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[Spaceweed10]

Beertastic wrote...

Spaceweed10 wrote...

Beertastic wrote...

I haven't used it myself, but I've heard (from friends) that it runs games like crap. A lot of crashes and bad performance apparently (take that for it's worth, my FRIENDS words, not my own).

You and your 'friends', know sh!t.

I changed from Vista to W7 when the beta version came out, and it's night and day.  Don't comment on stuff you clearly know zero about, sunshine.

Are you blind? I said my friends had told me it wasn't running games well (namely World of Warcraft and a few other titles) and they were continually getting CTDs.

I never said it was my OWN opinion or stating I knew better then he himself, I was simply giving him the input of my friends and told him to take it for what it's worth.

Perhaps if you weren't so far up your own arse that you feel the need to put others down on the net you wouldn't feel so defensive over an operating system.

'WoW' players - that answers so many questions.  Thank you for clarifying.

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[Beertastic]

Spaceweed10 wrote...

Beertastic wrote...

Spaceweed10 wrote...

Beertastic wrote...

I haven't used it myself, but I've heard (from friends) that it runs games like crap. A lot of crashes and bad performance apparently (take that for it's worth, my FRIENDS words, not my own).

You and your 'friends', know sh!t.

I changed from Vista to W7 when the beta version came out, and it's night and day.  Don't comment on stuff you clearly know zero about, sunshine.

Are you blind? I said my friends had told me it wasn't running games well (namely World of Warcraft and a few other titles) and they were continually getting CTDs.

I never said it was my OWN opinion or stating I knew better then he himself, I was simply giving him the input of my friends and told him to take it for what it's worth.

Perhaps if you weren't so far up your own arse that you feel the need to put others down on the net you wouldn't feel so defensive over an operating system.

'WoW' players - that answers so many questions.  Thank you for clarifying.

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Yes because judging people by the games they play or online communities they participate in is a surefire way to make excuses for your own actions.

Woo hoo. Let's drop this conversation, I'm sure others are sick of seeing back and forth flaming and frankly I have a feeling you're a troll.

Cheers.

[Jiggasaurus]

Played the game with Windows 7 (64 bit) fresh install, my rigs fairly new made it a few months back but i got the cheaper ATI card (XFX 4890) as opposed to the NVIDIA (275/285/295) which seemed to costly considering DX11 is just around the corner.



If you post your budget it might be easier to comment on what would be advisable for you to purchase & if your getting 64 bit for VIsta/7 make sure you dont skimp on your RAM.

[Ibian]

My budget wouldn't help much seeing as i'm danish, doubt most of you know where to get good deals over here. But roughly $1000.



I'm mainly concerned with the graphic card and getting a big harddrive, any random dualcore should handle things fine.

[Selvec_Darkon]

Is that a joke? No? Oh...um....Windows 7 then. Vista is and has always been crap. Windows 7 is new, and is pretty much Vista on Steroids.

[Ibian]

Not to derail my own thread, but the only real arguments i have heard against vista goes to the tune of "i'm a cheapskate and i want it to run perfectly on my 486". Never had any problems with it myself, it runs twenty things perfectly at the same time.

[Rotkiv7]

Im using a Nexoc Osiris T9300 Core 2 duo/M8800GTX(512 RAM), 4GB RAM and Windows 7(32 bit) and DA:O runs perfectly on high settings, so just get a similar(or better) system and you should´nt have any problems.

[Selvec_Darkon]

Yes, but it suffers from backwards compatability issues. Where as Win7 has features that allow for playing of older games, and using older software. Windows 7 also has an inbuilt virtual drive emulation, as well as many other useful features. Windows 7 quite literally is Vista but improved.



Being a techie, and a qualified network administrator, I can't think why someone would go Vista over Win7, other then price.

[oMonarca]

Ibian wrote...

Another thing some of you reminded me of. 64 vs 32?

My current laptop is running Vista 32, so i'm thinking keep it around for older stuff and get 7 64 on the new one? Or does DA run better on 7 32?

Only depends on how much RAM you'll be getting. Anything above 3GB, stick with a 64bit edition. Since Vista, 32bit apps run pretty well on a 64bit Windows OS.

Since I'm getting the impression you don't have neither Vista nor 7, get 7. You'll get the current stability of Vista, with a load of improvements to the interface and backend optimizations.


Offtopic: people should give Vista a lot more credit. It was basically the real open beta that allowed 7 to launch so smoothly. It forced so many developers to update their drivers under a new certification policy, and got all the bad rep that comes with the waiting-for-drivers game. Then Microsoft wisely optimized and rebranded it, and presto, success. Without Vista, 7 would never get such a smooth launch.

Modifié par oMonarca, 16 novembre 2009 - 12:42 .

[Auraad]

Use Win7 - it's the "service pack 3" for vista ...



And: you can run 64 bit - I have no probs with it.

[Thalandor21]

Running DA:O on windows 7 home premium, core i5 and radeon 4870. After more than 55 hours, not a single game crash. Load times becomes slow after a while like the rest of the ppl because there apparently are memory leaks.

[spaceboyjohn]

My experience is that most lag isn't caused by your processor or graphics card but usually the speed of your hard drive...that hitching you get (often called Lag) is usually your hard drive accessing information. If you're buying a new laptop it will most likely come with Windows 7...I don't think they give you an option...I did a clean install of Windows 7 over my Vista and haven't been disappointed. The operating system is clean, fresh and runs much better. Don't expect enormous improvements over Vista but why go with something old when there's something new? I find for most these high demanding games it's better to jsut get in the habit of shutting the game down every few hours just to improve performance...its not that hard and makes things run smoother.

[morti84]

Im running W7 64bit no problems at all so wouldn't hesitate to recommend you use it, it'll also give you much better battery life on your laptop.

[foxwood1084]

Go go 7. The game defetly has a mem leak, I'm seeing it on both my comp running 7 and my girlfriend's which is still on Vista.

[Errel]

Haven't had any issues with Windows 7 yet, I'm running the Release Candidate though and not the Retail version. For me it's quicker and better than Vista, runs games perfectly.



My specs:

- Windows 7 RC 64bit

- Some type of quad core lol

- Geforce GTX 260

- 4gig RAM

[Sevenar]

Win 7 x64 Professional, Athlon Phenom II X4 overclocked to 3.30 GHz, 4 GB RAM, ATI HD4870 video card. Running DA on highest graphics settings at 1920x1080, getting 50-70 fps. Only one crash to desktop, due to known bug between running Firefox while playing a DirectX game. Switched to IE8 on my second monitor, no crashes since on DA or any other game.

[Dex1701]

Aesir Rising wrote...
Knights of the Old Republic crashes frequently under 7 x64. Might be a problem specific to certain computers, (KotOR users installing KotOR through Steam aren't reporting this issue, but disk version users are) and this issue wasn't occurring last week when this hardware was running Vista x64, or two months ago when it was running x86 XP Pro SP3.

Are you using an ATI card?  If I remember correctly, ATI cards had issues with KotOR because of OpenGL32.DLL.  I had major stability issues with my old Radeon 9800 Pro, and I actually had to track down an older version of OpenGL32.DLL, because KotOR hated the version packed with newer ATI drivers.  It worked...the older version of the file (just copied into the folder with the game's .EXE file) got rid of the crashes for good.  I can't confirm (don't have KotOR installed ATM), but I've heard that newer ATI drivers have similiar issues with the game.  It might be worth tracking down an older version of OpenGL32.DLL and giving it a try.

Overall I'm liking Windows 7 a lot better than Vista, although I never had many problems with Vista either (mostly just with the horrendous content DRM implementation).  I like the UI improvements...they're not major, but they make a difference.  It's also very responsive.  I'm running Win7 Pro x64 with a Q9550 and 8GB of RAM and it flies...it's significantly more responsive than XP Pro ever was.  I'm running Win7 Home x64 on my living room HTPC with a ton of odd hardware and software and I've even been able to find stable drivers for everything.  Win7 Media Center is also a nice improvement over VMC.  I'm having zero issues.

Gaming is a tad faster on the average on 7 over Vista...typically a hair slower than XP, while things like network file transfers are faster than XP and Vista combined (ok, slight exaggeration, but not by much).  In some areas there actually are some significant improvements over XP.  The rumors that XP is still the OS to have are...exaggerated IMO.  Especially if you have plenty of memory, which is fairly cheap these day.

All in all, not a gigantic change from Vista SP2 (which, really, isn't as bad as its reputation), but the changes they made were very good ones.  I used to do most of my work in Debian Linux, but since 7 has been out I've found myself using Windows a little more often.

[iinfinity]

windows 7 ultimate is no faster with games then vista ultimate 64, plus for me, 7 has more things go wrong then vista. a good graphics card that i have is geforce 9600 gto 1gb

[Miss Trips]

Just make sure you're getting a videocard with dedicated memory and not shared. I bought a new laptop once Windows 7 came out and it runs DA slick and smooth.

[Druscylla]

Beertastic wrote...

Spaceweed10 wrote...

Beertastic wrote...

I haven't used it myself, but I've heard (from friends) that it runs games like crap. A lot of crashes and bad performance apparently (take that for it's worth, my FRIENDS words, not my own).

You and your 'friends', know sh!t.

I changed from Vista to W7 when the beta version came out, and it's night and day.  Don't comment on stuff you clearly know zero about, sunshine.

Are you blind? I said my friends had told me it wasn't running games well (namely World of Warcraft and a few other titles) and they were continually getting CTDs.

I never said it was my OWN opinion or stating I knew better then he himself, I was simply giving him the input of my friends and told him to take it for what it's worth.

Perhaps if you weren't so far up your own arse that you feel the need to put others down on the net you wouldn't feel so defensive over an operating system.

I have Windows 7. I used it in beta and now have retail copy on my main PC. I play World of Warcraft all the time and it runs flawlessly. I have less issues, zero memory leaks like I had with Vista and it runs DAO great too. To put it in perspective, I have a laptop that has Vista on it still. I have to stop playing Sims 3, DAO, and WoW after about 1 1/2 to two hours due to Windows Explorer crashing for no reason and me having to make Vista fix it and restart.
Windows 7 is so much better than Vista its painful. (in my opinion obviously.)

Modifié par Druscylla, 17 novembre 2009 - 08:10 .

[Beertastic]

Druscylla wrote...

Beertastic wrote...

Spaceweed10 wrote...

Beertastic wrote...

I haven't used it myself, but I've heard (from friends) that it runs games like crap. A lot of crashes and bad performance apparently (take that for it's worth, my FRIENDS words, not my own).

You and your 'friends', know sh!t.

I changed from Vista to W7 when the beta version came out, and it's night and day.  Don't comment on stuff you clearly know zero about, sunshine.

Are you blind? I said my friends had told me it wasn't running games well (namely World of Warcraft and a few other titles) and they were continually getting CTDs.

I never said it was my OWN opinion or stating I knew better then he himself, I was simply giving him the input of my friends and told him to take it for what it's worth.

Perhaps if you weren't so far up your own arse that you feel the need to put others down on the net you wouldn't feel so defensive over an operating system.

I have Windows 7. I used it in beta and now have retail copy on my main PC. I play World of Warcraft all the time and it runs flawlessly. I have less issues, zero memory leaks like I had with Vista and it runs DAO great too. To put it in perspective, I have a laptop that has Vista on it still. I have to stop playing Sims 3, DAO, and WoW after about 1 1/2 to two hours due to Windows Explorer crashing for no reason and me having to make Vista fix it and restart.
Windows 7 is so much better than Vista its painful. (in my opinion obviously.)

I appreciate the input. I'm seeing a lot of positive things about Windows 7 and considering upgrading in the next few months (waiting off since I just got Vista about a year and a half ago and want to get some more use out of it).

I've had bad experiences with gaming laptops running Vista aswell, though my desktop computer (running Vista 32-bit) handles games just fine (in fact I only shut off my computer on the rare occasion besides restarting once in awhile for updates). I'm wondering if the problem with laptops is that they simply overheat too quickly.

[Equilibrium1990]

I am, and have always been a huge XP fan boy. I refused to upgrade to windows Vista due to it being the worlds worst operating system ever created (I still refuse to use it). How ever Windows 7 has changed my mind and I am now running it. I have not had a single hitch with it at all. I have 64bit ultimate on a high end gaming box, and enjoying all the benifits of 7.



Go 7 and stay the F**K away from vista

[Rexxean]

Vista x64 bit ultimate 16gigs ram FTW, will not switch for at least 3years plus! rocks, with new pathces reconizes everthing easy

[Sylvius the Mad]

syphax1337 wrote...

The majority of Windows 7 based issue is all due to the cunning way they've hidden a lot of system-based functions to the average user. While good in some way, and better for security, it can be a pain in the rear if you actually know what you're doing and not being allowed to do it.

Unless you go all out and change the way the OS gives permissions, you're not going to have control or access over every part of your computer. Most of the crashing is actually caused by "Start as Administrator" problems as the game tries to access a file that Windows 7 doesn't think it should be doing for some reason. The problem will be ironed out eventually, just like it was with Vista.

And this is why I'm sticking with Vista for now.  I force-enable DirectDraw on an application-by-application basis, and I had an administrator user take full ownership of the entire system drive (instead of the hidden user "Trusted Installer" that owns everything by default).

I honestly have no idea if this would work in Win7 (if anyone know, drop me a line), so I'm disinclined to upgrade.

[Druggon]

I run Vista 64 bit..no issues on anything. Of course, I`m not one to "muck about" with the settings either. I update when they`re available, and made sure when my system was built I had proper cooling. Lack of cooling can cause alot of problems.
Vista64 bit
AMD 9850 Quad-Core o/c`d to 2.71
4 Gb (a must for Vista)
Nvida 9800GTX
case runs 4 - 120mm fans

The ONLY games that I had any problem with were older games. And I still got them to run perfectly.

Modifié par Druggon, 17 novembre 2009 - 08:44 .