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[DPR Raptor]

WHAT?!?!?!? Well, the new decade started on January 1, 2011, just as the new millennium actually started on January 1, 2001, so technically that statement is true. It, however will be the 3rd best RPG of THIS YEAR. Skyrim will poop on it and MAYBE ME3 will if BioWare doesn't regress any further (which pains me to think because I've never anticipated a game more than ME3).

This just shows how the hype machine is drawing at straws where there are none.

[contextual_entity]

Ascorius wrote...

Amitar wrote...

Ascorius wrote...

Ferretinabun wrote...

Ascorius wrote...

I work in publishing, and editing is a big part of the job (using correct language etc). And if the meaning of a word changes for the general public it becomes correct even though it differs from its original meaning. The general conception of a decade is now 0-9 (much because of the use of 70's an 80's etc), therefore it is correct. This is how language changes over time and different norms become correct.

So the general concept of the first decade AD is that it lasted only 9 years?

No, people will count a year 0 which is the more logical choice if you view it according to how we count how old we are. You don't start at 1 year, you start at 0.

Except that there really isn't a Year 0, unless we are currently only in 2010.

And then we come back to the general conception of a meaning becoming correct. Call it B.C. 1 or year 0, there was a year before year 1 and people percieve that year as part of the first decade.

Then people are wrong. The Gregorian Calandar starts at 1AD this is an established fact, it's not a matter of opinion or concencus.

[passionata]

PC Gamer is right if they say it is the best game of a decade without clarifying what they meant:
http://translate.goo.../Dekade&prev=_t (sorry the english page is crap)

A decade (from Ancient Greek δεκάς (Dekas), root δεκάδ (Decade) "number ten", "family of ten") refers to

in Ancient Egypt, a week, see decade (Ancient Egypt)
a period of ten days
in the decadal structured Republican calendar , the equivalent of one week

And they obiously could not have ment the timespan of 10 years because then they would have to write that Neverwinter Nights was the best game of that decade. Just saying because that is my subjective opinion opposed to theirs

Modifié par passionata, 12 mars 2011 - 05:31 .

[Ferretinabun]

ColdbringeR wrote...

Ferretinabun wrote...

Amitar's right. It is not a matter of opinion that there was no year 0, it is a matter of fact. There wasn't. This 1 AD was the first year AD. So 10A D has to be the last year of the first decade.

All it means is the first decade of history only had 9 actual years. We don't offset every other decade/century/millenium in history in order to make of for this miniscule fact.

The first decade WAS only 9 years?
Hmmm, on the face of it that seems to me like an absurdity.
Instinctively, yes, I can see that people would want to call, say 1980 as part of the 80's decade rather than the 70's decade. It seems to be logical on first glance because the third digit says 8, not 7.
But a little thought shows how our perceptions are not always logically correct.

[Ascorius]

Amitar wrote...

Ascorius wrote...

Amitar wrote...

Ascorius wrote...

Ferretinabun wrote...

Ascorius wrote...

I work in publishing, and editing is a big part of the job (using correct language etc). And if the meaning of a word changes for the general public it becomes correct even though it differs from its original meaning. The general conception of a decade is now 0-9 (much because of the use of 70's an 80's etc), therefore it is correct. This is how language changes over time and different norms become correct.

So the general concept of the first decade AD is that it lasted only 9 years?

No, people will count a year 0 which is the more logical choice if you view it according to how we count how old we are. You don't start at 1 year, you start at 0.

Except that there really isn't a Year 0, unless we are currently only in 2010.

And then we come back to the general conception of a meaning becoming correct. Call it B.C. 1 or year 0, there was a year before year 1 and people percieve that year as part of the first decade.

Then people are wrong. The Gregorian Calandar starts at 1AD this is an established fact, it's not a matter of opinion or concencus.

No, you are wrong. There was even a lot of discussion if the milennia change should have been celebrated in 2001 or 2000, and in those countries were they did celebrate it at 2000 it as seen as a precedence.

When they started the Gregorian calendar the number 0 wasn't invented. And now that we have year 0 (and year 0 is actually used by many historians today), we cannot  discount the fact that starting a decade at 1 is highly illogical.

General perceptions set precedence in language. I can fret all I want about the word bag actually means a wooden container (the original meaning), but I would be wrong since the concencus is different.

[Bhav]

I think this is the best RPG of the decade so far:

www.youtube.com/watch 

[fl0wers]

electroban wrote...

PC Gamer had to give it a good review, they got the PC exlucisve review deal from EA, they reviewed it before alot of publications, this means that they cant really call it garbage. Yes, bought and sold.

Couldn't it be that some people (including the reviewer) simply disagree with your view of the game? I'm only about 23 hours in (I'm in Act 2) and I think it's a great game so far. Sure, I have issues with it, but I can't think of a single game that was without flaw and was able to cater perfectly to everyone who played it. There are many people who think the game is excellent. Simply because you don't like the game or agree with the review doesn't mean it was "bought and sold." 

[Csec_2]

Who's PC Gamer? That doesn't matter. They don't know a thing

Modifié par Csec_2, 12 mars 2011 - 05:34 .

[Bhav]

Csec_2 wrote...

Who's PC Gamer?

Some brown stuff in my toilet that smells.

[slimgrin]

Any review that so casually tosses superlatives around raises a red flag for me.

Best combat EVVVAAARR!!!

Best RPG of the WHOLE DECADE!!!!

BEST GAME EVARRRR!!! WE give it a WHOPPING 11/10!!!!!

[The_Illusive]

ColdbringeR wrote...

You miss the point. He chopped the line all to pieces in order to incite another uproar in troll-town. He quoted "the best RPG of the decade" as if it were a statement, when it was a hypothetical question. Maybe you should read more carefully.

Nope, you're wrong. Note that he quoted it as a question. He also said "That's what the PC Gamer thinks". Plus, he linked to the PC Gamer review. You obviously don't know what a troll is

[nubbers666]

da2 is far from being the best rpg of the decade i give it a 35 on Metacritic score lol

[HighFlyingDwarf]

Chewin3 wrote...
(that's a joke)

[Balderhagen]

im a PC Gamer subscriber, and i realy think they got some "economical help" from EA writing the DAO II review

[Csec_2]

Bhav wrote...

Csec_2 wrote...

Who's PC Gamer?

Some brown stuff in my toilet that smells.

I accept that statement, sir

[ColdbringeR]

Ferretinabun wrote...

ColdbringeR wrote...

Ferretinabun wrote...

Amitar's right. It is not a matter of opinion that there was no year 0, it is a matter of fact. There wasn't. This 1 AD was the first year AD. So 10A D has to be the last year of the first decade.

All it means is the first decade of history only had 9 actual years. We don't offset every other decade/century/millenium in history in order to make of for this miniscule fact.

The first decade WAS only 9 years?
Hmmm, on the face of it that seems to me like an absurdity.
Instinctively, yes, I can see that people would want to call, say 1980 as part of the
80's decade rather than the 70's decade. It seems to be logical on first glance because the third digit says 8, not 7. But a little thought shows how our perceptions are not always logically correct.

I'm not saying you are wrong in that there was no year zero. I'm simply saying that people don't offset everything after that when referring to periods of time. The flaw was in starting a time scale at year 1, which makes no sense since 365 days hadn't passed yet. This is where the absurdity comes from. It's currently more practical to assume that the first year of the first decade was the year before year 1 (year zero, so to speak). We can do this, because year 1 is just some arbitrary starting point christians pulled out of their ass in the first place.

Modifié par ColdbringeR, 12 mars 2011 - 05:45 .

[Merced652]

Bhav wrote...

I think this is the best RPG of the decade so far:

www.youtube.com/watch 

I really liked magicka, was certainly worth the 10 dollars steam has it up for.

[Lady Luck]

JohnnyDollar wrote...

Blue_2 wrote...

JohnnyDollar wrote...

"The Best RPG of this decade? Says PC Gamer"

The best RPG of the decade?  It's 2011!  You lose all credibility when you say something like that.  At least with me you do.

He just said that's what PC Gamer thinks. Are you just blind or...?

I was talking about PC Gamer, there hero.  Capiche?

Capiche

[Armatyr]

i want the game theyre playing couse its sure not dragon age 2

[ColdbringeR]

The_Illusive wrote...

ColdbringeR wrote...

You miss the point. He chopped the line all to pieces in order to incite another uproar in troll-town. He quoted "the best RPG of the decade" as if it were a statement, when it was a hypothetical question. Maybe you should read more carefully.

Nope, you're wrong. Note that he quoted it as a question.

This is not a question:

Chewin3 wrote...

"The Best RPG of this decade"

It's a string of words taken (out of context) from a sentence that was a question.

Do people often think that you are retarded?

ColdbringeR wrote...

"you are retarded"

[slimgrin]

 
NeoGAF loves DA2 as well...

http://www.neogaf.co...ad.php?t=422971

Modifié par slimgrin, 12 mars 2011 - 05:49 .

[The_Illusive]

My review for DA II was something like this

[The_Illusive]

ColdbringeR wrote...

The_Illusive wrote...

ColdbringeR wrote...

You miss the point. He chopped the line all to pieces in order to incite another uproar in troll-town. He quoted "the best RPG of the decade" as if it were a statement, when it was a hypothetical question. Maybe you should read more carefully.

Nope, you're wrong. Note that he quoted it as a question.

This is not a question:

Chewin3 wrote...

"The Best RPG of this decade"

It's a string of words taken (out of context) from a sentence that was a question.

Do people often think that you are retarded?

ColdbringeR wrote...

"you are retarded"

*sigh* Could you please look at the topic of this thread?

[Ferretinabun]

ColdbringeR wrote...

I'm not saying you are wrong in that there was no year zero. I'm simply saying that people don't offset everything after that when referring to periods of time.

If there was no year 0 and 1980-1989 is a decade, then somewhere a year has gone missing. That just maths. 

The flaw was in starting a time scale at year 1, which makes no sense since 365 days hadn't passed yet.

You can consider it a flaw. Nevertheless it was done. 

This is where the absurdity comes from. It's currently more practical to assume that the first year of the first decade was the year before year 1 (year zero, so to speak). We can do this, because year 1 is just some arbitrary starting point christians pulled out of their ass in the first place.

Are you suggesting we reassign years? Rewrite 1BC as Year 0, have 2BC as 1BC, etc,...?
Yes it is indeed possible for us to do that, because yes, our numbering system is arbitrary. Nevertheless, it is the one we have, and in it the first year (AD) was 1 AD, which means the first year of the second decade was 11AD.

[DrunkenMagicianNL]

I don't think The Witcher 2 will be the game of the decade, but I sure as hell think it will be the best rpg of the year, maybe even the coming two or three years. If only Bioware improved upon Origins instead of dumbing it down....

Link to the official trailer of The Witcher 2
Link to the gameplay trailer of The Witcher 2

Modifié par DrunkenMagicianNL, 12 mars 2011 - 05:59 .