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[Kiba no Okami]

This is the most intelligent post I've seen on these forums since DA2 was released. Perfectly said friend.

I.AM.DUNCAN wrote...

 Why? Let's say that neither baldurs gate nor origins ever existed. DA2 is the first bioware of that style that you have ever played. Are you still as disappointed?

The problem is, is that there will always be zombies who will find something to complain about. I mean, seriously, prime evidence that evolution doesn't exist. You think people would learn that they don't have control over how the game is going to turn out. Yet they continue to launch nukes at the development team. And they're so ungrateful. Bioware gives you an awsome game, yet you throw it down because it isn't the same as the other. If you kept getting the same exact phone every time you get an upgrade, would you be happy? No. Because it's paying more money for what you already have. If bioware made DA2 exactly like origins, we would be paying money for what we already have. I played origins. I loved it. I'm playing DA2. I love it just as much. People need to learn to enjoy games as they play them. Go into the game with a fresh mindset. Forget about Origins. Play DA2 for what it is, a whole new game. Don't compare it to Origins. In fact, don't compare it to anything. If you learn how to do this, I promise you will enjoy it even more.

[tez19]

simfamSP wrote...

"There's no reason to think of DA as a trilogy. ME was designed to be a trilogy but DA is a new universe with no plans for an end, as far as we are aware. That's why DA2 is entirely separate from DA:O and is not a sequel in terms of story.

Think of the DA games like the Elder Scrolls games. As long as people buy them and they have a story to tell, Bio will keep making them."

Yup whoever thought it was a trilogy is dumb dumb.
Some people do not like DA2 and some people do. I believe from what i have read, the people who do not like DA2 try to force their opinion upon the people who do like DA2 NOT the other way around.
It is mainly gimpy PC gamers that are butthurt BioWare are catering towards the console's where the money is to be made.
DO NOT GO AGAINST PC GAMERS, THEY ARE REAL KEYBOARD WARRIORS.

Modifié par tez19, 12 mars 2011 - 08:23 .

[Velesfray]

Seriously so much hate..

DA2 is a great game for what it is..it tried some new stuff, it tried some other stuff. Succeeding at some things failing at others. Think about how long it took to get Halo right...Halo 2 was nothing like Halo 1

Point being things grow, and change is good. There was so much wrong with DA:O but no one brings that up now because suddenly there was nothing wrong with that game. Should enjoy the game for what it is not for whats in your wet dreams. Its a great game if you give a chance.

And on a side note clearly some of you think games cost $10 to make...Just to break your little bubble there a team of 15 people and a years worth of development can cost around a million depending on the project. So don't go blaming EA for trying to stay in business

Modifié par NetherWitch, 12 mars 2011 - 08:29 .

[Madman17]

The only mistake iv found so far was calling the game Dragon Age 2, it not a sequal to origins which is what the title implies

[Flunkorg]

Kiba no Okami wrote...

This is the most intelligent post I've seen on these forums since DA2 was released. Perfectly said friend.

I.AM.DUNCAN wrote...

 Why? Let's say that neither baldurs gate nor origins ever existed. DA2 is the first bioware of that style that you have ever played. Are you still as disappointed?

The problem is, is that there will always be zombies who will find something to complain about. I mean, seriously, prime evidence that evolution doesn't exist. You think people would learn that they don't have control over how the game is going to turn out. Yet they continue to launch nukes at the development team. And they're so ungrateful. Bioware gives you an awsome game, yet you throw it down because it isn't the same as the other. If you kept getting the same exact phone every time you get an upgrade, would you be happy? No. Because it's paying more money for what you already have. If bioware made DA2 exactly like origins, we would be paying money for what we already have. I played origins. I loved it. I'm playing DA2. I love it just as much. People need to learn to enjoy games as they play them. Go into the game with a fresh mindset. Forget about Origins. Play DA2 for what it is, a whole new game. Don't compare it to Origins. In fact, don't compare it to anything. If you learn how to do this, I promise you will enjoy it even more.

Wise words.

[Anathemic]

tez19 wrote...

Anathemic wrote...

tez19 wrote...
Shoo you thing.

How about you cut the ego crap. stop the ad hominem, and actually argue your opinion without any insult to the opponent whatsoever. So far, every post is directed as an insult to one person or another.

I do not discuss with the likes of you, you disgust me.

Is it because you are inadequate to produce a proper and/or decent argument?

[Anathemic]

tez19 wrote...

simfamSP wrote...

"There's no reason to think of DA as a trilogy. ME was designed to be a trilogy but DA is a new universe with no plans for an end, as far as we are aware. That's why DA2 is entirely separate from DA:O and is not a sequel in terms of story.

Think of the DA games like the Elder Scrolls games. As long as people buy them and they have a story to tell, Bio will keep making them."

Yup whoever thought it was a trilogy is dumb dumb.
Some people do not like DA2 and some people do. I believe from what i have read, the people who do not like DA2 try to force their opinion upon the people who do like DA2 NOT the other way around.
It is mainly gimpy PC gamers that are butthurt BioWare are catering towards the console's where the money is to be made.
DO NOT GO AGAINST PC GAMERS, THEY ARE REAL KEYBOARD WARRIORS.

Consoles are where the money is at huh? Man Blizzard Entertainment must be pretty poor bastards then.

[tez19]

Anathemic wrote...

tez19 wrote...

simfamSP wrote...

"There's no reason to think of DA as a trilogy. ME was designed to be a trilogy but DA is a new universe with no plans for an end, as far as we are aware. That's why DA2 is entirely separate from DA:O and is not a sequel in terms of story.

Think of the DA games like the Elder Scrolls games. As long as people buy them and they have a story to tell, Bio will keep making them."

Yup whoever thought it was a trilogy is dumb dumb.
Some people do not like DA2 and some people do. I believe from what i have read, the people who do not like DA2 try to force their opinion upon the people who do like DA2 NOT the other way around.
It is mainly gimpy PC gamers that are butthurt BioWare are catering towards the console's where the money is to be made.
DO NOT GO AGAINST PC GAMERS, THEY ARE REAL KEYBOARD WARRIORS.

Consoles are where the money is at huh? Man Blizzard Entertainment must be pretty poor bastards then.

I would argue your ridiculous one example, but you are scum. So away with you. Do you keep replying to me because you want me? Sorry i do not like fat chicks.

[Anathemic]

tez19 wrote...

Anathemic wrote...

tez19 wrote...

simfamSP wrote...

"There's no reason to think of DA as a trilogy. ME was designed to be a trilogy but DA is a new universe with no plans for an end, as far as we are aware. That's why DA2 is entirely separate from DA:O and is not a sequel in terms of story.

Think of the DA games like the Elder Scrolls games. As long as people buy them and they have a story to tell, Bio will keep making them."

Yup whoever thought it was a trilogy is dumb dumb.
Some people do not like DA2 and some people do. I believe from what i have read, the people who do not like DA2 try to force their opinion upon the people who do like DA2 NOT the other way around.
It is mainly gimpy PC gamers that are butthurt BioWare are catering towards the console's where the money is to be made.
DO NOT GO AGAINST PC GAMERS, THEY ARE REAL KEYBOARD WARRIORS.

Consoles are where the money is at huh? Man Blizzard Entertainment must be pretty poor bastards then.

I would argue your ridiculous one example, but you are scum. So away with you. Do you keep replying to me because you want me? Sorry i do not like fat chicks.

It's a pretty good example, how come you can't argue it, because you are too inadequate?

What about CD Projekt? Doing pretty well with Witcher 1 sales
ArenaNet doing pretty well too with Guild Wars.

Come on, put up an argument. If you can't get out.

[Romantiq]

Dude it's Tez19. He isn't the "brightest torch in a tunnel" so go easy on him. :lol:

[tez19]

Anathemic wrote...

tez19 wrote...

Anathemic wrote...

tez19 wrote...

simfamSP wrote...

"There's no reason to think of DA as a trilogy. ME was designed to be a trilogy but DA is a new universe with no plans for an end, as far as we are aware. That's why DA2 is entirely separate from DA:O and is not a sequel in terms of story.

Think of the DA games like the Elder Scrolls games. As long as people buy them and they have a story to tell, Bio will keep making them."

Yup whoever thought it was a trilogy is dumb dumb.
Some people do not like DA2 and some people do. I believe from what i have read, the people who do not like DA2 try to force their opinion upon the people who do like DA2 NOT the other way around.
It is mainly gimpy PC gamers that are butthurt BioWare are catering towards the console's where the money is to be made.
DO NOT GO AGAINST PC GAMERS, THEY ARE REAL KEYBOARD WARRIORS.

Consoles are where the money is at huh? Man Blizzard Entertainment must be pretty poor bastards then.

I would argue your ridiculous one example, but you are scum. So away with you. Do you keep replying to me because you want me? Sorry i do not like fat chicks.

It's a pretty good example, how come you can't argue it, because you are too inadequate?

What about CD Projekt? Doing pretty well with Witcher 1 sales
ArenaNet doing pretty well too with Guild Wars.

Come on, put up an argument. If you can't get out.

COD, GTA.
away with you.

[LobselVith8]

I.AM.DUNCAN wrote...

 Why? Let's say that neither baldurs gate nor origins ever existed. DA2 is the first bioware of that style that you have ever played. Are you still as disappointed?

The problem is, is that there will always be zombies who will find something to complain about. I mean, seriously, prime evidence that evolution doesn't exist. You think people would learn that they don't have control over how the game is going to turn out. Yet they continue to launch nukes at the development team. And they're so ungrateful. Bioware gives you an awsome game, yet you throw it down because it isn't the same as the other. If you kept getting the same exact phone every time you get an upgrade, would you be happy? No. Because it's paying more money for what you already have. If bioware made DA2 exactly like origins, we would be paying money for what we already have. I played origins. I loved it. I'm playing DA2. I love it just as much. People need to learn to enjoy games as they play them. Go into the game with a fresh mindset. Forget about Origins. Play DA2 for what it is, a whole new game. Don't compare it to Origins. In fact, don't compare it to anything. If you learn how to do this, I promise you will enjoy it even more.

People have different tastes. I thought the moral ambiguity with the templars and mages was well done. There was enough good people on both sides to keep it from denigrating into a good v. evil debate. I beat the game last night, and although it was short, I enjoyed it.  I thought the characters were great. Anders last act surprised me, I enjoyed having Merrill has a LI, it was cool to have Varric and Aveline have my back as friends, and Fenris surprised me towards the end and made me see him in a new light. Not to mention that the Magi boon that I wanted to have a real impact since the expansion Awakening was first released finally came to mean something.

[Gatt9]

I.AM.DUNCAN wrote...

 Why? Let's say that neither baldurs gate nor origins ever existed. DA2 is the first bioware of that style that you have ever played. Are you still as disappointed?

The problem is, is that there will always be zombies who will find something to complain about. I mean, seriously, prime evidence that evolution doesn't exist. You think people would learn that they don't have control over how the game is going to turn out. Yet they continue to launch nukes at the development team. And they're so ungrateful. Bioware gives you an awsome game, yet you throw it down because it isn't the same as the other. If you kept getting the same exact phone every time you get an upgrade, would you be happy? No. Because it's paying more money for what you already have. If bioware made DA2 exactly like origins, we would be paying money for what we already have. I played origins. I loved it. I'm playing DA2. I love it just as much. People need to learn to enjoy games as they play them. Go into the game with a fresh mindset. Forget about Origins. Play DA2 for what it is, a whole new game. Don't compare it to Origins. In fact, don't compare it to anything. If you learn how to do this, I promise you will enjoy it even more.

Yes,  yes I would be.  Because it's stil a cRPG,  attempting to emulate the experience of a PnP RPG,  and still comes up incredibly short in the comparison.

The problem is,  people seem to have lost sight of what it is a cRPG is attempting to emulate.  Color coded dialogue is ridiculous,  as is waves of magically appearing enemies. 

I find it highly entertaining that people insist RPGs should become Action-Adventure because it's something "New!!!",  ignoring the fact that there's already 100 games doing the exact same thing on the shelves.

Regardless,  at the end of the day,  DA2 claims to be a cRPG,  so I will compare it to RPGs,  and I'll guarantee you RPGs don't include color flashcards in place of dialogue and enemies warping in waves into a room.

[mordarwarlock]

Why is that a 'facepalm' as you geeks put it.
Because he isn't a 40year old fat virgin his opinion is void??

I know right yo?, it's all about being geek and being a 40 year old fat virgin dude!

grab a six pack and lets party like a G6 bro

[johnny3144]

I.AM.DUNCAN wrote...
Yet they continue to launch nukes at the development team. And they're so ungrateful. Bioware gives you an awsome game, yet you throw it down because it isn't the same as the other.

why should i be grateful about a game that didn't live up to my expectation. bioware isn't making games out charity, they are making it because we paid them to. when they didn't do a good job, i(we) have the right to be unsatisfied.

I.AM.DUNCAN wrote...
 People need to learn
to enjoy games as they play them. Go into the game with a fresh mindset.
Forget about Origins. Play DA2 for what it is, a whole new game. Don't
compare it to Origins. In fact, don't compare it to anything.

why shouldn't i compare it to dragon age: origin? it is named Dragon age 2.

I.AM.DUNCAN wrote...
Bioware gives
you an awsome game, yet you throw it down because it isn't the same as
the other. If you kept getting the same exact phone every time you get
an upgrade, would you be happy? No. Because it's paying more money for
what you already have. If bioware made DA2 exactly like origins, we
would be paying money for what we already have.

people aren't hating it because it isn't the same as origin, we are hating it because it is a poor game compare to origin. we would have more than happy to have a game that kept what we loved in origin, and improved what we didn't like. they took out what people loved about origin, and put in lazy gimmicks to replace them. it's like selling sugar that aren't sweet. people felt betrayal. sequals are meant to be better than it's predecessor, not worse.

it is also very unfair to claim people have no right to be angry because it is still slighly better than the trash other developer spew out. we pre-ordered the game expecting bioware to live up to it's repuation. we purchased it above market price expecting bioware to live up to it's reputation. we purchased the game without a second thought because bioware CLAIMED they lived up to their reputation. we have every right to be disappointed, unsatisfied, angered when they have failed to delivier what they and their reputation claimed the game to be. it is the price for the benifit of their reputation, they have to live up to it.

i am not saying the game is worthless trash, but it's a far cry from dragon age origin. i give it a 7 at most, and i do not pre-order a 59 dollar 7/10 game. that is why i am disappointed

[John Epler]

And this thread has descended into bickering and name-calling.

Feel free to share your opinions, folks, so long as you're civil about it.

Locking.