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Fanboys commando!!!!....

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Smiffy008 wrote...

I.AM.DUNCAN wrote...

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I.AM.DUNCAN wrote...
I see the issues. I overlook them because I LOVE the game enough to do so. It has a great storyline. It has great replayability. The characters are very deep. The combat is completely awesome. People like you, however, look at all the negative aspects. I just look at all the positive aspects.


This is called blind love.

To ignore issues and problems. Pretend they're not there. By your own admission, you deliberately turn a blind eye to them.

Now me? I have a list of everything that is wrong in every game I played. The only way to be truly objective (ar at leat come close) is to be critical about everything.

DA2 is a poor sequel to DA:0. On it's own, as an action game, it might be OK.

Currently it's suffering for the "Twilight syndrome".


Blind love? Not really. I'm not pretending the problems aren't there. I'm just not paying attention to them. I'm enjoying the game, which is something you obviously can't do.


That's the same thing.


If it was blind love, it would be my favorite game of all time, and I would be targeting each and every person on these forums to convince them that this game is the messiah of games or something. Which isn't what I'm doing. This game isn't my favorite game. It isn't in my top 10 list, either. Maybe, maybe, in my top 20. But it's a good game. And it's new. So I am enjoying it until another game that I want comes out.

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 Why? Let's say that neither boulders gate nor origins ever existed. DA2 is the first bioware of that style that you have ever played. Are you still as disappointed?

The problem is, is that there will always be zombies who will find something to complain about. I mean, seriously, prime evidence that evolution doesn't exist. You think people would learn that they don't have control over how the game is going to turn out. Yet they continue to launch nukes at the development team. And they're so ungrateful. Bioware gives you an awsome game, yet you throw it down because it isn't the same as the other. If you kept getting the same exact phone every time you get an upgrade, would you be happy? No. Because it's paying more money for what you already have. If bioware made DA2 exactly like origins, we would be paying money for what we already have. I played origins. I loved it. I'm playing DA2. I love it just as much. People need to learn to enjoy games as they play them. Go into the game with a fresh mindset. Forget about Origins. Play DA2 for what it is, a whole new game. Don't compare it to Origins. In fact, don't compare it to anything. If you learn how to do this, I promise you will enjoy it even more.


Even if DA2 existed in a void, I would be bothered by the lack of information regarding how crafting works. The confusing nature of romances. And, how buggy Merrill's quest/romance is.

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mordarwarlock wrote...

console baby huh? So I think consoles are more enjoyable then PCs. Thats my opinion. The opposite is obviously your opinion. I don't care what a "quality WRPG" is, all I care about is playing games that are fun. Whether they are true RPG's or not. Which, in case you didn't notice, DA2 is.


yeah.,...because you enjoy it means the game is great, seriously, how old are you? 5?

Blind love? Not really. I'm not pretending the problems aren't there. I'm just not paying attention to them. I'm enjoying the game, which is something you obviously can't do.


that's being blind, you are not being objective in telling what you like or dislike, you are just "not paying attetion" to the flaws and saying the game is great

hence why your opinion holds no weight whatsoever, you don't present facts, you just present blind subjectivism, and so far, nobody could take you seriously


lol 17. Not 5. "Because I enjoy it means the game is great" is not what I'm saying. I'm saying that is my opinion. I'm not trying to get you to like the game, I'm telling you why I enjoy the game.

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Well i put this game right up there with hellgate london..................yup thats right
thats how much i dislike it!

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I.AM.DUNCAN wrote...

 Why? Let's say that neither boulders gate nor origins ever existed...


Sorry, can't do that. They both did, and considering Bioware's pedagree, this game is a disappointment.

This game definitely did get the ME2 treatment, it was dumbed down from DA:O, I do have less control over the personality of the main character (in addition to being forced to be human).

Basically, everything many of us feared about the game and were repeatedly assured was not the case turned out to be the case.

Is it a good game? As a standalone experience, sure, but when placed in context, it's a let down. Dragon Age: Origins was a great game. Its sequal should be at least that.

Modifié par adembroski11, 12 mars 2011 - 05:26 .


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I.AM.DUNCAN wrote...

Ari87 wrote...

I've seen more "The game is bad because..." posts than "The game is good because..." so far. In fact, it would appear many of the pro-DA2 posts revolve around "I LIKE IT SO ITS GOOD SHUT UP SHUT UP I DON'T WANT TO HEAR YOUR CRITICISM!"

Saying the game is repetitive and copy'n'pasted because dungeons all look alike and fights all work the same way is an argument.
Saying "haters don't know **** cuz you hate the game" is... well I don't think I need to explain that one.


That isn't what I'm saying. They have valid arguments. My argument is that most of them are overreacting, and that it really isn't that bad of a game.


I wasn't directly referring to your OP though. There sure are a lot of fans in denial about the games flaws around here.

Arguing over inherently subjective things like the style of combat animations or art direction is one thing. However, I've often seen the claim "DA2 is WAY better than DA:O" without any real points to back that claim up. To even MAKE such a statement, one would need to show why the two games can be compared. In my eyes they can't.

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I really think this is the best Dragon Age game I played to date.  I played some 130+ hours in Origins.  I really think Dragon Age 2 is so much better.  The combat speaks for itself.  They got rid of that weird little run in Origins.  Reused Dungeons don't bother me at all.  It might be because I am a former World of Warcraft Raider.  I
raided the same dungeons over and over again for months.  It never got old.  The story telling is just
great.  I loved it from the start.  Did y’all see what happens in the ending?  It is freaking awesome, more
epic than Dragon Age Origin’s ending. 

I liked what they did with the item system.  They made is a simpler.  Sure you couldn’t change your allies
equipment but I like that decision.  I couldn’t bring myself to change Varric’s custom at all.  The rune system is done really well.  All of that Journeyman to Master to Grandmaster stuff gone.  It makes it so much easier.  I thought the graphics look awesome on the console.  I like how the talents are set up.  But I wish I had
more points to spend stuff on other than having to pick two trees.  Overall it was a great first play
through.  I look forward to replaying as a MAGE!

Modifié par HardestWorker, 12 mars 2011 - 05:29 .


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Ari87 wrote...

I.AM.DUNCAN wrote...

Ari87 wrote...

I've seen more "The game is bad because..." posts than "The game is good because..." so far. In fact, it would appear many of the pro-DA2 posts revolve around "I LIKE IT SO ITS GOOD SHUT UP SHUT UP I DON'T WANT TO HEAR YOUR CRITICISM!"

Saying the game is repetitive and copy'n'pasted because dungeons all look alike and fights all work the same way is an argument.
Saying "haters don't know **** cuz you hate the game" is... well I don't think I need to explain that one.


That isn't what I'm saying. They have valid arguments. My argument is that most of them are overreacting, and that it really isn't that bad of a game.


I wasn't directly referring to your OP though. There sure are a lot of fans in denial about the games flaws around here.

Arguing over inherently subjective things like the style of combat animations or art direction is one thing. However, I've often seen the claim "DA2 is WAY better than DA:O" without any real points to back that claim up. To even MAKE such a statement, one would need to show why the two games can be compared. In my eyes they can't.


I'm not really saying that "DA2 is WAY better than DA:O". I personally think it's the other way around (minus the "WAY"). But I have already beat DAO multiple times, so now I'm ready for DA2.

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What's a Boulders Gate?

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What's a Boulders Gate?


BALDURS GATE. There.

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lol 17. Not 5.


/facepalm


"Because I enjoy it means the game is great" is not what I'm saying. I'm saying that is my opinion. I'm not trying to get you to like the game, I'm telling you why I enjoy the game.


no, you are saying exactly what I stated and I quote

I see the issues. I overlook them because I LOVE the game enough to do so. It has a great storyline. It has great replayability. The characters are very deep. The combat is completely awesome. People like you, however, look at all the negative aspects. I just look at all the positive aspects.


you overlook the issues and say you love the game, then come to a board to argue about it, with what?, with Facts?, objective thinking?, I very much doubt it

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I.Am.Duncan appears to be saying that DA2 is a great game on it own. Ok. I'll accept that. But gong back to Xena_Shepard's argument, it is not a standalone game. It is a sequel. As a sequel, it needs to fulfill expectations that it will be similar in depth of story, style of play, etc. I haven't rushed out to buy the game because I heard that Bioware decided to rush development and go with this single-character format. I'll finish playing my other games first, and then get the game when the price begins to drop.

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I was kind of excited about this forum because I hadn't discovered it when I was playing Origins the first time and I thought it'd be interesting to get to play through DA2 and see what other people were thinking of it at the same time. But... that doesn't seem to be what this forum is about. It's difficult to find a topic or thread that doesn't have somone saying negative things about the game and developers--and by "negative things" I don't mean "constructive negative things" or "I just don't like it," but really awful, whinging and occasionally surprisingly cruel things. I don't get it. What's the point? Is it just fun to have a bunch of other people fueling your rage?

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mordarwarlock wrote...

lol 17. Not 5.


/facepalm


"Because I enjoy it means the game is great" is not what I'm saying. I'm saying that is my opinion. I'm not trying to get you to like the game, I'm telling you why I enjoy the game.


no, you are saying exactly what I stated and I quote

I see the issues. I overlook them because I LOVE the game enough to do so. It has a great storyline. It has great replayability. The characters are very deep. The combat is completely awesome. People like you, however, look at all the negative aspects. I just look at all the positive aspects.


you overlook the issues and say you love the game, then come to a board to argue about it, with what?, with Facts?, objective thinking?, I very much doubt it

Why is that a 'facepalm' as you geeks put it.
Because he isn't a 40year old fat virgin his opinion is void??

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I.AM.DUNCAN wrote...

 Why?
Let's say that neither baldurs gate nor origins ever existed. DA2 is the first bioware of that style that you have ever played. Are you still as disappointed?


Why? Well, for starters, have you seen random npcs around kirkwall that have ****ty polygon count and textures. They look like they are from a game that was meant to be made 10 years ago and their expression looks like they've seen a freaking ghost.

Have you ever paused the game when enemies explode? I kill FEMALE enemy npc and she explodes.I PAUSE. I see a ****ing bald male face with chunks of meat. This time I kill male enemy npc and I see same bald face. How the freak did this pass quality control? LULZ U PRZ A BUTN N SUMTHN AWSUM HAPNS. That's borderline ugly. Fallout 3 had better decapitations than **** we've are presented in this game.

****ty dialogue. SPOILER!!!!!














You meet Anders and you can already hit on him as a male Hawk. Looks ****ing ridiculous.

The list goes on and on and YES I would be dissapointed if Origins & BG didn't exist. $60 for this? F that. I will play this one more time as a rogue just to read codex entries but after that my replayability with "Kirkwall Chronicles" ends. Unless modders come up with something amazing and put devs to shame.

Modifié par Romantiq, 12 mars 2011 - 06:06 .


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Let me put this into "fanboys" terms:

I.AM,DUNCAN and tez19..Why are you discussing game that you don't even have registered, ergo you don't own it(i am using fanboys argument here)? Or is it that daddy and mommy didn't buy that for you becaue is rated "M" so you don't qualify?

I have already asked tez19 same question before and there was no response, so i don't know why are he is here since he doesn't appear to be of proper age for this game(at least according to ESRB).Do your parents know that you are on mature forum?

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tariq071 wrote...

Let me put this into "fanboys" terms:

I.AM,DUNCAN and tez19..Why are you discussing game that you don't even have registered, ergo you don't own it(i am using fanboys argument here)? Or is it that daddy and mommy didn't buy that for you becaue is rated "M" so you don't qualify?

I have already asked tez19 same question before and there was no response, so i don't know why are he is here since he doesn't appear to be of proper age for this game(at least according to ESRB).Do your parents know that you are on mature forum?


Not being registered doesn't mean you don't own it. I only have access to a wireless connection right now and can't connect through my PS3... I own the game, just cant' get online.

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Eterna5 wrote...

Anathemic wrote...

I.AM.DUNCAN wrote...

Anathemic wrote...

I.AM.DUNCAN wrote...

and here comes all the complaints. Honestly, I just wanted to get my message out and have that be the end of it. I really don't feel like arguing opinions, because those kinds of arguments will always end in nothing.


Your on a forum buddy, y'know the place where opinions are posted? If you don't like opinions I suggest you get out.


does anyone like opinions? I like them when they're the same as mine lol. I respect them if they aren't, unless they are total troll bs. Which I'm used to dealing with so whatever. I was expecting this kind of feedback. Trust me. And I was ready for it. Obviously.


Ready for this kind of feed back huh?

StarCraft 2 is the better RPG than DA2, no troll, I truly believe this. Care to challenge me?


 You must be daft, Starcraft is a RTS game.


No duh, I'm saying StarCraft 2, a RTS game with RPG elements incorporated into it, is more RPG than DA2.

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I.AM.DUNCAN wrote...

I never thought I was Jesus. I wasn't
reincarnated to change everyone's opinions
. I posted a thread that
expressed my views. Apparently, I'm the only one who ever does that on
these forums. Arrest me! I'm a terrible person for being annoyed at all
of the complaints. It all just gets old, that's all.


Really?

I.AM.DUNCAN wrote...

wow. I never ever ever once said that this ISN'T a sequel. I'm saying that you should ignore that fact.


Okay so you don't want to change people's opinions, but you demand us to ignore the fact that DA2 is a sequel....

Ummm isn't that attempting to change a person's opinion?

Stop being hypocritical

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tez19 wrote...

mordarwarlock wrote...

lol 17. Not 5.


/facepalm


"Because I enjoy it means the game is great" is not what I'm saying. I'm saying that is my opinion. I'm not trying to get you to like the game, I'm telling you why I enjoy the game.


no, you are saying exactly what I stated and I quote

I see the issues. I overlook them because I LOVE the game enough to do so. It has a great storyline. It has great replayability. The characters are very deep. The combat is completely awesome. People like you, however, look at all the negative aspects. I just look at all the positive aspects.


you overlook the issues and say you love the game, then come to a board to argue about it, with what?, with Facts?, objective thinking?, I very much doubt it

Why is that a 'facepalm' as you geeks put it.
Because he isn't a 40year old fat virgin his opinion is void??


tez, get out or be productive, 'else I will put you back in your place.

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Anathemic wrote...

tez19 wrote...

mordarwarlock wrote...

lol 17. Not 5.


/facepalm


"Because I enjoy it means the game is great" is not what I'm saying. I'm saying that is my opinion. I'm not trying to get you to like the game, I'm telling you why I enjoy the game.


no, you are saying exactly what I stated and I quote

I see the issues. I overlook them because I LOVE the game enough to do so. It has a great storyline. It has great replayability. The characters are very deep. The combat is completely awesome. People like you, however, look at all the negative aspects. I just look at all the positive aspects.


you overlook the issues and say you love the game, then come to a board to argue about it, with what?, with Facts?, objective thinking?, I very much doubt it

Why is that a 'facepalm' as you geeks put it.
Because he isn't a 40year old fat virgin his opinion is void??


tez, get out or be productive, 'else I will put you back in your place.

Shoo you thing.

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tez19 wrote...
Shoo you thing.


How about you cut the ego crap. stop the ad hominem, and actually argue your opinion without any insult to the opponent whatsoever. So far, every post is directed as an insult to one person or another.

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Anathemic wrote...

tez19 wrote...
Shoo you thing.


How about you cut the ego crap. stop the ad hominem, and actually argue your opinion without any insult to the opponent whatsoever. So far, every post is directed as an insult to one person or another.

I do not discuss with the likes of you, you disgust me.