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[Fiery Specter]

 The sad thing is that many of the fanboys on this site will ever admit that reviewers are giving good scores to this game because of monetary pressure.

[Jedra101]

epiccrabs wrote...

Bhav wrote...

epiccrabs wrote...

I agree, most if not all the reviews praised the game like it was a god-given game. Came the aftermath, now it seems more like reviews are paid.

So you think that EA would be paying people to write bad reviews about their games?

Or I just misunderstood something.

Have you seen the man with the GOLDEN VOICE?!?!?

On a serious note, are you blind? Haven't you seen what this game's reviews scores are
8.0 on gamespot
8.5 on IGN
94/100 on PC Gamer
92/100 on PC Trailers

The list could go on and on but what can I say to change the mind of fanboys?

You have to take these reviews with a pinch of salt.  Reviewers are not paid by the games industry, but they are treated well, and they know where their bread is buttered.  At the end of the day you need add some context, read as many different reviews as possible and then form your own opinion.

Is this game worth those scores?  In my opinion it is not, but given the advertising budget of EA it was going to get them anyway.

[Keele]

Fiery Specter wrote...

 The sad thing is that many of the fanboys on this site will ever admit that reviewers are giving good scores to this game because of monetary pressure.

You're all claims and nothing else.

Where is your evidence? 

[epiccrabs]

Jedra101 wrote...

epiccrabs wrote...

Bhav wrote...

epiccrabs wrote...

I agree, most if not all the reviews praised the game like it was a god-given game. Came the aftermath, now it seems more like reviews are paid.

So you think that EA would be paying people to write bad reviews about their games?

Or I just misunderstood something.

Have you seen the man with the GOLDEN VOICE?!?!?

On a serious note, are you blind? Haven't you seen what this game's reviews scores are
8.0 on gamespot
8.5 on IGN
94/100 on PC Gamer
92/100 on PC Trailers

The list could go on and on but what can I say to change the mind of fanboys?

You have to take these reviews with a pinch of salt.  Reviewers are not paid by the games industry, but they are treated well, and they know where their bread is buttered.  At the end of the day you need add some context, read as many different reviews as possible and then form your own opinion.

Is this game worth those scores?  In my opinion it is not, but given the advertising budget of EA it was going to get them anyway.

Not paid you say? Hmmmm Kane and Lynch, OOOPS 

[Ixalmaris]

Keele wrote...

Fiery Specter wrote...

 The sad thing is that many of the fanboys on this site will ever admit that reviewers are giving good scores to this game because of monetary pressure.

You're all claims and nothing else.

Where is your evidence? 

Right next to the evidence of the 4chan raid on Metacritics.

[Ixalmaris]

epiccrabs wrote...

Jedra101 wrote...

epiccrabs wrote...

Bhav wrote...

epiccrabs wrote...

I agree, most if not all the reviews praised the game like it was a god-given game. Came the aftermath, now it seems more like reviews are paid.

So you think that EA would be paying people to write bad reviews about their games?

Or I just misunderstood something.

Have you seen the man with the GOLDEN VOICE?!?!?

On a serious note, are you blind? Haven't you seen what this game's reviews scores are
8.0 on gamespot
8.5 on IGN
94/100 on PC Gamer
92/100 on PC Trailers

The list could go on and on but what can I say to change the mind of fanboys?

You have to take these reviews with a pinch of salt.  Reviewers are not paid by the games industry, but they are treated well, and they know where their bread is buttered.  At the end of the day you need add some context, read as many different reviews as possible and then form your own opinion.

Is this game worth those scores?  In my opinion it is not, but given the advertising budget of EA it was going to get them anyway.

Not paid you say? Hmmmm Kane and Lynch, OOOPS 

To be fair, the reviewers are not paid by publishers. Their employers are.

[Drake Sigar]

Ugh, you’re not giving us any new information here, try giving the people a personally researched example. For instance – did you know Alpha Protocol is the best stealth game since Metal Gear Solid, and IGN gave it a 6.3? And they gave Night of the Museum 2 a score of 7.5 when it’s two hours long and worse than the majority of flash games. Nothing suspicious about that when the movie, game, and IGN site are owned by FOX.

[Keele]

Ixalmaris wrote...

Keele wrote...

Fiery Specter wrote...

 The sad thing is that many of the fanboys on this site will ever admit that reviewers are giving good scores to this game because of monetary pressure.

You're all claims and nothing else.

Where is your evidence? 

Right next to the evidence of the 4chan raid on Metacritics.

Can't I have a discussion with your boyfriend without you popping in to lend him a hand? Jesus.

[Ixalmaris]

Keele wrote...

Ixalmaris wrote...

Keele wrote...

Fiery Specter wrote...

 The sad thing is that many of the fanboys on this site will ever admit that reviewers are giving good scores to this game because of monetary pressure.

You're all claims and nothing else.

Where is your evidence? 

Right next to the evidence of the 4chan raid on Metacritics.

Can't I have a discussion with your boyfriend without you popping in to lend him a hand? Jesus.

And as always, the clueless resort to personal attacks.
A pretty sure way to identify fanboys if you ask me.

[Fiery Specter]

Keele wrote...

Fiery Specter wrote...

 The sad thing is that many of the fanboys on this site will ever admit that reviewers are giving good scores to this game because of monetary pressure.

You're all claims and nothing else.

Where is your evidence? 

Anyone with a lick of sense understands this.  Do you think EA will give  companies like OXM exclusives if they trash a game like this?  Seriously?  No, they give the exclusives to the companies who are willing to play ball.  And which magazines sell best, the ones get the early info.
I know you're getting all butt hurt, especially since you only joined this forum so you could wave the DA2 flag and all, but you need to get over the fact that your precious game is third rate quality.  The sooner you realize this the better off we'll all be.
Now run along before you embarrass yourself further.  

[Fiery Specter]

Keele wrote...

Ixalmaris wrote...

Keele wrote...

Fiery Specter wrote...

 The sad thing is that many of the fanboys on this site will ever admit that reviewers are giving good scores to this game because of monetary pressure.

You're all claims and nothing else.

Where is your evidence? 

Right next to the evidence of the 4chan raid on Metacritics.

Can't I have a discussion with your boyfriend without you popping in to lend him a hand? Jesus.

Uh oh, someone grew a set of e-balls, too bad it doesn't equate to real life ones.

[epiccrabs]

Ixalmaris wrote...

Keele wrote...

Ixalmaris wrote...

Keele wrote...

Fiery Specter wrote...

 The sad thing is that many of the fanboys on this site will ever admit that reviewers are giving good scores to this game because of monetary pressure.

You're all claims and nothing else.

Where is your evidence? 

Right next to the evidence of the 4chan raid on Metacritics.

Can't I have a discussion with your boyfriend without you popping in to lend him a hand? Jesus.

And as always, the clueless resort to personal attacks.
A pretty sure way to identify fanboys if you ask me.

Easiest way to escape a possibly heated-argument. 
1. INSULT THE POSTER
2. IGNORE HIS CLAIMS

Typical biodrones

[Jedra101]

Ixalmaris wrote...

epiccrabs wrote...

Jedra101 wrote...

epiccrabs wrote...

Bhav wrote...

epiccrabs wrote...

I agree, most if not all the reviews praised the game like it was a god-given game. Came the aftermath, now it seems more like reviews are paid.

So you think that EA would be paying people to write bad reviews about their games?

Or I just misunderstood something.

Have you seen the man with the GOLDEN VOICE?!?!?

On a serious note, are you blind? Haven't you seen what this game's reviews scores are
8.0 on gamespot
8.5 on IGN
94/100 on PC Gamer
92/100 on PC Trailers

The list could go on and on but what can I say to change the mind of fanboys?

You have to take these reviews with a pinch of salt.  Reviewers are not paid by the games industry, but they are treated well, and they know where their bread is buttered.  At the end of the day you need add some context, read as many different reviews as possible and then form your own opinion.

Is this game worth those scores?  In my opinion it is not, but given the advertising budget of EA it was going to get them anyway.

Not paid you say? Hmmmm Kane and Lynch, OOOPS 

To be fair, the reviewers are not paid by publishers. Their employers are.

OK, I will qualify.  In the main, reviewers are not paid (as in brown envelopes or anything like that).  I am sure there are some more shady practices around, but I won't comment on that.  If you had ever been on a publishers junket to promote a game, or been under pressure from your editor 'to go easy on the client' then you will understand what I mean.  When your salary depends on your editor, and your editor's salary depends on the owner, and their revenue depends on the advertising then there is bound to be a conflict of interest.  Also, you have to be a saint indeed not to want to go on the next junkett.

As I said before, you need to garner a cross section of opinion and then make your own decisions.

[Keele]

Fiery Specter wrote...

Keele wrote...

Fiery Specter wrote...

 The sad thing is that many of the fanboys on this site will ever admit that reviewers are giving good scores to this game because of monetary pressure.

You're all claims and nothing else.

Where is your evidence? 

Anyone with a lick of sense understands this.  Do you think EA will give  companies like OXM exclusives if they trash a game like this?  Seriously?  No, they give the exclusives to the companies who are willing to play ball.  And which magazines sell best, the ones get the early info.
I know you're getting all butt hurt, especially since you only joined this forum so you could wave the DA2 flag and all, but you need to get over the fact that your precious game is third rate quality.  The sooner you realize this the better off we'll all be.
Now run along before you embarrass yourself further.  

EVIDENCE, NOT CRAP.

[Russalka]

Was there not a troll call to spam negative reviews?

[Ixalmaris]

Russalka wrote...

Was there not a troll call to spam negative reviews?

There was also a call from Bioware in russia to spam positive reviews.

[WilliamShatner]

The problem with "professional reviewers" is that most of them make Dan Brown look like Hemingway. They are twenty-something losers with no life experience whatsoever.

Where's the Roger Ebert of the gaming industry? Where's the François Truffaut or Peter Bogdanovich, who were not only critics but became great and influential filmmakers themselves.

Where are the people heralding and championing the legacy of gaming?

Both game developers and reviewers seem more interested in taking down and dismissing previous games in order to make their current game look better than promote gaming as an artform.

Modifié par WilliamShatner, 12 mars 2011 - 10:52 .

[Russalka]

Then it means that user reviews are as worthless as professional ones. Okay, bye!

[Bhav]

epiccrabs wrote...

Bhav wrote...

epiccrabs wrote...

I agree, most if not all the reviews praised the game like it was a god-given game. Came the aftermath, now it seems more like reviews are paid.

So you think that EA would be paying people to write bad reviews about their games?

Or I just misunderstood something.

Have you seen the man with the GOLDEN VOICE?!?!?

On a serious note, are you blind? Haven't you seen what this game's reviews scores are
8.0 on gamespot
8.5 on IGN
94/100 on PC Gamer
92/100 on PC Trailers

The list could go on and on but what can I say to change the mind of fanboys?

I thought you meant that the negative user reviews in the aftermath were being paid lol.

[Jedra101]

Russalka wrote...

Was there not a troll call to spam negative reviews?

I believe this discussion was about how games are reviewed?  Besides, it's not a bad game in my opinion, just not a great one.

[Keele]

Ixalmaris wrote...

Keele wrote...

Ixalmaris wrote...

Keele wrote...

Fiery Specter wrote...

 The sad thing is that many of the fanboys on this site will ever admit that reviewers are giving good scores to this game because of monetary pressure.

You're all claims and nothing else.

Where is your evidence? 

Right next to the evidence of the 4chan raid on Metacritics.

Can't I have a discussion with your boyfriend without you popping in to lend him a hand? Jesus.

And as always, the clueless resort to personal attacks.
A pretty sure way to identify fanboys if you ask me.

You're right, perhaps I should've graced you with a legitimate response instead, but wait.. THERE WAS NOTHING TO RESPOND TO!

You don't counter a plea for evidence by asking for even more evidence, dumb ass.

[Drake Sigar]

Keele wrote...

Fiery Specter wrote...

Keele wrote...

Fiery Specter wrote...

 The sad thing is that many of the fanboys on this site will ever admit that reviewers are giving good scores to this game because of monetary pressure.

You're all claims and nothing else.

Where is your evidence? 

Anyone with a lick of sense understands this.  Do you think EA will give  companies like OXM exclusives if they trash a game like this?  Seriously?  No, they give the exclusives to the companies who are willing to play ball.  And which magazines sell best, the ones get the early info.
I know you're getting all butt hurt, especially since you only joined this forum so you could wave the DA2 flag and all, but you need to get over the fact that your precious game is third rate quality.  The sooner you realize this the better off we'll all be.
Now run along before you embarrass yourself further.  

EVIDENCE, NOT CRAP.

You’ll have to forgive the rudeness Keele, it’s just frustrating to see anyone at this stage still believes paid reviewers give an honest unbiased opinion as their affiliations become more and more blatant. It’s practically akin to believing pro wrestling is real. What about the example I gave earlier on?

Modifié par Drake Sigar, 12 mars 2011 - 10:55 .

[Fiery Specter]

Keele wrote...

Fiery Specter wrote...

Keele wrote...

Fiery Specter wrote...

 The sad thing is that many of the fanboys on this site will ever admit that reviewers are giving good scores to this game because of monetary pressure.

You're all claims and nothing else.

Where is your evidence? 

Anyone with a lick of sense understands this.  Do you think EA will give  companies like OXM exclusives if they trash a game like this?  Seriously?  No, they give the exclusives to the companies who are willing to play ball.  And which magazines sell best, the ones get the early info.
I know you're getting all butt hurt, especially since you only joined this forum so you could wave the DA2 flag and all, but you need to get over the fact that your precious game is third rate quality.  The sooner you realize this the better off we'll all be.
Now run along before you embarrass yourself further.  

EVIDENCE, NOT CRAP.

You do realize that if you had read the thread instead of following me around like an angry fanboy puppy you'd realize that the OP lists what your looking for.

[Jedra101]

Ixalmaris wrote...

Russalka wrote...

Was there not a troll call to spam negative reviews?

There was also a call from Bioware in russia to spam positive reviews.

Lol - I would make sure your door is locked after that comment!

[Keele]

Fiery Specter wrote...

Keele wrote...

Fiery Specter wrote...

Keele wrote...

Fiery Specter wrote...

 The sad thing is that many of the fanboys on this site will ever admit that reviewers are giving good scores to this game because of monetary pressure.

You're all claims and nothing else.

Where is your evidence? 

Anyone with a lick of sense understands this.  Do you think EA will give  companies like OXM exclusives if they trash a game like this?  Seriously?  No, they give the exclusives to the companies who are willing to play ball.  And which magazines sell best, the ones get the early info.
I know you're getting all butt hurt, especially since you only joined this forum so you could wave the DA2 flag and all, but you need to get over the fact that your precious game is third rate quality.  The sooner you realize this the better off we'll all be.
Now run along before you embarrass yourself further.  

EVIDENCE, NOT CRAP.

You do realize that if you had read the thread instead of following me around like an angry fanboy puppy you'd realize that the OP lists what your looking for.

No, you see, idiot, that doesn't work here.

YOUR CLAIM IS THAT BIOWARE HAS PAID REVIEWERS.