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When everything comes crashing down... what will you do, Champion?


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#26
Mahtisonni

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My Hawke was a mage so siding with templars was no option and in the end all that Anders really guilty of was stealing my kill.

My Hawke would have punched him into dick and said "I'll forgive you this time Anders, but I get to burn the next chantry."

Modifié par Mahtisonni, 15 mars 2011 - 08:53 .


#27
Trobon18

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I chose to side with the mages because I wanted to believe that people could still return even from blood magic. After all his love had consorted with demons and she was by no means evil.

I still like to think that some of those who did not resort to demons and blood magic escaped. After all someone spread the word of the Champion's actions and I don't think it was just Verric. Merrideth invoking the rite of annulment was just too much. It was too far.

I also spared Anders in the end. Killing him wouldn't change what happened, but he could still make things better. If killing him would have averted the rite of annulment I would have, but since killing him wouldn't make anything better I gave him the chance to help put things right.

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Icy Magebane

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Well... I played as a mage. I had been siding with mages mostly, but sometimes I'd side with Templars just to keep Fenris happy so... basically, by the end of the game, there were more than enough examples of mages going out of control, but I really just did not trust Meredith. Somehow, the idea of people who might kidnap me in the middle of the night and make me tranquil just didn't sound that appealing, so I wasn't going to give them any power. If Meredith hadn't been such a fanatic, I would have sided with the Templars... but I wasn't going to take that kind of chance.

#29
Evil Asch

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I wanted to choose the mages because Anders was clearly a borderline if not outright Abomination (someone posted a youtube link showing a conversation between male Hawke and Anders in the mansion where Justice interrupts and Anders admits he's been losing time). Also siding with the mages and assisting the Templars to quell the mages and end the fighting ASAP saved the most innocent lives.

I also had a scene where I was given a choice between sparing three mages that had *not* resorted to blood magic to save their lives or killing them along with the rest of the mages. I spared them which Cullen approved of.

While the Templars were despicable damn near every mage with the exception of Bethany and the three I spared chose blood magic and abomination. They were clearly provoked and there were extenuating circumstances in almost all cases but a decision was still made.

I didn't blame Anders for what he'd done, I saw stabbing him as a mercy killing. I would side with the Templars again, they're wrong but in *that* case they were the lesser evil and resulted in the least chaos and death of innocents.

#30
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Firstly, I was angry that there was no option to just leave the city at that point.  Varric summed it up nicely when you asked the group for opinions on what to do with Anders, saying something to the effect of "I've had enough of templars and mages".  Because at that point in my play through?  My younger brother and sister and my mother were all dead.  I was only still with Merrill because the game had no option for me to break it off at will (unlike DAO) since I had romanced her in the hopes that I would be able to turn her away from blood magic but instead she ends getting her entire clan killed.  And the sole person in the templars versus mages issue that I'd actually agreed with along with the symbol of my religion had just been blown up.

So honestly?  That city had turned into nothing but death and despair incarnate for me.  The only thing I knew for sure that I wanted to do was kill Anders, but even then I couldn't kill him enough.  He gets off with a simple dagger in the back, with a look of regret on my face no less, while personally I wanted to beat him to death with my bare hands, especial after his "then go ahead and make me a martyr" comment.  (As an aside everything about Anders frustrated the hell out of me.  I understand, no matter how lame it is, that he's got to be there to advance the story forward but when I was first playing it, I keep wondering about him talking about being a Gray Warden and friends with Justice since I didn't recall him being in my Awakenings play through.  Upon loading Awakenings I realized that he was he was the mage found under suspicious circumstances that I'd handed over to the templars after the assault on the castle...gotta love your personal canon having the crap retconned out of it.  Then again after helping him gather the supplies for his "potion" and realizing that something was up and choosing to not continue aiding him, I'm given no options to find out what he was up to and try to stop it.  All aboard...)

But back to the issue at hand, I continued to try to broker a peace between the templars and the mages but then the game slapped me with the "uh-uh!  you gots to pick a side!" thing so I sided with the mages since I had been siding with the ones worth saving to honor my sister's memory as it were.  So then I ignore multiple opportunities to kill Meredith and end up cornering myself in the tower as my personal Alamo only to have Orsin freak out and turn to blood magic...thus making me feel like giant tool.  So I fight my way out, not finding a single mage that hasn't either turned blood mage or abomination and make it to the courtyard to find out that Meredith has been under the influence of the Loc-Nar...er...the idol and then I have to kill her whilst cursing whoever did the design of the Gallows courtyard.  At this point my team gives Cullen and a platoon of templars a "don't eff with us" look and are allowed to walk off.

While instead I almost found myself just wanting to alt-tab out, load up iTunes, blast some Lamb of God or Cradle of Filth, and make a 300-esque last stand against the "thousands of templars sailing across the bay" because frankly I just didn't care at this point.  I would've paid Zevron all the money I had left to get Avaline, Donnic, Varric, and Sebastain out of the city, give Fenris the option to stay or go, make Merrill stay to atone for what happened to her clan, then go out in fury.  (Isabella was not a factor because she didn't return after stealing the artifact, and frankly?  If she had shown back up I would've killed her for taking away the one thing that might've prevented the Qunari from attacking the city.  Because we could've easily protected her from the person that wanted her to retrieve it, or better yet just gone to kill him; instead she takes off with it and plunges the city into hell and gets the Viscount killed.)

But instead I'm given a blurb of an epilogue that says I'm missing.  So I'll just have to keep reminding myself that I'm not missing...I'm a hermit living in the Fereldan back country that anytime someone looking for "the Champion" I instead go on a triade about how they don't want a champion they just a want a tool they can use to further their own goals and then move even deeper into the boonies.

(edited to break into paragraphs per Icy Magebane's request, thanks for the advice)

Modifié par POed Paladin, 15 mars 2011 - 11:22 .


#31
Cajeb

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Bethany=mage so I chose mages. Simple as that. I also though it was BS to persecute all mages b/c of a few radicals...but the end game showed me that 90% of the mages were corrupted by then sooo

I also killed Anders because I can't let that **** stand

#32
Icy Magebane

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@POed Paladin... excellent post, but you may want to consider breaking that into a couple paragraphs. Glad I read it though...