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The first year of the decade is X1. There is no 0 to start. So the full ten years would start 1st January 2011 and end on 31 December 2020.


So you didnt celebrate the milennia change at 2000, but 2001? Lol, you are so wrong.


Thanks for being mature about this. Smooth.

The 21st century is the current century of the Anno Domini era or the Common Era in accordance with the Gregorian calendar. It began on January 1, 2001 and will end on December 31, 2100.


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Ascorius wrote...

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The first year of the decade is X1. There is no 0 to start. So the full ten years would start 1st January 2011 and end on 31 December 2020.


So you didnt celebrate the milennia change at 2000, but 2001? Lol, you are so wrong.


Nope he(she?)'s right. Technically the new millennium DID start On January 1st 2001. Everyone had their big millennium celebrations a year early.
Think about your age. Say you're 25. That means you been alive for 25 years and are now in your 26th year...
Not so with years. Since there was no year 0, 25AD means we were IN the 25th year.
And you have to complete the tenth year to make the decade.
So yeah, this decade we're in (whatever it's called. Please don't say it's the 'teenies') began Jan 1st 2011.

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Actually, he's absolutely right. As someone else pointed out, there was no such thing as "year 0", but the big milelnium celebrations were held a year early because 2000 is a sexier number, and doing it in 2001 would have required endless (and probably pointless) attempts to explain things to the ignorant.

This.


Actually, even Torchlight on XBLA got a better metacritic score than Dragon Age II on 360...

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It's a play on words to get media attention because as many have stated, we're only in the third month of this decade so far (there was no year zero, so don't even start with me :P).


No the decade started 1 year and 3 months ago. 2011 is obviously 1 year into the new decade. Its not like the next decade will start in 2021.

So all the games from 2010 has to be taken into account.

Gregorian calendar, the time scheme western civilizations use, does not have a year zero.  It went directly from 1 B.C. to 1 A.D.  A decade is 10 years, 1+10=11.  Each subsequent decade thus starts on the 1 and ends on the 10.  There is no room for interpretation here.  Hell, even the Julian calendar had no year zero.


Doesnt matter, mate. Thats not how it is used today. The millennia changed at 2000, not 2001... most of the western world agreed upon that.

Doesn't mean that they're right.  I see 2000 as an epoch, personally, with 2001 marking the start of  the millennium.


I work in publishing, and editing is a big part of the job (using correct language etc). And if the meaning of a word changes for the general public it becomes correct even though it differs from its original meaning. The general conception of a decade is now 0-9 (much because of the use of 70's an 80's etc), therefore it is correct. This is how language changes over time and different norms become correct.

Modifié par Ascorius, 12 mars 2011 - 04:58 .


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50 hours to finish? Uuuuuh....

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I like pc gamer I'm a subscriber. Its hard to go by what they review in their mag though. A lot of the time their reviews don't really feel genuine. I would think it does have something to do with magazines having a harder time trying to get subscribers/advertising in the age of the internet.

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Ascorius wrote...

I work in publishing, and editing is a big part of the job (using correct language etc). And if the meaning of a word changes for the general public it becomes correct even though it differs from its original meaning. The general conception of a decade is now 0-9 (much because of the use of 70's an 80's etc), therefore it is correct. This is how language changes over time and different norms become correct.


So the general concept of the first decade AD is that it lasted only 9 years?

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I will simply make a mental note to disregard all of PC Gamer's reviews in the future.

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given the fact that this decade is only about 3 months old I'd take a claim of that with a huge grain of salt... to my knowledge there isnt even a verdict on last decade's best RPG and there were quite a few rather special ones, no?

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WHY are you suprised ? money runs the world ! .

Some one has the money ,and some one wants that money.

= The Best RPG of this decade
The best RPG combat ever

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Ferretinabun wrote...

Ascorius wrote...

I work in publishing, and editing is a big part of the job (using correct language etc). And if the meaning of a word changes for the general public it becomes correct even though it differs from its original meaning. The general conception of a decade is now 0-9 (much because of the use of 70's an 80's etc), therefore it is correct. This is how language changes over time and different norms become correct.


So the general concept of the first decade AD is that it lasted only 9 years?


No, people will count a year 0 which is the more logical choice if you view it according to how we count how old we are. You don't start at 1 year, you start at 0.

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Ascorius wrote...

Ferretinabun wrote...

Ascorius wrote...

I work in publishing, and editing is a big part of the job (using correct language etc). And if the meaning of a word changes for the general public it becomes correct even though it differs from its original meaning. The general conception of a decade is now 0-9 (much because of the use of 70's an 80's etc), therefore it is correct. This is how language changes over time and different norms become correct.


So the general concept of the first decade AD is that it lasted only 9 years?


No, people will count a year 0 which is the more logical choice if you view it according to how we count how old we are. You don't start at 1 year, you start at 0.


Except that there really isn't a Year 0, unless we are currently only in 2010.

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*sigh* We are over a year into this decade, not three months. The twenty-first century began on 1-1-2000. That was over eleven years ago, not ten. Maybe that will clarify things better for people.

Added: The year 2000 would be your "year zero" of the 21st century.

Modifié par ColdbringeR, 12 mars 2011 - 05:08 .


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Considering we're all of a year and three months into this decade that isn't saying much.

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To repeat what's been stated, they don't mean it literally by saying it's the best RPG of the decade. What they do mean is that it's the best RPG of the decade so far; that is, for the past several months, which is a reasonable assessment since there has hardly been an RPG since the beginning of this decade.

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When skyrim and the witcher 2 comes out we will see.... this game is not so Awesome afrer all

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Ascorius wrote...

Ferretinabun wrote...

Ascorius wrote...

I work in publishing, and editing is a big part of the job (using correct language etc). And if the meaning of a word changes for the general public it becomes correct even though it differs from its original meaning. The general conception of a decade is now 0-9 (much because of the use of 70's an 80's etc), therefore it is correct. This is how language changes over time and different norms become correct.


So the general concept of the first decade AD is that it lasted only 9 years?


No, people will count a year 0 which is the more logical choice if you view it according to how we count how old we are. You don't start at 1 year, you start at 0.


Amitar's right. It is not a matter of opinion that there was no year 0, it is a matter of fact. There wasn't. This 1 AD was the first year AD. So 10A D has to be the last year of the first decade.

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Seeing as there are no other RPG's out yet PC gamer is confirmed for ****** status.

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I agree! This game is amazing!

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BobSmith101 wrote...

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DA2 is the best RPG of the decade at the moment. Great story, great action, almost perfect balance between the two. There is a lot of open sobbing on the forums right now, but positive change (which this is) always has detractors.


Explain this "great story" would you? I'm really having trouble finding it under all the pointless sidequests.


I'm wondering this myself, this is the first bioware game i've ever finished and been literally completely "meh" about it. The story was awful, the characters umemorable, and the overall plot as far from "epic" as it can get. We won't even dive in to how "improved" the combat system is.

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PC Gamer had to give it a good review, they got the PC exlucisve review deal from EA, they reviewed it before alot of publications, this means that they cant really call it garbage. Yes, bought and sold.

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Amitar wrote...

Ascorius wrote...

Ferretinabun wrote...

Ascorius wrote...

I work in publishing, and editing is a big part of the job (using correct language etc). And if the meaning of a word changes for the general public it becomes correct even though it differs from its original meaning. The general conception of a decade is now 0-9 (much because of the use of 70's an 80's etc), therefore it is correct. This is how language changes over time and different norms become correct.


So the general concept of the first decade AD is that it lasted only 9 years?


No, people will count a year 0 which is the more logical choice if you view it according to how we count how old we are. You don't start at 1 year, you start at 0.


Except that there really isn't a Year 0, unless we are currently only in 2010.


And then we come back to the general conception of a meaning becoming correct. Call it B.C. 1 or year 0, there was a year before year 1 and people percieve that year as part of the first decade.

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Ferretinabun wrote...

Amitar's right. It is not a matter of opinion that there was no year 0, it is a matter of fact. There wasn't. This 1 AD was the first year AD. So 10A D has to be the last year of the first decade.


All it means is the first decade of history only had 9 actual years. We don't offset every other decade/century/millenium in history in order to make up for this miniscule fact.

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electroban wrote...

PC Gamer had to give it a good review, they got the PC exlucisve review deal from EA, they reviewed it before alot of publications, this means that they cant really call it garbage. Yes, bought and sold.


Sadly, this is probably spot on.

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"The Best RPG of this decade? Says PC Gamer"

The best RPG of the decade?  It's 2011!  You lose all credibility when you say something like that.  At least with me you do.


He just said that's what PC Gamer thinks. Are you just blind or...?

I was talking about PC Gamer, there hero.  Capiche?