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[Nefarious13]

templar706 wrote...

Lennonkun wrote...

Baldur's Gate 2 is far better.

Anyone who thinks otherwise is a troll and has never played Baldur's Gate.

Oh, so anyone else who disagrees with your opinion is a troll?
I loved the story in Baldurs Gate, but the combat was just so...boring. Of course that must mean that I am a 9 year old dumb COD player.

YES. Thank you for admitting it. It's the first step you know.

[Myounage]

Honestly, DA 2 isn't a "bad Bioware game." It's just bad. This really perplexes me though, as PC Gamer usually has no trouble giving huge budget console garbage crap reviews (Black Ops 60%).

[Mack_Attack]

Bowmangr wrote...

Mack_Attack wrote...

Bowmangr wrote...

Even the idea of comparing Baldur's Gate with the fiasko that DA2 is, is ridiculous.

In other news, Drogo45, still here. I'm amazed.
Are you working for EA full time defending the game 24/7 ?

So someone has to be working for EA to be able to defend against the unwarranted assault this game is getting? If so, I guess I'm waiting for my paycheque. 

Don't act like someone who enjoyed Origins somehow cannot like DA2. The game is not perfect by any means, but it is in no way a "travesty" or abomination. 

You obviously haven't seen that this guy has posted in EVERY SINGLE THREAD calling DA2 a masterpiece, the best RPG that we are going to play this year and other crap of similar magnitude...
Anyone in his right mind will at least accept that DA2 is a mediocre game. I can even accept calling it good. But  best rpg, better than Baldur's Gate, better than Origins and best RPG for 2011??
Come on!

Also, who called the game a travesty or an abomination? Horrible yes, bad yes. REALLY bad, no.

Someone upthread did. People are certainly entitled to their opinions. DA2 is not a masterpiece, but it is a good game. It's not one deserving of all of those 0s on Metacritic (like Metacritic means something to me anyways). I'm simply frustrated with all of the blind criticism it's getting. 

[Taura-Tierno]

Apples and oranges?

They might both be RPG's, but there's no way to make a fair, full comparison between the games. Maybe in terms of plot complexity and writing ... the gameplay mechanics have changed so much over time though, that it all just comes down to pure taste.

I won't comment on the plot since I haven't finished the game yet, but the writing has, so far, been on the same level as Baldur's Gate 2. I really enjoy the Fenris romance, I think it's well-written, and I love Isabela's banters with ... well, everyone. Especially with Fenris.

[Lennonkun]

templar706 wrote...

Lennonkun wrote...

Baldur's Gate 2 is far better.

Anyone who thinks otherwise is a troll and has never played Baldur's Gate.

Oh, so anyone else who disagrees with your opinion is a troll?
I loved the story in Baldurs Gate, but the combat was just so...boring. Of course that must mean that I am a 9 year old dumb COD player.

Good that you know what you are.

Combat in BG is exactly what it was supposed to be, combat based on 2nd ed DnD. If you can't deal with D20 systems then you are in the wrong genre.

[RohanD]

Myounage wrote...

Honestly, DA 2 isn't a "bad Bioware game." It's just bad. This really perplexes me though, as PC Gamer usually has no trouble giving huge budget console garbage crap reviews (Black Ops 60%).

They knew the PC version was weak. They were looking for magazines to pay off in order to offset the negative reviews the actual product was going to get. 

PC gamer is a great choice for this. The site is an SEM's dream come true when it comes to getting traffic for PC games.

They bought the 94% review from this magazine because they wanted to lock in as many PC preorders as they could before the real reviews hit, plain and simple. 

Modifié par RohanD, 12 mars 2011 - 11:50 .

[P_k_r]

Neither of the Dragon Age games can step in BG's shoes, let alone BG 2. Heck, chapter I of either probably blows Dragon Age 2 out of the water. My nostalgic opinion right there.

[Cuthlan]

mordarwarlock wrote...

did you guys noticed most of the either troll or I don't know, late bioware fangirls, can't even spell Baldur's gate correctly? (from bolders gate to Baulders get)

says a lot about the fanbase Bioware has been cattering to lately

This post made me laugh...

...and not because of the point you were trying to make.

If you're gonna make fun of poor spelling, you should probably make sure to spell everything in your post correctly.

[Bummlmitz2]

Boo does not approve of this thread.

[Lennonkun]

Cuthlan wrote...

mordarwarlock wrote...

did you guys noticed most of the either troll or I don't know, late bioware fangirls, can't even spell Baldur's gate correctly? (from bolders gate to Baulders get)

says a lot about the fanbase Bioware has been cattering to lately

This post made me laugh...

...and not because of the point you were trying to make.

If you're gonna make fun of poor spelling, you should probably make sure to spell everything in your post correctly.

Normally I'd agree with this, and certainly you can tell he didn't spell check, but the reality is that most of the BG haters really DO have no idea how to spell it, which just all too clearly indicates they are talking out of their asses.

[Forsakerr]

miltos33 wrote...

Drogo45 wrote...

No doubt at all - DA2 is the far supior game.

Indeed, it is the SUPIOR game.

yup they grabbed their targetted audience with this title

[markusprime]

Minsc&Boo rolling in their graves if this is whats left of the "spiritual sequels".

[R_G_Spuffington]

Nothing is as good as the BG series. In fact you could argue to some extent that Bioware are still victims of its success.

[Dorian the Monk of Sune]

October Sixth wrote...

BG2 is lower than BG1. Their opinion on anything else is irrelevant.

You can make an argument that BG 1 is better than 2. There was a better sense of exploration, ranged weapons were more usefull, and BG 1 didnt have the trash encounters. BG 2 had Lichs living under the city. 

[VeskeA]

Guys you are wrong!!!! Da2 is better then BG2 because every time you press a button something awesome happens!!! Button = Awesome

[trying2warnu]

Man-Giraffe-Dog has been sighted! It's currently hiding its Manliness but it is REAL. Help me spread the word!



Still Super Serial.

[BiowarEA]

LOL! Even Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance was better than this tripe!

[mordarwarlock]

This post made me laugh...

...and not because of the point you were trying to make.

If you're gonna make fun of poor spelling, you should probably make sure to spell everything in your post correctly.

not really a Grammar sheriff like yourself sir

can I be your deputy at least?

[borelocin]

Asking if DA2 is as good as BG is like asking if your new car is as good as a horse. Games have gone through a lot of changes since the 90s, most of them for the better. 

[GithCheater]

Most of the BG lovers are PC elitists that started playing RPG's at least 5 or more years ago and now are looking through nostalia tainted rose colored glasses. These PC elitists are constipated in their thinking and refuse to have an open mind. Prune juice indeed! Get of my lawn.

I have played both BG and BG2 and feel they are both highly over rated, and not as enjoyable as NWN or NWN2, DAO or DA2.

[R_G_Spuffington]

Well, on the whole I agree that you can't compare older games with newer ones. But there is one way, and that is the matter of replayability. I have played through the whole BG series at least 10 times more than I have DA:O and I don't foresee the ratio changing much in the future.

[Darji]

Myounage wrote...

Honestly, DA 2 isn't a "bad Bioware game." It's just bad. This really perplexes me though, as PC Gamer usually has no trouble giving huge budget console garbage crap reviews (Black Ops 60%).

Maybe the EA/Bioware paycheck was high enough this time.