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[mase9975]

Eh, as long as everyone is naked with a beer in their hand who cares.

[Rixxencaxx]

Brahmg wrote...

Rixxencaxx wrote...

Brahmg wrote...

MPSai wrote...

Brahmg wrote...

 Romance was not what I was looking for when I purchased DA2, and getting hit with it from almost every single char in the game really just makes the storyline taxing.

So don't pursue a romance, I'm still not getting how they're forced on you. I didn't pursue any romances with my female elf mage in Origins, its not hard to avoid completely. Conversely, on my male dalish elf rogue I had planned to romance Morrigan but ended up with Zevran simply because he was a much more interesting character, and his romance plot is a compelling character arc. There's alot of stories and character development that can be done with romances, and a large reason why people enjoy Bioware games IS the characters. 

I understand you are having a hard time seeing this and I guess this is just something we won't agree on. If you play the game as I have I find myself often choosing options that I do not believe fit the situation at hand as the TONE of the option is Romance, not the CONTEXT of the response.

and as far as bioware game.. as somebody who wasted way to much of his life playing nwnwlala for far to long.. Bioware games are nothing more then a gaming engine, YOU are the characters.

omg...you are offended by a bunch of pixels that flirt with you......judging from this life out of your sleeping room could be very creepy

Child, I'm not offended. I said it takes away from the experience in the game. It's not what I'm looking for when I purchase a title called Dragon Age 2. Trust me, I've done some ****ed up ****.

it is optional content...that said....bye...this discussion doesn't deserve to be continued...

Modifié par Rixxencaxx, 13 mars 2011 - 12:02 .

[RefundPlz]

Akitainu28 wrote...

I have not seen a gay man walk down the street and hit on every man he comes across. Have you? Or is Kirkwall one big gay bar? Lets make it easier for the gay AI shell we? So they can find a receptive counterparts for there advances.

Best suggestion I heard here is to have an option to pick your sexually at character creator! Brilliant a must for DA3! Much betta idea then my on/off option. Makes everyone happy and is less offencive to the "gay community that plays video games". I hope they do not have a problem with and option of picking ones sexuality right that what they are all about. Thus I get bit confused with all the argument against freedom of choice in this thread.


I do not get Biowares hard line position. It saying that some are more equal then others. Fighting for the freedoms of some by encroaching on freedoms of others.


In DA2 issue not solved at all by given marking the option that makes you flirt. Simply because this option pop up in every single conversation you have with that character. You have to watch out for it not to press it by mistake. You are forced to read it. Its annoying being forced to declare your self and say NO all the time by not pressing that text line. Its annoying

Its same as a chick in a bar being hassled by a guy that just cant take NO for an answer. If she for forced to avoid flirting with him as much as you are forced in the DA2 she would called the cops on him by now!

Problem is as well there no option to say NO I do not what flirtation, option to break his hart makes you get tons of negative points. Thus you being punished for not being gay.
Just give people an option to pick sexuality during character creation. SIMPLE!

As well DA2 does not sell in USA only, world is not shaped by the power of certain lobbyist in the congress. Something to take into consideration.

Exactly.

Now take everything you just said and remember thatr this game was supposed to be made for the early teen COD market and roll that around in your mind for a minute.

Yeah.

Lets not even begin to get into Merrils age because.. how old is she?  Oh well thats a different topic entirely.

[Akitainu28]

AngelicMachinery wrote...

Being bisexual is awesome sauce, everyone should try it.

Sure!  You should try 2girls1cup, its awsome as well?  Following same logic

Modifié par Akitainu28, 13 mars 2011 - 12:08 .

[Brahmg]

MPSai wrote...


So you're saying romances are forced on you because you're obsessed with maxing out approval ratings? That's... kind of your own problem dude. Personally I like how the characters come across as, you know, people, people who you can't please all of the time and who won't always agree with you.

You right, who would have ever thought I'd like the party i'm about go fight some dragon with to be a well oiled fighting machine. You right it's much more important that my healer is playing favorite with my rogue because of a budding romance and ignoring my mage because she has flat chested, shy and ackward. You've proved me wrong in the face of great battle romantic strife and invlovment is much more subitlbe setting then training and battle readyness. I much prefer not being able equipmenet my teamate with piles of now unusable loot that I find.. As long as I can bed that dreamy eyed elf before the world is envlolvmped with darkspawn.. Hey maybe in DA3 I Can port my couple over and adopt a qunari, and better yet maybe I can port my chars from DA2 over to the SIMS Hightown addition! 

Modifié par Brahmg, 13 mars 2011 - 12:08 .

[Taura-Tierno]

NotFrom4chan wrote...

Taura-Tierno wrote...

So I should have the option of choosing whether or not straight romances should be included, if I wanted to? Or whether or not I want to have that chantry in the game or not, because I dislike religion? (I don't dislike religion, for the record, but it'd be the same thing, on a bit bigger scale)

What if the game penalised you for not adopting the Muslim faith in-game? Would you have a problem with that? It is disingenous to claim that homosexuality is no longer a controversial issue. Bioware are pushing the boundaries of what is acceptable in contemporary media by doing this, surely that is obvious to everyone.

Since there's no Islam in the game, I'd consider it a bit of a problem, yeah. 

How controversial homosexuality is, depends on where you're from. Where I live, being gay is pretty noncontroversial; people don't really care either way, mostly. But yeah, I know it's very controversial in some places. Who's claimed otherwise? 

I applaude Bioware for pushing the boundaries. 

[Brahmg]

Rixxencaxx wrote...


it is optional content...that said....bye...this discussion doesn't deserve to be continued...

Oh thank you, I'm glad you gave me permission to end this conversation. Very mature of you.

[Akitainu28]

RefundPlz wrote...

Akitainu28 wrote...

I have not seen a gay man walk down the street and hit on every man he comes across. Have you? Or is Kirkwall one big gay bar? Lets make it easier for the gay AI shell we? So they can find a receptive counterparts for there advances.

Best suggestion I heard here is to have an option to pick your sexually at character creator! Brilliant a must for DA3! Much betta idea then my on/off option. Makes everyone happy and is less offencive to the "gay community that plays video games". I hope they do not have a problem with and option of picking ones sexuality right that what they are all about. Thus I get bit confused with all the argument against freedom of choice in this thread.


I do not get Biowares hard line position. It saying that some are more equal then others. Fighting for the freedoms of some by encroaching on freedoms of others.


In DA2 issue not solved at all by given marking the option that makes you flirt. Simply because this option pop up in every single conversation you have with that character. You have to watch out for it not to press it by mistake. You are forced to read it. Its annoying being forced to declare your self and say NO all the time by not pressing that text line. Its annoying

Its same as a chick in a bar being hassled by a guy that just cant take NO for an answer. If she for forced to avoid flirting with him as much as you are forced in the DA2 she would called the cops on him by now!

Problem is as well there no option to say NO I do not what flirtation, option to break his hart makes you get tons of negative points. Thus you being punished for not being gay.
Just give people an option to pick sexuality during character creation. SIMPLE!

As well DA2 does not sell in USA only, world is not shaped by the power of certain lobbyist in the congress. Something to take into consideration.

Exactly.

Now take everything you just said and remember thatr this game was supposed to be made for the early teen COD market and roll that around in your mind for a minute.

Yeah.

Lets not even begin to get into Merrils age because.. how old is she?  Oh well thats a different topic entirely.

Lol exactly Merril!

[Kattack]

I'm pretty surprised that there are complaints about the romance in the second game.

At least you never accidentally ended up in a relationship with anyone this time around. In DAO I somehow ended up in a relationship with Alistair, Lelianna, AND Zevran by the end of the game. The only one of the three that I'd actually chased was Alistair. I didn't even know I'd accidentally stumbled into romance with the other two until I was confronted by Alistair about my 'relationship' with Zev (which is ridiculous, the guy probably has STDs, so not touching that) and then in the prologue when Lelianna asked something like, "what happens to us now". O_o
I was SO GLAD that it was easy to avoid that mess in this one.

Also, the four bisexual options could be coincidence. I mean, I've got three close friends and guess what? Only one of them is straight. And I'm straight so it's not like there's any reason it would have turned out like that.

Though I figured it was just a nice way of giving everyone the option to do any of the characters they wanted. Especially since Anders seemed pretty obviously straight in Awakening. (You know, that line about wanting a pretty girl? Yeah that doesn't say bisexual to me.) I think it might be weird to play through as a guy and have him hit on me after that, but that's more of a character complaint that nobody else seemed to see so maybe it's just me.

Also, maybe because I played through as a chick, but I never ended up stuck with NOTHING but heart or broken heart options until after I managed to get Anders into my room. And getting him INTO my room involved actually persuing him. So I don't understand that logic at all. Just don't select the heart options.

Modifié par Kattack, 13 mars 2011 - 12:11 .

[Pixieking]

MPSai wrote...

So you're saying romances are forced on you because you're obsessed with maxing out approval ratings? That's... kind of your own problem dude.

Metagaming. He's complaining, because he wants to meta it to get max approval, but doesn't want the consequences of his actions.

[NotFrom4chan]

AngelicMachinery wrote...

Being bisexual is awesome sauce, everyone should try it.

Luckily we have Bioware games for just that!

It adds a whole new dimension to role-playing: "Today I'm going to be a mage...a fabulous mage!"*

*no homophobia intended

[Pixieking]

NotFrom4chan wrote...

AngelicMachinery wrote...

Being bisexual is awesome sauce, everyone should try it.

Luckily we have Bioware games for just that!

It adds a whole new dimension to role-playing: "Today I'm going to be a mage...a fabulous mage!"*

*no homophobia intended

Dahhhhhhling I love those robes.

[untoldsarcasm]

More equal than others? Because we want representation and some semblance of equality? How can you be more equal anyway? That doesn't even make sense.

I'm done with the topic now. I can't deal with the sheer ignorance anymore.
 

[Brahmg]

Emoking wrote...

MPSai wrote...

So you're saying romances are forced on you because you're obsessed with maxing out approval ratings? That's... kind of your own problem dude.

Metagaming. He's complaining, because he wants to meta it to get max approval, but doesn't want the consequences of his actions.

No I'm complaining because the options that make the most sense from a context point of view, have a romantic tone, and these options continue to perisist despite my intital rejections.

Don't you take that weaksauce "meta" cop out.  What next are you going to start typing OOC before you posts.

[Chris Priestly]

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