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[SomeoneStoleMyName]

I think ill have trust issues for the rest of my life after the ending (End game spoilers below!)

I noticed Meredith was a very driven templar and i symphatized with the mages. Still decided to side with her though, because the plan was to side with the mages on my mage playthrough.

So she is abit of a fanatic, but shes also kinda right, so i aided her abit. Then she starts accusing people left and right of being blood mages (lol!) and i think to myself "Man shes crazy" but then i went on making excuses on her behalf, like "But she has a point, she does what is neccessary, she does what noone else dears do, which must be done"

Continuing on she ends up going more and more fanatical and zealous, and i started to get suspicious. But still i made up excuses for myself.

After having killed all the mages only Bettany, my sister was left. And at this point i started to think "Theres no going back..." so i accepted her killing Bettany. Even now i still didnt see the warning signs as she unsheathes the blade out of Bettanys stomack smiling, kicking her down on the floor.

Not before she actually tried KILLING me did i get it.

I feel so Naive. How could i not see it? I cant believe how a video game could manage to manipulate me so much. I always laughed at these kinda guys now i feel i dont have the right to judge anyone anymore.

So yeah, respect to the writers of this game. It showed me how "any means to an end" truly corrupts people on their path, not by telling, but by experiencing it. This is something i never expected. Because in real life ive always considered myself the guy that is the critical thinker with a strong integrity and with an immunity to being influenced and manipulated. Maybe it was just stupid of me, but my defenses werent "up" so to speak because it was unpredictable in my opinion.

Im almost ashamed to admit all this, but im more so overjoyed - with this feeling of being bested. I find it a pleasing experience and surprise even if im the only fool to fall for it.

Modifié par SomeoneStoleMyName, 12 mars 2011 - 08:26 .

[Alanosborn1991]

What! She kills Bethany right in front of you! That would make me cry to see that

[Camilladilla]

Oh wow... now I feel really justified about picking the mages over the templars even if the mages are all on the train to crazytown, at least Hawke's sibling still survives.

[Hoax86]

Her attitude probably wasn't helped by the ancient, crazy-making idol she decided to carry around for almost a decade.

[SomeoneStoleMyName]

Alanosborn1991 wrote...

What! She kills Bethany right in front of you! That would make me cry to see that

The maker willed it!

jk

But yeah only bettany was left and Meredith tells me she has to die. (You get the choise to intervine, i didnt) Thing was, so many atrocities had been done allready that i thought it might be the best to bury ALL of it. Including her... it made sense at the time.

Was a pretty cruel execution, cant wait for my next playthrough to see how things turn out differently

[DarkSpider88]

So you can side with the templers but still save Bethany?

[Edge2177]

In my game 'world' everyone of the companions survived, and only Sebastian left because I spared Anders. In the end we WTFpwned Meredith. It was glorious, and a ton of fun.

[SomeoneStoleMyName]

DarkSpider88 wrote...

So you can side with the templers but still save Bethany?

I cant know for sure, but you get the option to stop her atleast. My guess is that if you do, she will either murder her nomatter what and youll face Meredith outside. Either that or Meredith will allow it and let you leave together,  and use that as an excuse for you being "Corrupted" outside - either way starting the endfight.

Modifié par SomeoneStoleMyName, 12 mars 2011 - 03:04 .

[jarnaez]

SomeoneStoleMyName wrote...

DarkSpider88 wrote...

So you can side with the templers but still save Bethany?

I cant know for sure, but you get the option to stop her atleast. My guess is that if you do, she will either murder her nomatter what and youll face Meredith outside. Either that or Meredith will allow it and let you leave together,  and use that as an excuse for you being "Corrupted" outside - either way starting the endfight.

If it's like choosing to save those mages she'd glare at you and then let you work your way to the First enchanter and then confronting her.

[Bigdoser]

I just finished the game da2 is really grey imo. I sided with the mages honestly if I had the choice I think cullen should of been knight commander.

[Der Kirk]

He is knight commander after you kill Crazy McLyriumsword the mage killer.

[kea_spicy]

Bigdoser wrote...

I just finished the game da2 is really grey imo. I sided with the mages honestly if I had the choice I think cullen should of been knight commander.

Agreed. Cullen  hates mages like nobody's business because of the whole "incident" at the Ferelden Circle, but at least he doesn't have an insanity sword with a skull on it.

[KenKenpachi]

Don't feel bad OP if not for people like you we would never have cults! Or Orginized Society!

[JJDrakken]

I just wish she didn't become Dark Lord Meridith, with her Lightsaber, It even made the noise...come on!  Force lighting galore.


JJ

[AbsolutGrndZer0]

Hmmm might have to side with the templars with my rogue, just so I can "save" Bethany. My mage sided with the mages, and my warrior is going templar, but bethany is already dead.

[Der Kirk]

JJDrakken wrote...

I just wish she didn't become Dark Lord Meridith, with her Lightsaber, It even made the noise...come on!  Force lighting galore.


JJ

She also flew around the battlefield at speeds rivaling those of anime characters. WOOOSH

[Arel]

My Bethony is a gray warden so i wouldn't have to worry about that i think, haven't reach the end on my second playthrough yet though

[AlexXIV]

Well I just finished and sided with the templars, because of the whole 'bloodmages killed my mother' thing. And I had a choice to keep Meredith from killing Bethany. Even though I feared all along that Bioware is going to take my last family member as well. I think the glorious ending is the one when you side with the templars, since in the end you kill the fanatics, traitors and the bloodmages all the same. Which is the proper thing imo. And since Orsino turned into something of a ... I don't know what ... I am not ever going to side with the mages in this game.

What I liked about DA2 is that it doesn't give you a good vs evil as in templars vs mages. It shows that good people are on each side and also bad people. Meredith was crazy but not really evil. Problem with fanatics is, they would do anything to achieve their goals, even if it means to resort to the same means they were initially fighting. Orsino was the much bigger disappointment, he got me on his side for quite a while and I even supported him in his speach against Meredith, which I regretted later. Like with many other mages as well. I mean I spared or helped alot of mages just to get backstabbed later.

I understand that the templars are also to blame that many mages got desperate. But there were the 3 mages who left Orsino, and there was Bethany to prove that not all desperate mages hand over control to demons. And that the first enchanter of all things was a bloodmage was probably as much a problem as the fanatism of Meredith. I mean Orsino claims he never used it before the end, but he learned it obviously. And he managed quite a fireworks considering it was supposed to be the first time. Did I mention he protected the murderer of Hawke's mom?

[AbsolutGrndZer0]

AlexXIV wrote...

 And since Orsino turned into something of a ... I don't know what ... I am not ever going to side with the mages in this game.

You didn't recognize him? Shame on you for not playing all your DA:O DLC! 

Also, it was more than just blood magic. Go play Golems of Amgarrak.

Modifié par AbsolutGrndZer0, 12 mars 2011 - 04:48 .