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Cripes I feel SO BAD for my Hawke....((spoilers))


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JnEricsonx

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Lets see..his sister was killed by a Ogre, his brother has gone off for Maker knows how long as a Grey Warden, and his mother was used in some necromantic experiment.  Yeah....Bioware is doing wonders at the emotional reaction in this game, no joke,

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HawXV2

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Yeah, it's depressing.

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JnEricsonx

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I dont suppose if I DONT waste Gascard in his home that this doesn't happen?

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MKDAWUSS

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It's a railroaded event.

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JnEricsonx wrote...

I dont suppose if I DONT waste Gascard in his home that this doesn't happen?


It's unavoidable.

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ThatDancingTurian

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I felt the exact same way. By the third act I was just thoroughly depressed. It's like nothing can go right for Hawke, he/she spends the game only out to protect his/her family and fails at every turn, saves the city only to see a bigger problem pop up in its wake, tries to help and protect people only for them to be killed later on or worse.

Kirkwall sucks, seriously. The Hawke family should've gone back to Ferelden after the Deep Roads.

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Hawke is pool soul ... his whole family can be murdered by something, someone.

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Harorrd

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atleast hawke became king :D

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I just watched my sister die to the darkspawn plague... Made me stop playing for a few hours lol. I was pissed i didnt take anders to save her. Or just take anders instead of her. But as i read on she gets shafted to the circle anyway so i am not so shattered now lol

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Heck, if you romance Fenris he basically breaks up with you for a ridiculously long time. My Hawke had just lost her boyfriend right before she found out her mother was kidnapped and killed. Yeah, Fenris supposedly comes back later (He didn't in my first playthrough, I think because I never got him to 100%?) but my character doesn't know that. D:

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Cypher0020

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I literally screamed you son of a b***** when I saw what he did too Leandra..... ahhhhh!

I lost Bethany... I got Carver to join the Wardens thank goodness....but good grief! I was freakin' numb by the end of Act II and all of Act III..... and I'm still shaking after I've seen the ending.....

MageHawke+Anders FTW BTW

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I freaking cried when I saw what happened to Leandra. I don't even care if that makes me super lame. That was messed up. Her mom's head on someone else's body, all while in this farcical wedding outfit.

Can I just say how much I loved it that Hawke is crazy distraught afterwords? Because I did.

Also, my run-through didn't have Carver joining the Wardens. He joined the Templars. I'm assuming this is a friendship/rivalry thing? If so, awesome.

Modifié par pixieface, 13 mars 2011 - 09:54 .


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I agree with most of the people in this thread, I felt really bad for Hawke starting at the end of act 1 and going into the rest of the game. On my mage play through I didn't take Carver to the deep roads so he joined the Templars and was gone most of the game, on my rogue Bethany was taken to be a Warden so was gone also. When act 3 finally rolled around I really found it hard to care about the over all templar vs mage fighting. I was like let Carver and the Templar's wipe out the mages on my mage play I don't care, if they come after me later then I'll deal with it. On my rogue I figured Bethany was clear why should I get involved. The only way I would felt like I had to get involved is if they had taken Bethany to the Circle and that would of been just to protect her not the other mages. If either had died in the deep roads I'd of really seen no point for Hawke to get involved and should of just packed up and left Kirkwall with his/her partner.

Modifié par Shadowrun1177, 13 mars 2011 - 10:14 .


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Thing is, it's okay for a dark RPG like Dragon Age 2 to be dramatical, depressing and sad and all that stuff.

BUT the Championshould have the option to change his/her family's fate. What bothered me most was that everything was inevitable.

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ThatDancingTurian

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Ayachi wrote...

Thing is, it's okay for a dark RPG like Dragon Age 2 to be dramatical, depressing and sad and all that stuff.

BUT the Championshould have the option to change his/her family's fate. What bothered me most was that everything was inevitable.

I agree. I wish at least one person in the Hawke family could have had a happy ending. Given what they've done with the Warden and how similar it is to what happened to Revan in KotOR, I can't imagine Hawke will have a happily ever after. A hero can't settle down and have a quiet life when the fighting's over, apparently.

I actually feel the worst for Carver, because his options are dying, getting infected with the taint, or becoming addicted to lyrium (and getting involved in what I imagine will be a very gruesome civil war in years to come). I had hoped early on I could set him up with someone, get him to carry on the family name.

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Ayachi wrote...
What bothered me most was that everything was inevitable.


This, I like it when people can die. I like it more when you can save them, it makes having them die have more of a meaning. Makes you feel like you actually failed.

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Bethany can have a sort of happy ending if you save her, you'll both hug at the end. I initially sided with the mages but was talked into the Templars so when Orsino pulled his last ditch move she fought with me and we hugged n'stuffs.

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Ayachi wrote...

What bothered me most was that everything was inevitable.


I like it more like this personally. Now people won't simply reload until everything is okay, Hawke has to suffer tragedy and he's human just like everybody else. He can't make everything better.

Modifié par Dave of Canada, 13 mars 2011 - 11:06 .


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Ayachi

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Well, with the sibling's options either:
die in the Deep Roads
become a Templar/Circle Mage
or a Warden and having about 30 years to live, give or take

it's not exactly a happy future. Least they can do good and have a purpose as a Warden (and strive to become like the Fereldan Hero as well *cough*)

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Well, isn't it possible for Merril to be possesed if you don't ask the keeper to interfere when doing the quest about the Eluvian? If so imagine how many deaths can Hawke encounter: Carver Dying, Later Bethany, Then Mother, and then even his LI. Heh

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ThatDancingTurian

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ashthehorrorfan wrote...

Bethany can have a sort of happy ending if you save her, you'll both hug at the end. I initially sided with the mages but was talked into the Templars so when Orsino pulled his last ditch move she fought with me and we hugged n'stuffs.

Wh.. What? I call foul!! At least three seperate instances Carver popped back up in Hawke's life and every time I wanted a hug and never got it. Fail of the highest magnitude! The Order Dictates Hawke family hugs! .. I shall have to make him a Templar and see if they still deny me my hug.

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I agree. By the end, I was just depressed. In act 1, I figure, okay life is hard for Hawke but at least she has her family. Bethany is promptly taken away. Well, at least she has her mom. Mom is murdered. Well, at least she has Anders... FML. Suffice to say, by the time the whole Anders thing happened, I figured she would have a meltdown if the was forced to kill him too. So instead she pissed people off, spared him, and got the hell out of there first chance she could.

Honestly, by Act 2, I just wanted them to pull up and move back to Ferelden. Screw buying a giant empty house in Hightown. Use that money to get out of this screwed up city. Oh, and I wanted to take Anders with me while I was at it and get him a cat. Maybe then he'd regain some of his sanity. >_>

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By the time the credits rolled, I just felt empty. I certainly didn't have the "I did okay" satisfaction I had at the end of DAO. My Hawke was a kind, straightforward person who couldn't catch any kind of break. Brother dead, sister taken by the Circle, mother murdered, full rivalry with Merrill because she wouldn't see reason, Anders going all Guy Fawkes, Fenris siding against her. The only bright spots were that Bethany lived, the friendship of the remaining companions, and Isabela's declaration of love.
So much for "Kirkwall is home now." So much for rising to power. At least Isabela has a ship: I hope Hawke is using it to take a vacation.

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Indeed. My Hawke went from a wisecracking smartass using humor to alleviate stress to a broken down, emotionless stoic trying his hardest to work with the peaceful solution just so no one else had to die (went from smiling mask to olive branch exclusive). In Act II, Merill commented on Hawke's ability to "make anything better with a smile."

No one ever said anything like that again by Act III.

Edit: ... Merill=/=Meredith. I feel somewhat unclean at the mistaken association.

Modifié par Doc Faust, 13 mars 2011 - 06:29 .


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Doc Faust wrote...

Indeed. My Hawke went from a wisecracking smartass using humor to alleviate stress to a broken down, emotionless stoic trying his hardest to work with the peaceful solution just so no one else had to die (went from smiling mask to olive branch exclusive). In Act II, Merill commented on Hawke's ability to "make anything better with a smile."

No one ever said anything like that again by Act III.

Edit: ... Merill=/=Meredith. I feel somewhat unclean at the mistaken association.

QFT.

By the end I felt at the least that my Hawke's innocence and optimism had been thoroughly beaten out of her.