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[MadCat221]

In Dragon Age 2, we meet a halfbreed elven/human boy, Feynreil.  He definitely looks it: he's got the build and blunt ears of a human, but a face that looks like the new Na'vi look-alike style for the Elves.

So... it's speculated that Fiona is Alistair's real mother due to Maric making like an unfaithful king (again) in The Calling.  However, Al is most decidedly human in appearance; not a hint of half-breedness in his appearance at all, despite having the same pattern of parentage as Feynreil; elven mother, human father.

I think this is pretty compelling evidence to the notion that Al's mother is in fact the scullery maid we're told is his mother in DA:O itself.

Modifié par MadCat221, 12 mars 2011 - 08:45 .

[Raiil]

Er, that's just one model. We'd need way more examples before it becomes compelling evidence. The fact that elves were completely remodeled in DA2 only takes away from your theory, since Alistair is a model from DA1, where elves had features closes to humans.

[MadCat221]

And DA2 features several elf characters from DA1 who got the DA2 style makeover. One's even a companion. And yet, Al is still human.

Then again,maybe his... unpleasant appearance in DA2 is some badly done attempt to elvenize Al somewhat? He doesn't look elven, he just looks... bad.

Modifié par MadCat221, 12 mars 2011 - 08:49 .

[Raiil]

I think poor Alistair's having some water retention problems.

The elves got a makeover; however, in-game wise there would be no reason for Alistair to have one, since whether he's Fiona's son or not isn't all that important. Plus, yes, he needed to be recognisable. Although bloated is the word I keep thinking of.

[leggywillow]

I don't think it's compelling evidence.  After all, the devs have hinted that what the writers intend and what the artists think looks cool don't always go hand-in-hand.  Wasn't it implied that the writers were a bit annoyed by the way the artists refused to put shoes on Merrill and Fenris?  This could easily be just a case of "the artists thought it would be neat".

[Malja]

Not to mention in the books... it's clearly stated that the child of a human/elf relationship looks decidedly human. So yes, going for a choice made by the artists, not the writers (surprise?).

[Shazzie]

Feynriel really, REALLY bugs me. According to the lore of Dragon Age, human genes override elven. The product of an elf and a human is, for all intents and purposes, a human. So seeing a character that was OBVIOUSLY a half-elf wasn't just a change in art direction, it was completely against the lore. Bugs me, bugs me a lot.

[leggywillow]

Shazzie wrote...

Feynriel really, REALLY bugs me. According to the lore of Dragon Age, human genes override elven. The product of an elf and a human is, for all intents and purposes, a human. So seeing a character that was OBVIOUSLY a half-elf wasn't just a change in art direction, it was completely against the lore. Bugs me, bugs me a lot.

I do think I remember David Gaider once saying that if there is a lot of elf blood in the family, some elven traits may eventually start to show.  We can always pretend that one of Feynriel's father's parents was an elf and had a lot of elves in the family tree?

[Addai]

The seed is strong! Theirin boys look like Theirin boys.

[Malja]

Addai67 wrote...

The seed is strong! Theirin boys look like Theirin boys.

If only that really meant something in DA2. Oh look, there goes that trademark Theirin nose.

[Maria13]

David Gaider
Lead Writer


Joined: 17 Oct 2001
From: Edmonton, AB Posted: Wednesday, 09 May 2007 11:33PM
Quote: Posted 05/09/07 23:28 (GMT) by showoffsg
Are half-dwarves the only half-something in DA?
Sort of.

There was a time when I think I said that humans and elves interbreeding produced either fully human or fully elven children. That's changed. Their offspring is always fully human (albeit possibly with some minor elven physical traits and therefore such humans are often called "elf-blooded").

But there you go.


Quote: Way to stick it to the Tolkienites!
The real question is whether doing that results in a half-Tolkienite.
uote: Posted 05/10/07 12:11 (GMT) by Nighteye2

Right, but what happens when a character has one human
great-grandparent, and 7 elven great-grandparents? Would he still be
human, or would the elven genes revert back to elven?

Still fully human, though I suspect the chances of gaining some odd (odd
for humans, anyhow) elven appearance traits might be higher in such a
circumstance.



I copied this from an old convo.

Modifié par Maria13, 13 mars 2011 - 12:12 .

[Malja]

Phew mine fixing that up? Gosh that's huge hahah.

Thanks for the info.

Edit: Nevermind, fast work there hahah.

Modifié par Malja, 13 mars 2011 - 12:12 .

[Maria13]

Done.

[DreGregoire]

Well... you know genetics is about dominate traits so I'm assuming elven ears are cancelled out by the dominate human round ear'd gene. Now I would guess that any other trait would depend on how dominate the human trait is vs. the elven trait. Skin color, eye color, body shape, etc. Perhaps the slender shape isn't dominate so the human tends to be bigger and I think they do a very good job showing it.

In regards to Alistair, it's clearly stated in the book by Gaider that the baby looks much like Cailan did as an infant; therefore, very Maric looking. So even though we don't have any proof that Alistair is Fiona's child it wouldn't be way out there for him to be. Obviously bioware isn't going to give us a definate answer.

[Esbatty]

Addai67 wrote...

The seed is strong! Theirin boys look like Theirin boys.

I'm gonna get that done up on on t-shirt for whenever I have kids.

[Maria13]

Addai67 wrote...

The seed is strong! Theirin boys look like Theirin boys.

That is quite possible. Perhaps it's not the blood after all...

[MasterSamson88]

Shazzie wrote...

Feynriel really, REALLY bugs me. According to the lore of Dragon Age, human genes override elven. The product of an elf and a human is, for all intents and purposes, a human. So seeing a character that was OBVIOUSLY a half-elf wasn't just a change in art direction, it was completely against the lore. Bugs me, bugs me a lot.

From what I read the child of a human and elf is human except for a few Elvish traits.

[Eveangaline]

Shazzie wrote...

Feynriel really, REALLY bugs me. According to the lore of Dragon Age, human genes override elven. The product of an elf and a human is, for all intents and purposes, a human. So seeing a character that was OBVIOUSLY a half-elf wasn't just a change in art direction, it was completely against the lore. Bugs me, bugs me a lot.

But Faynriel is completely human. He looks vaugly elven, but that doesn't change the fact that he's obviously human. His race is human, but he still looks like his mother as much as a human can, that doesn't seem that odd.