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[Mack_Attack]

I still don't understand how it's seemingly impossible to like one and not the other. Are people playing through a different Dragon Age II than myself? I don't think it's in the same space as BG, but that doesn't mean it's a terrible game. Maybe people have trouble keeping up with the faster combat? I don't know. But this whole massive outcry is unwarranted.

[Myounage]

The combat isn't really faster. It's actually slower. Ability cooldowns are longer and enemies have more health / respawning waves. What makes the game bad is that the faster combat system clashes with the actual slower combat.

[Mrbananagrabber]

Drogo45 wrote...

No doubt at all - DA2 is the far supior game.

I died a little inside.

And I'm  pretty sure I broke an aneurysm.

Eyes flooding with blood...that can't be good.

At least if I go blind I won't have to read another one of your posts (probably along the line of ''Halo is so much bater then Planscape'') or go through another failure of a game by Bioware.

[A5ko]

I am enjoying DA2, but it is nowhere near Baldur's Gate. Infact the only gme that ever came close was Planescape... go figure.

Although you could argue Planescape had the better story.. but that disccusion if for another day.

[BaronIveagh]

Anyone saying that DA 2 is as good as or better then Baldur's Gate (other then maybe Dark Alliance) is trolling.

[Ryllen Laerth Kriel]

Thanks OP, you reminded me to install BG on my new laptop! Every year I get inspired to run through BG 1 or 2 (or both). I have no such desire to play DA 2.

[AngelicMachinery]

BG1 is way over rated, BG2 is not.

[TheKnave69]

Myounage wrote...

BG2 supported mice .. right?

I know it supported hamsters, Boo.

[Acrn]

BaronIveagh wrote...

Anyone saying that DA 2 is as good as or better then Baldur's Gate (other then maybe Dark Alliance) is trolling.

Yes, because if someone has a different opinion from you it MUST mean they're trolling...

[Squire]

Dragon Age 2's combat is pretty much a genocide simulator.

Hawke kills more men than the 5 Blights combined.

This is one of my biggest gripes in just about all modern RPGs, actually - what I've come to call "Bloodbath Style Combat". Every encounter you come across, you can expect the number of deaths to reach bloodbath proportions. Expect to kill close to 100 people in the process of investigating a single building, and somehow this fails to cause a population crisis.

Origins also had this, to some extent; the number of foes often bordered on the insane. This is one of the many things I prefer about the old Baldur's Gate games; enemies had more realistic numbers, but each one was challenging.

But I suppose the majority want bloodbaths, and so Bioware gives them bloodbaths. I just find it so unrealistic.

[Paul E Dangerously]

Apples and oranges.

[BaronIveagh]

Acrn wrote...

BaronIveagh wrote...

Anyone saying that DA 2 is as good as or better then Baldur's Gate (other then maybe Dark Alliance) is trolling.

Yes, because if someone has a different opinion from you it MUST mean they're trolling...

Having an opinion is one thing.  Having an opinion that is blatently meant to provoke people is another.

[Haexpane]

Lennonkun wrote...

Baldur's Gate 2 is far better.

Anyone who thinks otherwise is a troll and has never played Baldur's Gate.

This x10000

[Myounage]

Haexpane wrote...

Lennonkun wrote...

Baldur's Gate 2 is far better.

Anyone who thinks otherwise is a troll and has never played Baldur's Gate.

This x10000

yeap.

[bill4747bill]

cosgamer wrote...

No self respecting gamer who has played both games in their respective time periods could compare DA 2 to BG 2. The latter was a trend-setting, epic game. The former a silly attempt at joining genres and a blatant attempt at stealing money. DA 2 worth $60? No way. $25 would be pushing it with its short play time, shallow storyline and characters, and repeated areas.

People who disagree with you lack self respect. Got it!

[Mack_Attack]

Squire wrote...

Dragon Age 2's combat is pretty much a genocide simulator.

Hawke kills more men than the 5 Blights combined.

This is one of my biggest gripes in just about all modern RPGs, actually - what I've come to call "Bloodbath Style Combat". Every encounter you come across, you can expect the number of deaths to reach bloodbath proportions. Expect to kill close to 100 people in the process of investigating a single building, and somehow this fails to cause a population crisis.

Origins also had this, to some extent; the number of foes often bordered on the insane. This is one of the many things I prefer about the old Baldur's Gate games; enemies had more realistic numbers, but each one was challenging.

But I suppose the majority want bloodbaths, and so Bioware gives them bloodbaths. I just find it so unrealistic.

To be fair, in Origins it actually makes sense because the whole point of the game is to quell the Blight, which is a massive invasion. In II, it seems there are far more bandits and thugs than actual citizens of Kirkwall.

[Myounage]

Mack_Attack wrote...

Squire wrote...

Dragon Age 2's combat is pretty much a genocide simulator.

Hawke kills more men than the 5 Blights combined.

This is one of my biggest gripes in just about all modern RPGs, actually - what I've come to call "Bloodbath Style Combat". Every encounter you come across, you can expect the number of deaths to reach bloodbath proportions. Expect to kill close to 100 people in the process of investigating a single building, and somehow this fails to cause a population crisis.

Origins also had this, to some extent; the number of foes often bordered on the insane. This is one of the many things I prefer about the old Baldur's Gate games; enemies had more realistic numbers, but each one was challenging.

But I suppose the majority want bloodbaths, and so Bioware gives them bloodbaths. I just find it so unrealistic.

To be fair, in Origins it actually makes sense because the whole point of the game is to quell the Blight, which is a massive invasion. In II, it seems there are far more bandits and thugs than actual citizens of Kirkwall.

That's because of LOL REINFORCEMENTS THIS LOTS OF FUN RITE?

[koshiee]

it's too different and BG2 was so long ago. I think the BG series was a pretty epic story with a very satisfying ending. I can see in DA they are trying to build up to something so I will wait to judge until the story more or less ends. Right now I feel like DAO and DA2 are like the prologues or background codex to the main story.

[JabbaDaHutt30]

Myounage wrote...

So PC gamer gave this a 94. Another game they gave a 94 to was Baldur's Gate. Lol?

EDIT: Baldur's Gate II: Shadows of Amn holds a 91. Make of this what you will.

rosebud, there are plenty of sites around who rated other RPG's higher than Baldur's Gate.

[Narreneth]

Lennonkun wrote...

Baldur's Gate 2 is far better.

Anyone who thinks otherwise is a troll and has never played Baldur's Gate.

People who disagree with you are trolls?  The accuracy of all things you say must be astounding.

[garetjaxx006]

BG2 is one of the best RPGs ever made.

DA2, while good and enjoyable, is not the sort of title that will have people arguing over the relative strength of character builds, party makeup, etc ten years later.

So... nope.

[Bibdy]

Ahh the wonderful world of nostalgia. I wonder how many people praising their awesomeness have loaded up either BG1 or BG2 lately and recall all of the horribly bad things about them. I spend 90% of my combat time battling the interface to keep my casters casting and the vast majority of the spells I end up casting are just simple heals. Tons and tons of the dialogue options do nothing to affect the outcome of anything - informational options are lumped in with decision options making exploring all the outcomes an enormous chore. Quest-givers aren't explicit, so you have to run around talking to literally every stationary person to figure out if they've got some worthwhile dialogue.

I love the old Infinity engine games. I've been hankering to play BG1 and explore Durlag's Tower again for a while now (and I'll probably end up dragging whatever character I make through the entire series for the 20-somethingth time). PST is far-and-away the greatest story-telling gaming experience of my life to-date. But, at least I'm man enough to admit these early games from my childhood have glaring problems with them.

[Balerion84]

Well, they also said that DA2 is the best RPG of the decade. A DECADE. In 2011. I think that says all you need to know about credibility of their review even if DA2 deserved that score.

[HawXV2]

BG has problems. I'm tired of everyone going "BG IS SO PERFECTZ!!!" It was good. 15 years ago. I find myself enjoying BioWare's recent titles much more than BG.