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"The Warden" (endgame spoilers)


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I found it interesting how in most of the game they refer to your warden from DA:O as "The Hero of Ferelden", but in the final scene Cassandra refers only to "The Warden". I was thinking that this is maybe to open up the possibility of your DA:O character appearing in future installments (be they DLC, expansions, or DA3). Since many people's warden canonically died at the end of Origins, it would be impossible to have them show up later on alive. But referring to the dissappeared character as simply "The Warden" instead of "The Hero of Ferelden" opens up the options for it to be either your character or simply the current warden commander. Sort of like in Awakening where you could choose to import an Origins character or create a new one.

Thoughts? Am I thinking too much into this?

Also, if my warden DOES show up later on she and Leliana better get some happy time. I spent a lot of time getting her to fall in love with me. :P

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If my Warden appears again, she better get to stay with her King for longer than a few years. D:

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ToastPants wrote...

I found it interesting how in most of the game they refer to your warden from DA:O as "The Hero of Ferelden", but in the final scene Cassandra refers only to "The Warden". I was thinking that this is maybe to open up the possibility of your DA:O character appearing in future installments (be they DLC, expansions, or DA3). Since many people's warden canonically died at the end of Origins, it would be impossible to have them show up later on alive. But referring to the dissappeared character as simply "The Warden" instead of "The Hero of Ferelden" opens up the options for it to be either your character or simply the current warden commander. Sort of like in Awakening where you could choose to import an Origins character or create a new one.

Thoughts? Am I thinking too much into this?

Also, if my warden DOES show up later on she and Leliana better get some happy time. I spent a lot of time getting her to fall in love with me. :P

Some have speculated that when Cassandra said the Warden disappeared as well, it could possibly mean that the Warden's dead body disappeared. So she still could have been referring to the Hero of Ferelden even if someone imported the ultimate sacrifice ending. It's not as dramatic as the idea of the living Warden Hero disappearing along with the Champion, though. 

As for why anyone would be checking the Hero of Ferelden's tomb to see if the body was there or not, who knows. :lol:

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Lol I like how the primary concern of so many people (myself included) about their wardens showing up is whether or not their romantic relationships ended well.

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Indeed, I felt sad when I saw Leliana in the exiled prince's quest as she mentioned my warden. By mistake I ended up Marrying Alistair and had to break it off with Leliana : [

It be nice to see My Warden back in the near future. I wouldn't mind Hawke coming back as well with my Warden.

Modifié par Nocturnius89, 12 mars 2011 - 05:46 .


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Espurr

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I think it would be interesting if there was DLC where you could play through some of what your warden was doing during events of DA2.

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Yes, very interesting. It was an actual, "Oh wow!" moment for me. So many ways they could go about implementing this in a future storyline.

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If we saw the Warden again, they would need a voice. Who would voice them? Considering the voice in-combat choices in DA:O (wise, mystical, ect..) would we just have one vanilla voice? Hmm...

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Minxie18 wrote...

ToastPants wrote...

I found it interesting how in most of the game they refer to your warden from DA:O as "The Hero of Ferelden", but in the final scene Cassandra refers only to "The Warden". I was thinking that this is maybe to open up the possibility of your DA:O character appearing in future installments (be they DLC, expansions, or DA3). Since many people's warden canonically died at the end of Origins, it would be impossible to have them show up later on alive. But referring to the dissappeared character as simply "The Warden" instead of "The Hero of Ferelden" opens up the options for it to be either your character or simply the current warden commander. Sort of like in Awakening where you could choose to import an Origins character or create a new one.

Thoughts? Am I thinking too much into this?

Also, if my warden DOES show up later on she and Leliana better get some happy time. I spent a lot of time getting her to fall in love with me. :P

Some have speculated that when Cassandra said the Warden disappeared as well, it could possibly mean that the Warden's dead body disappeared. So she still could have been referring to the Hero of Ferelden even if someone imported the ultimate sacrifice ending. It's not as dramatic as the idea of the living Warden Hero disappearing along with the Champion, though. 

As for why anyone would be checking the Hero of Ferelden's tomb to see if the body was there or not, who knows. :lol:

That makes no sense if your Warden was a Human Noble or a City Elf. Fereldens have funeral pyres for their Heroes/Kings. Unless someone snatched up a jar of Warden ashes I can still see some people upset by the DAII ending.

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TheDarkRats wrote...

If we saw the Warden again, they would need a voice. Who would voice them? Considering the voice in-combat choices in DA:O (wise, mystical, ect..) would we just have one vanilla voice? Hmm...

Have the Warden be voiced by whatever voice set you chose for him in Origins. Simple.

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Also, to the OP. Why did you steal my pants? Posted Image

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TexasToast712 wrote...

Minxie18 wrote...

ToastPants wrote...

I found it interesting how in most of the game they refer to your warden from DA:O as "The Hero of Ferelden", but in the final scene Cassandra refers only to "The Warden". I was thinking that this is maybe to open up the possibility of your DA:O character appearing in future installments (be they DLC, expansions, or DA3). Since many people's warden canonically died at the end of Origins, it would be impossible to have them show up later on alive. But referring to the dissappeared character as simply "The Warden" instead of "The Hero of Ferelden" opens up the options for it to be either your character or simply the current warden commander. Sort of like in Awakening where you could choose to import an Origins character or create a new one.

Thoughts? Am I thinking too much into this?

Also, if my warden DOES show up later on she and Leliana better get some happy time. I spent a lot of time getting her to fall in love with me. :P

Some have speculated that when Cassandra said the Warden disappeared as well, it could possibly mean that the Warden's dead body disappeared. So she still could have been referring to the Hero of Ferelden even if someone imported the ultimate sacrifice ending. It's not as dramatic as the idea of the living Warden Hero disappearing along with the Champion, though. 

As for why anyone would be checking the Hero of Ferelden's tomb to see if the body was there or not, who knows. :lol:

That makes no sense if your Warden was a Human Noble or a City Elf. Fereldens have funeral pyres for their Heroes/Kings. Unless someone snatched up a jar of Warden ashes I can still see some people upset by the DAII ending.

What's wrong with someone snatching up a jar of Warden ashes? Andraste was nothing but ash and her remains were still important. Just sayin'. ^_^

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Given that Hawke seemingly knows enough kung-fu to give Bruce Lee pause, and that one of the early(ish) companions you pick up is Anders post-awakening where Hawke is more badass than him, couldn't Hawke just have stayed in Lothering and kicked the Archdaemons arse? He's clearly 10 times as badass as the hero of Ferelden ever was.

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I honestly think Hawke and the Warden will both be dead in DA3. The revelations that arrive from that would develop the story quite a bit more than if they were alive. IMO Hawke's role wasn't to side with the Chantry or the Circle, it was to start the war.

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MKDAWUSS wrote...

I honestly think Hawke and the Warden will both be dead in DA3. The revelations that arrive from that would develop the story quite a bit more than if they were alive. IMO Hawke's role wasn't to side with the Chantry or the Circle, it was to start the war.


I don't think they'll be dead. Or at least Hawke won't. Otherwise they wouldn't have made a point of Varric seeming so certain he/she is still alive.

And I sure HOPE my warden isn't dead. I got way to attached to her. And so did Leliana damnit! lol

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MKDAWUSS wrote...

I honestly think Hawke and the Warden will both be dead in DA3. The revelations that arrive from that would develop the story quite a bit more than if they were alive. IMO Hawke's role wasn't to side with the Chantry or the Circle, it was to start the war.


This makes perfect sense.

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Has any1 heard of any talks or rumors of any future DLC yet. You know they will .The game was Too short. It's a way for them to make alot more money

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the only problem with the warden returning is how will he speak? in DAO you have text and no voice. will they have a male female voice for each race available. or something along those lines. as far as story is its a resurrection than I would think flemith would have to be part of it. but my wardens never died cause moragain was always my love interest. and as for warden hawk I would love to see my mage hawk with my dwarf warrior warden team up to kick some but. but I would like a new solo quest with the warden or one of hawk looking for him/her

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I was thinking along the line of the "great change" coming that morrigan, flemeth and sandal talks about. Morrigan/warden - Flemeth/hawk and maybe explain what is going on with sandal.

Could end up being interesting to see how everyone aligns if things happen.

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I just wonder why they can't do the same thing they did with ME2, just map the facial data from DA:O onto a model in DA2, it would have to a large DLC to do it but who wouldn't love to see there Warden return. he voice is easy just have them work off of the voice you chose in Origins, or even better since its been 10 years just make his voice gravelly to match the march of time. P.S. Hearing Alistair talk ing the throne room was a high point of the game, especially since he tells you where DLC or DA3 is going.

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Well both the Warden and Hawke disappear in the end. Unless they are pulling a KotOR I guess for good reason. But I really don't hope for much with Bioware. Lately they have a tendency to disappoint. And with lately I mean the DA franchise after DA:O.

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ToastPants wrote...

MKDAWUSS wrote...

I honestly think Hawke and the Warden will both be dead in DA3. The revelations that arrive from that would develop the story quite a bit more than if they were alive. IMO Hawke's role wasn't to side with the Chantry or the Circle, it was to start the war.


I don't think they'll be dead. Or at least Hawke won't. Otherwise they wouldn't have made a point of Varric seeming so certain he/she is still alive.

And I sure HOPE my warden isn't dead. I got way to attached to her. And so did Leliana damnit! lol


They've both served their purpose IMO. The Warden's was to produce the OGB (which, yes, I know may or may not have happened - and the decision surrounding that can still come into play) and Hawke's was to bring down the Chantry and the Circle by instigating a brutal and bloody war, leaving unassociated apostate mages (like Morrigan and Flemeth) as the most powerful people in Thedas.

Plus, one of the best things to do to a character is knock them off their BAMF pedestal.

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My Warden died to kill the Archdemon and then became queen with Alistair. So...ye...

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Iecerint wrote...

My Warden died to kill the Archdemon and then became queen with Alistair. So...ye...

People don't die in DA. They are just lying dormant until the next retcon.

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My warden is somewhere beyond the fade, most likely in a brothel or whatever they call them there. Hope he comes back with Hawke for some ass kickin, If I will have to choose my char, Warden> Hawke. 

Modifié par Tamcia, 12 mars 2011 - 10:58 .