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[ovaltineplease555]

Aermas wrote...

So diablo two isn't diablo?
The Elder Scrolls are the same things????

Diablo 1 and 2 are absolutely nothing alike other than having an isometric camera.

Zero similarities otherwise - even the "action rpg monster smash" mechanic is not dealt with in the same manner at all.

BTW, when D2 was released it was met with the exact same vitriol that DA 2 has been.

Hello, maybe the developers intended to change the game for the sake of pacing? DA: O has horrendous pacing at certain parts of the game and the massacre fatigue is awful at points as well. Lets take for example circle tower; how many floors of the same mobs do I have to fight? zzz

To be frank the only things that made DA: O very memorable was The Fade and the Urn of Sacred Ashes quest. The rest of the game is entirely forgettable but worth a playthrough. I don't even know how people could play DA: O repeatedly as if it was just the best thing ever. Its a good game but highly over-rated by a loud minority of people.

[Kendaric Varkellen]

I.AM.DUNCAN wrote...

 Why? Let's say that neither boulders gate nor origins ever existed. DA2 is the first bioware of that style that you have ever played. Are you still as disappointed?

I'd still be disappointed to some extent.

It's an ok game, but not a great game at all in my opinion. It's simply missing most elements I care for in a game and if it were the first Bioware game I had played I'd seriously think twice about getting another of their games.

[Alex109222]

I can do that or I can not be a sheep and think for myself.

[markusprime]

Boulders lolololol noobs

[DownyTif]

ovaltineplease555 wrote...
To be frank the only things that made DA: O very memorable was The Fade and the Urn of Sacred Ashes quest. The rest of the game is entirely forgettable but worth a playthrough. I don't even know how people could play DA: O repeatedly as if it was just the best thing ever. Its a good game but highly over-rated by a loud minority of people.

That's your opinion and don't try to make it general. I personally enjoyed the whole game. Please explain me, after going to Dragon Age Nexus and notice that "Skip the Fade" is one of the most popular mods available, why it is a very memorable moment? (side note: I personally loved the Fade). DAO is highly over-rated by a loud minority? That just made my day.

[Deadmac]

I.AM.DUNCAN wrote...

Why? Let's say that neither boulders gate nor origins ever existed. DA2 is the first bioware of that style that you have ever played. Are you still as disappointed?

The problem is, is that there will always be zombies who will find something to complain about.

Even though I do not find the game attractive, I try to express my thoughts in a diplomatic manner. Sometimes I allow my emotions to take over rationality, but the majority of my responses have been very logical. Calling people zombies or trolls for thinking differently than you is being discriminative. If you are going to call someone a zombie, you might as well keep it in context. Zombies are mindless drones who buy into hype. Brainwashed individuals who think the world is perfect; thus, they live in a shell in which is void of reality.

Although I disagree with the game's supporters, I will never-ever start a thread by dehumanizing them in any shape or form. If you want people to treat you with respect, I suggest you treat others in a respectful manner.

Start practicing some tolerance for other people's opinion. Don't be discriminative.

As for the question you are asking, I will not answer due to your inability to show tolerance and respect.

Modifié par Deadmac, 12 mars 2011 - 02:55 .

[Machazareel]

DownyTif wrote...

ovaltineplease555 wrote...
To be frank the only things that made DA: O very memorable was The Fade and the Urn of Sacred Ashes quest. The rest of the game is entirely forgettable but worth a playthrough. I don't even know how people could play DA: O repeatedly as if it was just the best thing ever. Its a good game but highly over-rated by a loud minority of people.

That's your opinion and don't try to make it general. I personally enjoyed the whole game. Please explain me, after going to Dragon Age Nexus and notice that "Skip the Fade" is one of the most popular mods available, why it is a very memorable moment? (side note: I personally loved the Fade). DAO is highly over-rated by a loud minority? That just made my day.

On the flip side, "DA2 sucks" is just someone's opinion as well, yet people seem to be under the impression that other people are their intellectual lessers just because they disagree.

[akeidolon]

You have written my own throughts quite precisely.  No, it is not Dragon Age Origins and there are many things that I do miss having available.  The character depth seems a bit lacking ... though I'm still fairly early on on the game, and the inability to "chat" with my companions freely drives me a bit crazy.  I'm also missing a lot of the humorous background chatter that i actually enjoyed, though I know it drove others crazy.

All in all though, I a really am enjoying the game and the fact that I just playing it for about five hours straight proves it.  I think we expected a lot from it and expected it to be more like the original.  Try to learn to play it for what it is, and you just may find yourself enjoying it far more than you thought you would.

[Machazareel]

DownyTif wrote...

ovaltineplease555 wrote...
To be frank the only things that made DA: O very memorable was The Fade and the Urn of Sacred Ashes quest. The rest of the game is entirely forgettable but worth a playthrough. I don't even know how people could play DA: O repeatedly as if it was just the best thing ever. Its a good game but highly over-rated by a loud minority of people.

That's your opinion and don't try to make it general. I personally enjoyed the whole game. Please explain me, after going to Dragon Age Nexus and notice that "Skip the Fade" is one of the most popular mods available, why it is a very memorable moment? (side note: I personally loved the Fade). DAO is highly over-rated by a loud minority? That just made my day.

On the flip side, "DA2 sucks" is also just someone's opinion and not necessarily indicative of the feelings of the majority. People seem to think of others as their intellectual lessers for not sharing the same opinions and think them blind to all these glaring shortcomings, when in point of fact, it is simply a matter of differing tastes.

edit: Ok, wow. This forum updates slowly. My previous post didn't show up at all after 3 refreshes and caused me to make a new one. <.>

Modifié par Machazareel, 12 mars 2011 - 03:00 .

[Smiffy008]

I.AM.DUNCAN wrote...

 Why? Let's say that neither boulders gate nor origins ever existed. DA2 is the first bioware of that style that you have ever played. Are you still as disappointed?

The problem is, is that there will always be zombies who will find something to complain about. I mean, seriously, prime evidence that evolution doesn't exist. You think people would learn that they don't have control over how the game is going to turn out. Yet they continue to launch nukes at the development team. And they're so ungrateful. Bioware gives you an awsome game, yet you throw it down because it isn't the same as the other. If you kept getting the same exact phone every time you get an upgrade, would you be happy? No. Because it's paying more money for what you already have. If bioware made DA2 exactly like origins, we would be paying money for what we already have. I played origins. I loved it. I'm playing DA2. I love it just as much. People need to learn to enjoy games as they play them. Go into the game with a fresh mindset. Forget about Origins. Play DA2 for what it is, a whole new game. Don't compare it to Origins. In fact, don't compare it to anything. If you learn how to do this, I promise you will enjoy it even more.

Interesting reasoning, I take it you enjoy action 52 as well?
After all, when you look past its flaws, there's a great number of games to enjoy there.

[DownyTif]

Machazareel wrote...

DownyTif wrote...

ovaltineplease555 wrote...
To be frank the only things that made DA: O very memorable was The Fade and the Urn of Sacred Ashes quest. The rest of the game is entirely forgettable but worth a playthrough. I don't even know how people could play DA: O repeatedly as if it was just the best thing ever. Its a good game but highly over-rated by a loud minority of people.

That's your opinion and don't try to make it general. I personally enjoyed the whole game. Please explain me, after going to Dragon Age Nexus and notice that "Skip the Fade" is one of the most popular mods available, why it is a very memorable moment? (side note: I personally loved the Fade). DAO is highly over-rated by a loud minority? That just made my day.

On the flip side, "DA2 sucks" is also just someone's opinion and not necessarily indicative of the feelings of the majority. People seem to think of others as their intellectual lessers for not sharing the same opinions and think them blind to all these glaring shortcomings, when in point of fact, it is simply a matter of differing tastes.

edit: Ok, wow. This forum updates slowly. My previous post didn't show up at all after 3 refreshes and caused me to make a new one. <.>

hehe, yeah the forum is really slow, I experienced that yesterday. And I totally agree with you. "DA2 sucks" or "DA2 rocks" is definitely an opinion and that's alright. It's how it is formulated that sometimes make it a general opinion.

[mordarwarlock]

Why? Let's say that neither boulders gate nor origins ever existed. DA2 is the first bioware of that style that you have ever played. Are you still as disappointed?

yes, because I want a WRPG, not a JRPG with western elements on it

Play DA2 for what it is, a whole new game. Don't compare it to Origins.
In fact, don't compare it to anything. If you learn how to do this, I
promise you will enjoy it even more.

then why name it DRAGON AGE?, seriously, some arguements look like they were made by a 5 year old

I got an xbox in 2005. I had an original well before that. People
who make assumptions don't deserve to judge people. You have no
legitimate argument, do you? Cute.
I'll be logging on to my xbox live account now.

you are pretty much just giving more weight to his arguement there about how you are a Console baby who wouldn't know quality WRPG's even if it hit you in the face

but I dunno, perhaps he meant something different

Modifié par mordarwarlock, 12 mars 2011 - 04:39 .

[Lotion Soronarr]

I.AM.DUNCAN wrote...
I see the issues. I overlook them because I LOVE the game enough to do so. It has a great storyline. It has great replayability. The characters are very deep. The combat is completely awesome. People like you, however, look at all the negative aspects. I just look at all the positive aspects.

This is called blind love.

To ignore issues and problems. Pretend they're not there. By your own admission, you deliberately turn a blind eye to them.

Now me? I have a list of everything that is wrong in every game I played. The only way to be truly objective (ar at leat come close) is to be critical about everything.

DA2 is a poor sequel to DA:0. On it's own, as an action game, it might be OK.

Currently it's suffering for the "Twilight syndrome".

[Kritanakom]

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

Now me? I have a list of everything that is wrong in every game I played. The only way to be truly objective (ar at leat come close) is to be critical about everything.

DA2 is a poor sequel to DA:0.

Check your list of things that are wrong for DA:O.
Now check how many of those flaws were no longer present in DA2.

Objectively, please?

Modifié par Kritanakom, 12 mars 2011 - 05:04 .

[Ozzyfan223]

I think the biggest issue is that people allow for other peoples comments pre-judge the game for them. Once one person pointed out something bad, another thought the same, and so on. Whereas if they had made their own assertion first they may have liked that certain aspect.

DA2 is no masterpiece, but its a fine game.

[Merwanor]

This is normal is it not? from what i have experienced all forums are cluttered with mindles hate posts on release of a game. And when a month has passed, it changes. I have played DA2 now for 10 hours, and am really enjoying the game. The flaws of DAO has been fixed and so far i have not seen anything negative about DA2 other than bugged DX11 and import function not working properly. But these things will get fixed.

[Ari87]

I've seen more "The game is bad because..." posts than "The game is good because..." so far. In fact, it would appear many of the pro-DA2 posts revolve around "I LIKE IT SO ITS GOOD SHUT UP SHUT UP I DON'T WANT TO HEAR YOUR CRITICISM!"

Saying the game is repetitive and copy'n'pasted because dungeons all look alike and fights all work the same way is an argument.
Saying "haters don't know **** cuz you hate the game" is... well I don't think I need to explain that one.

[Smiffy008]

I.AM.DUNCAN wrote...

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

I.AM.DUNCAN wrote...
I see the issues. I overlook them because I LOVE the game enough to do so. It has a great storyline. It has great replayability. The characters are very deep. The combat is completely awesome. People like you, however, look at all the negative aspects. I just look at all the positive aspects.

This is called blind love.

To ignore issues and problems. Pretend they're not there. By your own admission, you deliberately turn a blind eye to them.

Now me? I have a list of everything that is wrong in every game I played. The only way to be truly objective (ar at leat come close) is to be critical about everything.

DA2 is a poor sequel to DA:0. On it's own, as an action game, it might be OK.

Currently it's suffering for the "Twilight syndrome".

Blind love? Not really. I'm not pretending the problems aren't there. I'm just not paying attention to them. I'm enjoying the game, which is something you obviously can't do.

That's the same thing.

[mordarwarlock]

console baby huh? So I think consoles are more enjoyable then PCs. Thats my opinion. The opposite is obviously your opinion. I don't care what a "quality WRPG" is, all I care about is playing games that are fun. Whether they are true RPG's or not. Which, in case you didn't notice, DA2 is.

yeah.,...because you enjoy it means the game is great, seriously, how old are you? 5?

Blind love? Not really. I'm not pretending the problems aren't there. I'm just not paying attention to them. I'm enjoying the game, which is something you obviously can't do.

that's being blind, you are not being objective in telling what you like or dislike, you are just "not paying attetion" to the flaws and saying the game is great

hence why your opinion holds no weight whatsoever, you don't present facts, you just present blind subjectivism, and so far, nobody could take you seriously

That isn't what I'm saying. They have valid arguments. My
argument is that most of them are overreacting, and that it really isn't
that bad of a game.

and you are not?, this whole thread is you overreacting about people's dislike, hypocrite

Modifié par mordarwarlock, 12 mars 2011 - 05:22 .

[topster88]

I.AM.DUNCAN wrote...

That isn't what I'm saying. They have valid arguments. My argument is that most of them are overreacting, and that it really isn't that bad of a game.

It's not a bad game. It's also not that great.