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AcidRelic

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Quick and maybe stupid question but, can you side with the templars if you are a mage??

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MKDAWUSS

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I would think so, but I don't know as I've played a warrior from start to finish.

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AcidRelic

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I would think she knows your a mage so the right of annulment applies to you(me) too. I just want to side with her 1)To keep Fenris happy as I am romancing him and want to use him in my group, so to keep friendship I have to take her view of things. 2) The achievement.

For the achievement I know it would be easier to side with her as a warrior or rouge but I've played an archer rouge and warrior doesn't appeal to me like the mage (using in combat anyway).

Modifié par AcidRelic, 13 mars 2011 - 02:16 .


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Augustei

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Yeah you can side with them, Meredith betrays you though but all the templars still stand with you =D. She said its because im a maleficar. What does she say if your not a mage? Does she still betray you?

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I watched a video with a mage at that point, and Merideth asks you to side with her. The person in question chooses not to, so I don't know what actually would have happened. It seems like it would be odd to side with the Templars- aren't they going to kill you, in the end, after you've taken out the circle?

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Yes, you can side with Meredith as a mage. You need to for the Achievement, but Fenris can end up siding with you even if you side with the mages (ask him to join you - "freedom from slavery" option).

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I think the right of annulment applies to Circle Magi, others are killed/captured anyway. So while the fate is the same, the Commander would be foolish to go against the most important figure in the city, if she can avoid it.

Anyway, I played as mage on my first run though and it was possible, I didn't do it, but it was possible. I personally regret it that I didn't pick it though.

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Yes, you can. She is willing to overlook your nature, since you're the most powerful figure in all the Free Marches. I played a mage, was given the option, and felt forced to side with the mages once the words "Right of Annulment" came out of Meredith's mouth.

F-ing Anders...

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Adugan

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I dont know who would side with the templars though. You would be slaughtering your own sister, and Meredith is an up-tight b**** with a ten foot pole up her you-know-what.

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AcidRelic wrote...

I would think she knows your a mage so the right of annulment applies to you(me) too. I just want to side with her 1)To keep Fenris happy as I am romancing him and want to use him in my group, so to keep friendship I have to take her view of things. 2) The achievement.

For the achievement I know it would be easier to side with her as a warrior or rouge but I've played an archer rouge and warrior doesn't appeal to me like the mage (using in combat anyway).


<< Mage.  Sided with the Mages. Max Fenris friendship.  He left for a bit, but when I sided with the mages I had an option in the dialog, something about being a free slave meaning something and he came back to my side and tanked the fight with the templars for me.

You don't need to side with the Templars to keep Fenris if you're friendly at least.

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ExiledMimic

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If Fenris is maxed in friendship with you he'll jump sides to the mages with you. Even if not I think you can still tell him when you see him next that he's helping kill slaves and he has a change of heart. Either way it really doesn't feel like it fits too well.

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You could regardless of your class, but it's sound crazy If mage would side with Templar and brought genocide upon their fellow mage.

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AcidRelic

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I know you can keep Fen and side with mages, I did in my 1st playthrough. I just wanted to know if you could side with Templars as a mage so I could get that achievement LOL. I also think, even with me as a mage, if Meredith wasn't so crazy, I would support templars because I think we need some sort of oversight, maybe not as strict but something.

I mean look at DA:O, they all are not that bad, the Knight-Commander .... whats his name and Enchanter Irving were friends even though he was Tempar leader and Irving was mage leader.

Modifié par AcidRelic, 17 mars 2011 - 04:32 .


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Lithuasil

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AcidRelic wrote...

I know you can keep Fen and side with mages, I did in my 1st playthrough. I just wanted to know if you could side with Templars as a mage so I could get that achievement LOL. I also think, even with me as a mage, if Meredith wasn't so crazy, I would support templars because I think we need some sort of oversight, maybe not as strict but something.


You can, even as a mage - it just doesn't mage the slightest bit of sense. And while I technically agree on the necessity of some sort of failsafes regarding magic, name a single templar throughout both games that isn't retarded - there's carver and then there's nothing, putting templars on roughly the same intellectual level as marbari.

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Adugan wrote...

I dont know who would side with the templars though. You would be slaughtering your own sister, and Meredith is an up-tight b**** with a ten foot pole up her you-know-what.

You need not kill bethany and you can force meredith to not follow through with the rite of annulment.

Luth there is Greigor. There is Cullen. There is Thrask. There are the countless nameless templars who bow to you at the end.

Modifié par Pileyourbodies, 17 mars 2011 - 04:34 .


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I only sided with the mages because of Bethany. So now I'm their Lincoln although I want all mages to be in proper Circles with templar oversight, to be wheeled out in case of the odd Qunari invasion/Blight

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Pileyourbodies wrote...


Luth there is Greigor. There is Cullen. There is Thrask. There are the countless nameless templars who bow to you at the end.


There's a guy who wanted to tranquilize or at least lock up the mage-warden for doing exactly what she was told, and who wanted to annul perfectly fine children that had set up their camp and defenses within comfortable yelling distance of the very door he was guarding.
There's a knight captain who preaches to me for five minutes how mages are less then human, talking to three apostates that just saved his ass by raining fire from the sky.
There's a guy who considers it reasonable to leave his own daughter with slavers, and who makes the most axe crazy, most unstable bloodmage in all of kirkwall his second in command.
Theres half a dozen people with a basic sense of self preservation.

My point wasn't that there aren't any good intentioned templars, my point is even those who are, are still colossal morons.