Topic...I'm at the start of act 2 and I was wondering if I would have enough time to get Merrill's rivalry up - she's still somewhere near the middle.
Should I befriend or rival Merrill?
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dreamextractor
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Posté 12 mars 2011 - 06:25
Sonris89
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Just keep listioning to reason and don't give in to her insane personal quest and you'll get that rivalry.
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Posté 12 mars 2011 - 06:29
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Lol, is it worth seeing the "friendship" side of her story at least once? I'm playing a Blood Mage (not evil, though...) Hawke so I would feel kind of like a hypocrite for yelling at Merrill about Blood Magic.
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Posté 12 mars 2011 - 06:31
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I played the friendship side of her story (gave her the mirror piece, took her to Sundermount for the final confrontation with the demon) and while the personal tragedy at the end was horribly poignant. in the final analysis it actually wasn't Merrill's fault. Had her plan gone to completion without interference, she'd very likely have destroyed herself, but Merrill knew that risk and accepted it. She didn't ask someone else to unilaterally take the price upon themself, or for the consequences to snowball out to mass death.
Then again, I'm not objective on the Merrill topic.
Me, I don't know what the Rivalry side looks like; how does it go?
Then again, I'm not objective on the Merrill topic.
Me, I don't know what the Rivalry side looks like; how does it go?
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Posté 12 mars 2011 - 06:32
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I got a nice -25 for telling her to sod off with her mirror. I find her to be a complete nit-wit, and my Hawk doesn't have the patience for her, so she is always rude.
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Posté 12 mars 2011 - 06:33
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I was nice with Merrill, I got her the mirror piece for her first quest, but I didn't take her to Sundermount to summon the demon.
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Posté 12 mars 2011 - 06:35
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I am doing the Romance with her so I am being friendly, not one for a rivalry relationship lol. Maybe ill go all rivalry on her next playthrough, but than i dont know if ill use her lol.
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Posté 12 mars 2011 - 06:36
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I like Merril, so I'm being nice to her. Maybe in my next playthrough I'll tell her to ****** off xD
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Posté 12 mars 2011 - 06:39
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dreamextractor wrote...
Lol, is it worth seeing the "friendship" side of her story at least once? I'm playing a Blood Mage (not evil, though...) Hawke so I would feel kind of like a hypocrite for yelling at Merrill about Blood Magic.
You would be more than kind of a hypocrite... you would be absolutely a hypocrite. That's exactly what Merrill is... a Blood Mage who has good intentions. Chastising her for doing exactly what you're doing would be way out of character in my opinion.
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Posté 12 mars 2011 - 06:40
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I was super nice to her, since she was my love interest, but I also flat out refused to help her down her dark path. She ended up with full friendship even though I took her piece of the mirror and made her feel awful about her blood magic.
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Posté 12 mars 2011 - 06:42
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Which reminds me. The Blood Mage spec NEEDs special dialogue in the game. I would love being confronted for using blood magic.
Least there are plenty of options to make deals with demons in this game.
Least there are plenty of options to make deals with demons in this game.
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Posté 12 mars 2011 - 06:43
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I personally find her personaly refreshing and the accent, i love that accent, its one of those 'tali type' companion, i love her accent. 
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Posté 12 mars 2011 - 06:44
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cglasgow wrote...
I played the friendship side of her story (gave her the mirror piece, took her to Sundermount for the final confrontation with the demon) and while the personal tragedy at the end was horribly poignant. in the final analysis it actually wasn't Merrill's fault. Had her plan gone to completion without interference, she'd very likely have destroyed herself, but Merrill knew that risk and accepted it. She didn't ask someone else to unilaterally take the price upon themself, or for the consequences to snowball out to mass death.
I agree with this completely. I had a Friendship with Merrill, and I understood her desire to reclaim a part of her people's history.
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Posté 12 mars 2011 - 06:45
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The only reason I helped Merril rebuild that blasted mirror was because I was hoping it would have something to do with Morrigan and the Eluvian in Witchunt. How wrong I was.
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Posté 12 mars 2011 - 06:48
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TexasToast712 wrote...
The only reason I helped Merril rebuild that blasted mirror was because I was hoping it would have something to do with Morrigan and the Eluvian in Witchunt. How wrong I was.
haha, at least you had motivation to wanna build the mirror
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Posté 12 mars 2011 - 06:54
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I just want to see my beloved in all her graphically redesigned glory. They made Flemeth look sexy in DAII and I can only imagine how HOT Morrigan must be now.DarthSliver wrote...
TexasToast712 wrote...
The only reason I helped Merril rebuild that blasted mirror was because I was hoping it would have something to do with Morrigan and the Eluvian in Witchunt. How wrong I was.
haha, at least you had motivation to wanna build the mirror
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Posté 12 mars 2011 - 06:54
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I liked her personality and accent. But her naive perspective on the world and overconfidence in her abilities coupled with her obssession over an obviously evil artifact and treacherous demons promise was just reeeeedunculous.
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Posté 12 mars 2011 - 06:57
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What's even more ridiculous is that your entire party does nothing about it except give her a good scolding. I mean, hello? If I were Hawke I'd knock Merrill out and dump that thing into the ocean.
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Posté 12 mars 2011 - 07:05
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Sonris89 wrote...
I liked her personality and accent. But her naive perspective on the world and overconfidence in her abilities coupled with her obssession over an obviously evil artifact and treacherous demons promise was just reeeeedunculous.
She was unfamiliar with human culture because it was completely alien to her, but she knew the risks involved with the demon, and wanted to make the attempt because she felt it was worth it if it would allow her to reclaim a part of her people's history.
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Posté 12 mars 2011 - 07:23
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She knew the risks but she didn't take them seriously.
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Posté 12 mars 2011 - 07:25
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LobselVith8 wrote...
Sonris89 wrote...
I liked her personality and accent. But her naive perspective on the world and overconfidence in her abilities coupled with her obssession over an obviously evil artifact and treacherous demons promise was just reeeeedunculous.
She was unfamiliar with human culture because it was completely alien to her, but she knew the risks involved with the demon, and wanted to make the attempt because she felt it was worth it if it would allow her to reclaim a part of her people's history.
So baisically she's Branka, they both want to reaquire some part of their people's history and are perfectly fine with paying any price, would love to see how people would feel about Merrill if she willingly tried to sacrifice Hawke and the others...oooooh wait she was willing
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Posté 12 mars 2011 - 07:31
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Malevolence65 wrote...
She knew the risks but she didn't take them seriously.
Arguably its entirely the Keepers fault here. She went way the hell out of her way to coddle and protect Merrill from the consequences of her decisions and didn't even tell her about it. I mean, from Merrill's perspective she dealt with demons... and nothing bad happened at all. Hell there are a lot of places in game you can deal with demons with no ill consequences, so she's not entirely wrong at all.
Merrill's only real issue is that shes unsure of her limits... which is why she brings Hawke along to kill her. The mirror is basically all she has left besides Hawke's group, and I don't blame her for what she does.
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Posté 12 mars 2011 - 07:36
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I felt sorry for her, but she kind of deserved what she got. She assumed that playing around with dangerous magic would only destroy her life, and that assumption ended up costing her everything. Anders was totally justified when he said that the world was poorer with her in it. I mean I liked some aspects of her character, but I told her over and over that she was playing a dangerous game and she didn't listen.
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Posté 12 mars 2011 - 07:39
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Iyacathor wrote...
Malevolence65 wrote...
She knew the risks but she didn't take them seriously.
Arguably its entirely the Keepers fault here. She went way the hell out of her way to coddle and protect Merrill from the consequences of her decisions and didn't even tell her about it. I mean, from Merrill's perspective she dealt with demons... and nothing bad happened at all. Hell there are a lot of places in game you can deal with demons with no ill consequences, so she's not entirely wrong at all.
Merrill's only real issue is that shes unsure of her limits... which is why she brings Hawke along to kill her. The mirror is basically all she has left besides Hawke's group, and I don't blame her for what she does.
You have a point. Its one thing for a keeper to force Merril to kill her to prove a point. Its another to get the whole clan slaughtered because of on foolish elf girl. But I wonder if she knew teaching merril this lesson would cost more then just her own life.
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Posté 12 mars 2011 - 07:45
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cglasgow wrote...
I played the friendship side of her story (gave her the mirror piece, took her to Sundermount for the final confrontation with the demon) and while the personal tragedy at the end was horribly poignant. in the final analysis it actually wasn't Merrill's fault. Had her plan gone to completion without interference, she'd very likely have destroyed herself, but Merrill knew that risk and accepted it. She didn't ask someone else to unilaterally take the price upon themself, or for the consequences to snowball out to mass death.
Then again, I'm not objective on the Merrill topic.
Me, I don't know what the Rivalry side looks like; how does it go?
There's a way to only kill the demon/keeper, when you are confrunted by the clan say the "it's my fault" line.
