderx]

I was able to produce the bug in the exact same fashion as njlaccetti. Will that bug continue to deduct 5% from you everytime you play, break, and load the game even if you never put Isabella back in your party again?

[Cyano Khaar]

maxspiderx wrote...

I was able to produce the bug in the exact same fashion as njlaccetti. Will that bug continue to deduct 5% from you everytime you play, break, and load the game even if you never put Isabella back in your party again?

From what I've tested, yes. But I'm not 100% sure.

It appears to stack everytime you load a game where Isabela or Sebastian aren't in your party. So 5% each time you reload. Eventually it cripples you completely and you really can't progress any further.

[njlaccetti]

maxspiderx wrote...

It appears to stack everytime you load a game where Isabela or Sebastian aren't in your party. So 5% each time you reload. Eventually it cripples you completely and you really can't progress any further.

This seems to be true most of the time, but there are certain places where it doesn't happen; for example, Merrill's house. I just loaded a save in there with my character that has the bug without Isabela in my party, and Thumbs Up isn't in my abilities menu.

[maxspiderx]

I just loaded in Merrill's house without Isabela, the darned thumbs up is still there. Grrr..

EDIT: Hey, I just checked my save with First Blight. My attack speed is currently at 0.

I
was wondering whether the 5% attack buff stands for 5 points, or 5% of
your current base attack speed without the buff. If it's the latter,
then shouldn't the deduction caused by the bug stop at 0 (since 5% of 0 =
0) just as in my case, instead of going into negative?

Modifié par maxspiderx, 30 mars 2011 - 05:32 .

[Vaegrin]

Hey BioWare: when the patch comes, how about you mend fences by throwing in some free DLC? Alternate costumes? Horse armor? Anything? No? Oh well, it was worth a shot.

[njlaccetti]

maxspiderx wrote...

I just loaded in Merrill's house without Isabela, the darned thumbs up is still there. Grrr..

Ah, sorry... I'm on 360, if that changes anything.

[chikity chad]

Vaegrin wrote...

Hey BioWare: when the patch comes, how about you mend fences by throwing in some free DLC? Alternate costumes? Horse armor? Anything? No? Oh well, it was worth a shot.

LOL Some alternate costumes for companions would be cool! I think that would be a fair trade in my opinion for suffering through this bug. My warrior is very slow but at least hes still playable.

[Glaive Monkey]

*sigh*
Now 2 weeks since my first post in here and still no official word.

Answer me this then: Why should we gamers even consider keeping a broken game with no word on a fix, when we could easily just trade it in for something currently playable? You'd sure make a lot more money from me buying all the DLC as I have with Mass Effect 2, than from someone buying an online pass after buying the game second hand.
Gamers are fickle. I am. Other games have been and gone in less time than I've bothered to care about this one. Look at Homefront. I got rid of that because it was almost unplayable on launch. I've held onto this in the hope that it will be fixed but we need to hear something, otherwise we'll just give up, get rid of it, and move on. That's how the software market works.

[Cyano Khaar]

Know what I don't understand? Why does the buff stack negatively? If anything shouldn't it stack positively?

If that happened, I wouldn't be complaining as much. XD

[maxspiderx]

Because it's not 5% of base attack speed that's buffing, it's 5 points. So when the bug hits, everytime you save and reload, it actually deducts -5 points of attack speed. I have questioned this earlier, we wouldn't be in so much trouble if the deduction was 5% of the current attack speed, then it would never hit below 0. (since 5% of 0 is 0)

[Cyano Khaar]

maxspiderx wrote...

Because it's not 5% of base attack speed that's buffing, it's 5 points. So when the bug hits, everytime you save and reload, it actually deducts -5 points of attack speed. I have questioned this earlier, we wouldn't be in so much trouble if the deduction was 5% of the current attack speed, then it would never hit below 0. (since 5% of 0 is 0)

Damn.

Is there any known location where this bug doesn't occur? A place where I can reload safely perhaps? I'm starting to go crazy because I can't get my Dragon Age II fix and I'm contenplating just playing through Act 3 with the bug.

I doubt i'll be able to take down that High Dragon in my current state though. Especially with Sebastians AND Isabela's bug.

EDIT: I take that back. I just got back from reading a bug compilation topic and I didn't realize just how many other bugs are out there. Guess I'll have to go back to playing the waiting game.

Modifié par Cyano Khaar, 31 mars 2011 - 03:23 .

[jpzgoku]

People should stop with the spoilers