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[Mezzidriel]

Ariella wrote...

DrekorSilverfang wrote...

Majspuffen wrote...

tkaz85 wrote...

Given how that entire sequence played out, I believe that Loghain makes a MUCH better Grey Warden than Alastair. He has a certain pragmatism that Alastair simply lacks.

Perhaps, but leaving the king and his armies to die, poisoning the arl, taking part of slavery etc... I hate him almost as much as Alistair does.

Doing whatever it takes to achieve his goals... sounds like a good grey warden to me. Much better than the Alastair who seems to perpetually have a rod jammed up his ass.

Actually, Loghain as a leader sucks. Good leaders take responsibilty for the actions of those who serve under them. Loghain's crap about "Howe was an adult, I'm not responsible for what he did..." goes far to prove how lousy a king he'd actually be. As for the slavery, it's a slippery slope. First of all, he's willing to violate not only the LAW but the Prophet Andreste's edict freeing elves. If he's willing to do that, what other laws and freedoms would he be willing to trample given time.

His paranoia is his undoing.... Personally, I just wish there was a way to gank Aonora while I was at it. I've been thinking up various ways of getting rid of her, though my favorite is dropping her in the deep roads with a butter knife and one of her ball gowns. That or throwing her into the Dead Trenches.... Let her become a brood mother.

I like the way you think.

[Saurel]

Ashimmu wrote...

Rattleface wrote...

Also, the -deal- he made with Tevinter was small.  If he had half their nation come and enslave all the commoners and lowlies, yeah, he'd be a bad sob, but there was only a few Tevinters and only elves taken away.  Elves are hardly part of Ferelden society and they had already started an uprising.  Besides, they're xenophobic little pricks.

Wait wait wait...elves, xenophobic? ELVES? Really? Are we playing the same game?

Dalish are pretty xenophobic, if you aren't being sarcasitc. One can say for good reason. But a lot of them definitely show xenophobic signs.

[Mezzidriel]

Saurel wrote...

Ashimmu wrote...

Rattleface wrote...

Also, the -deal- he made with Tevinter was small.  If he had half their nation come and enslave all the commoners and lowlies, yeah, he'd be a bad sob, but there was only a few Tevinters and only elves taken away.  Elves are hardly part of Ferelden society and they had already started an uprising.  Besides, they're xenophobic little pricks.

Wait wait wait...elves, xenophobic? ELVES? Really? Are we playing the same game?

Dalish are pretty xenophobic, if you aren't being sarcasitc. One can say for good reason. But a lot of them definitely show xenophobic signs.

I personally find no fault with their xenophobic nature.  After all, if you'd had your homelands destroyed and been seized for slaves and killed as heathens - not once but twice, wouldn't you be a little wary of outsiders too?

[The Angry One]

Well let's see, first the elves were enslaved for generations by Tevinter, then their second homeland was destroyed by descendants of the same people THEY HELPED against the Imperium just because they didn't worship the Chantry's chosen sky pixie.

Now elves who live with humans are treated like dirt, and the Dalish clans are constantly harassed and mistreated by roving human bands. I think the xenophobia is just a little justifiable.



On Loghain. Yes, he does do what he feels needs to be done. The problem is, he's an idiot. His decisions would've destroyed the country he claimed to love.