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[mfmaxpower]

10+ hours in and while DA2 is an enjoyable RPG, it seems to be a pretty shallow RPG.

Seems to me people are pissed because DA:O seemed to be a return to a hardcore RPG but DA2, like ME2, is a RPG-lite. Not a bad thing itself necessarily, but not what the hardcore fanbase wants.

[Vasparian]

I'm sorry but any place that thinks DA2 is the best rpg of the last decade... That site is just delusional.

[Atardecer]

PC Gamer = Cash for Comment

[JanHenDAO]

Yes, until the next DA comes out.

Modifié par JanHenDAO, 13 mars 2011 - 02:04 .

[Nozybidaj]

The best RPG of this decade? Nine more years will tell, but for now, yes.

Hehe, so basically he is saying it is the best RPG of the last 2 1/2 months? 

[Athro]

mfmaxpower wrote...

10+ hours in and while DA2 is an enjoyable RPG, it seems to be a pretty shallow RPG.

Seems to me people are pissed because DA:O seemed to be a return to a hardcore RPG but DA2, like ME2, is a RPG-lite. Not a bad thing itself necessarily, but not what the hardcore fanbase wants.

I'm curious to know - what is shallow about it?

The fact that Hawke's dialogue options and lines are different in your game than they are in the game of someone playing him differently?

That every quest is subtlely foreshadowing an aspect of the greater storyline? From rumours about Meredith, to stories about mages, templars, loyalty, knowing one's place, chaos, order... 

Or that everything from which allies you take on which quest can change what options become available to you while on the quest, and whether that character will become a friend or rival?

Or that levelling your character isn't as simple as just levelling up any old power but requires thought about the tactics you set for the entire party?

Please. Where is the shallow nature of this game?

Because, while there are some faults, being shallow IMO is not one of them.

C.

[Jarys]

nothing constructive to say, the guy in the first post that said 'dumping down' instead of 'dumbing down' made me lol though :]

[Varus Torvyn]

I purchased DA2 because it's a BioWare RPG.

I'm enjoying the game, although I have to admit they overdid it in some of the quests - omg at the number of enemies you have to kill.

There was one side-quest I just flat did a "Load Game" to leave it, it was too difficult, even with my party at Level 21.

[daemon1129]

Athro wrote...

mfmaxpower wrote...

10+ hours in and while DA2 is an enjoyable RPG, it seems to be a pretty shallow RPG.

Seems to me people are pissed because DA:O seemed to be a return to a hardcore RPG but DA2, like ME2, is a RPG-lite. Not a bad thing itself necessarily, but not what the hardcore fanbase wants.

I'm curious to know - what is shallow about it?

The fact that Hawke's dialogue options and lines are different in your game than they are in the game of someone playing him differently?

That every quest is subtlely foreshadowing an aspect of the greater storyline? From rumours about Meredith, to stories about mages, templars, loyalty, knowing one's place, chaos, order... 

Or that everything from which allies you take on which quest can change what options become available to you while on the quest, and whether that character will become a friend or rival?

Or that levelling your character isn't as simple as just levelling up any old power but requires thought about the tactics you set for the entire party?

Please. Where is the shallow nature of this game?

Because, while there are some faults, being shallow IMO is not one of them.

C.

As much as I am disapointed with DA2, I agree with you.  It is not a shallow game at all. It is just lame compare to its predecessor.

[StonerMkII]

The_Illusive wrote...

My review for DA II was something like this

Got to be the greatest review of a game ive ever seen.

[kozzy420420]

Its a great rpg, I dont think best ever, but its a very very good game.

[blueruin]

When I read that PCGamer quote, I thought that it had to be a tongue-in-cheek and over the top comment that he wrote just entertain himself -- maybe even hinting to readers that the rest of the review that preceded it was also utter rubbish. We are not even three months into the decade, and any decent reviewer with the least bit of editorial sense would not be so stupid as to seriously make that claim about a game yet. Right?

[Redhot_1]

Athro wrote...

mfmaxpower wrote...

10+ hours in and while DA2 is an enjoyable RPG, it seems to be a pretty shallow RPG.

Seems to me people are pissed because DA:O seemed to be a return to a hardcore RPG but DA2, like ME2, is a RPG-lite. Not a bad thing itself necessarily, but not what the hardcore fanbase wants.

I'm curious to know - what is shallow about it?

The fact that Hawke's dialogue options and lines are different in your game than they are in the game of someone playing him differently?

That every quest is subtlely foreshadowing an aspect of the greater storyline? From rumours about Meredith, to stories about mages, templars, loyalty, knowing one's place, chaos, order... 

Or that everything from which allies you take on which quest can change what options become available to you while on the quest, and whether that character will become a friend or rival?

Or that levelling your character isn't as simple as just levelling up any old power but requires thought about the tactics you set for the entire party?

Please. Where is the shallow nature of this game?

Because, while there are some faults, being shallow IMO is not one of them.

C.

The game is just being dumped down. People hate it 'cause it's not anything like DA:O. They don't see the full picture

[Saber Wolf]

^And what exactly would be the full picture?

[Redhot_1]

- The graphics are really good (seriously, I can't understand why people doesn't see it)
- Story is great. It's a shame that not much of your decisions matter, but it still great
- Fightig is awesome. Feels like God of War
- Dialogue is kinda dull when you can't see what your saying, but you'll live with it.

And there much more

[Vaern Sul]

Dragon Age 2 is the best RPG of this decade.

Of course that's like saying it's the most important electron in a hydrogen atom.

(Cookies for the reference)

[Cortyman]

It is the year 2019

And people will still be reminiscing on how awesome Dragon Age 2 was! Lets play it again!

[Anathemic]

I found a bottle of brandy, a quest initiates? What?

[this isnt my name]

It wont even get the title rpg of the year when skyrim is released.

[ickayR]

Both Me2 & FO:NV were complete step backwards. Me2 had no wiggle room & was pretty much an action adventure. FO:NV had little to no improvements & has game destroying bugs. 2010 & early 2011,mist depressing time for games. Every sequel was bad,DS2,Crysis 2,DA2,FO:NV,ME2,the list goes on.

Hopefully Witcher 2 steps it's **** up & lives up to Witcher 1.

Bioware & Bethesda have had horrible years so far.

[vorpalchicken]

Well I think looking at metacritic says it all, Critic's giving it around 81%, while user reviews (at the time of writing this post) sat at 4 (or 40% to make it comparable to the critics review) in total 137 positive reviews, 38 mixed and 396 negative ones.

How come there's such a HUGE gap between what the average punter thinks of the game and what the Critics are scoring it? Did they play a differant game to us?

[Myounage]

Didn't Baldur's Gate II come out in 2000? Damn did they cut it close. No way in hell this approaches Mask of The Betrayer though, even if that isn't a Bioware game.

[KuramaBingyi09]

Vaern Sul wrote...

Dragon Age 2 is the best RPG of this decade.

Of course that's like saying it's the most important electron in a hydrogen atom.

(Cookies for the reference)

Hah. I get it.

Because there's only one electron in a Hydrogen atom.

You're so clever.

[Whyp_2]

Are you serious!!? PC Gamer...you're full of crap

[Lady Luck]

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