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[Garran]

UBER GEEKZILLA wrote...

I SAY ALL YOU HATERS CAN EAT IT.
YOU SHOULD ALL BE ASHAMED FOR THE WAY YOU TREAT BIOWARE. i like this
game just find if you dont then FINE, but NONE OF YOU have the right to
simply give up on them FOR ONE GAME

People have the right to spend their own money however they see fit.

UBER GEEKZILLA wrote...

why does everyone bash their dlc, their only 500 to 800 microsoft points its not that much. and frankley i though the pre order signiture editon for 20 dollars worth of dlc for free trick was very generous

Well thank EA then. That decision was down to them.

[billy the squid]

I've managed to drag myself through to the third Act of the game on hard and really certain aspects of it are just painful. Overall, areas have improved, but other aspects which made origins such fun have been "streamlined" leaving me with the feeling that they took the game gutted it left the bones of an RPG and crammed a load of action and combat without regard as to how it meshes with level design or reusing scenery repeatedly

I think the major issue can be summed up in online interviews, i'm para phrasing here so...

"push a button and something awsome happens"

what am I 10?, do i have problems with delayed gratification? You might as well dangled a bunch of keys infront of players and said "look at the shiny shiny!"

That may sound a bit harsh, but really, there is nothing wrong with speeding up combat or making it more responsive but keep it reasonable! the game appears to focus massively on improving combat, but somehow forgot the other elements which made DA O so great. No I'm not asking for a rehash DA O 2, I'm slightly perplexed as to why aspects which recieved little to no criticism have become so stripped down.

My opinion may change as i continue to progress, but like several posters i remain dissapointed and am very unlikely to but the inevitable DLC and shall remain suspect of DA3. Dark Souls has actually caught my attention now, as i was flicking through the online reviews of DA2, hows that for irony

[Jono1319]

I'm having a really hard time understanding people who can defend Bioware (EA) right now. I too am one of the "fanboys" who started with the BG series, so of course I would be the first to back them, right? With a good game absolutely, but this a ok game at best.

The reason I am ok with bashing Bioware right now is because they completely asked for it. How could they honestly put out a 30 hour game (which no one has mentioned yet that i have seen) and almost complete game based on quest system based on 1 city out on the shelves?

This whole crap about them needing money and it's hard for companies to make money is bs. Tell Bethesda and Valve that you need to make an Elder Scrolls/Half Life game in a little over a year. They would laugh and say no we want to put a quality game out there. I know not everyone loves those games but they can respect the hundreds of hours the Elder Scrolls games have as well as the quality in the half life series.

When Bioware puts a 30 hour game on the shelves it is a sad day. I thought the 30 hour awakening add on was bad for $40 bucks...

PLEASE Bioware make it right with downloadable content or future titles.

[AlanC9]

Lennonkun wrote...

Actually no, they really don't care. As said DA2 was a massive case of "we told you this wouldn't work". What did Bioware do? They claimed this would just be a depression cycle and everyone would come to accept it.

Where did they say "everyone" would accept it? What I heard was that some folks wouldn't accept the changes, and others would.

If you've got an actual quote where someone says that everyone was going to like DA2, I'd love to read it.

[hemeh01]

Bioware is an illusion. There are only EA now.
It is like the cake or this new "cloud computing", or politicians...

[zkaizer]

[quote]JohnnyDollar wrote...

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DAO didn't hold much replay value with me, but my biggest gripe with it is technical issues(crashes).  I really like ME1 and 2.  If DA2 is just a bump in the road, then that'll be great.  Let's just say that I'm not as optimistic about the future of Bioware as you are.

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The technical issues with DAO (namely the last patch) is the one thing I continue to be ticked off about. Bioware basically left the DAO PC Technical Support Forum to a bunch of fans who blame everything BUT the last patch! Bioware said they are 'collecting data' but this was months ago. People are having problems with CtD with their Ultimate Edition and it's like Bioware said "screw DAO". Companies worry me when they do this. I will await to see if they can turn it around but for now, they're in the doghouse with a lot of people.

[wicked_being]

I wonder if people were like this too when they released Origins.

[Arkman111]

I just completed the game and was shocked when it ended. I didn't hate it exactly as some have stated in there opinions of the game but it was definitely not as good as the first. I beat the game and the side quests in 27 hours. That's insanely short compared to origins. I was mostly just annoyed by how different this game was. The story had slight mention of other happenings but half the time I couldn understand the timeline between this and origins. I was angered by gameinformers 8.5 or w/e it was but after completion I believe it deserved an 8. I would have loved more areas too. Wtf is with the same places over and over. Really could have been a great game.

[asaiasai]

2papercuts wrote...

to be fair, I think that the reaction is combinded with that of ME2, where this is the second simplified game,

that doesn't make it a bad game, but Bioware seems to be going in a direction some don't like

In a nut shell.

Asai

[Buffy-Summers]

Trashing them for one bad game does not bash them for their previous or future games

How can they know whats wrong and how to fix it if we stay silent?

Instead of being up in their ivory tower they should be down here in the trenches or maybe another chat.

The post should be entitled, "Why we have a far worse metacritic score, and how to fix it"

[Enscar]

Also a fellow huge fan of Bioware here, just finished Dragon Age II and I have to admit it does feel very rushed especially in comparison to DA:O. But given how quick it came out I wasn't expecting much else.. I hope they put a bit more time into DA3, I'd be willing to wait longer just for a longer more indepth RPG.. I hope this isn't the new direction from EA's influence..

[Enscar]

Also a fellow huge fan of Bioware here, just finished Dragon Age II and I have to admit it does feel very rushed especially in comparison to DA:O. But given how quick it came out I wasn't expecting much else.. I hope they put a bit more time into DA3, I'd be willing to wait longer just for a longer more indepth RPG..  I hope this isn't the new direction from EA's influence..

[KayakBama]

Companies change, and the core group of developers that made the games of bioware's past may not be the people directly overseeing the projects of today. I haven't played Dragon Age II, and I'm on the fence as to whether or not I will purchase the game after a price drop because of the rather allergic reaction to the release, which, conspiracy theories aside, is much more prevalent then the criticisms that normally emerge with any game release I've followed. Bioware has a great library of games, and I have fond memories of playing many of them. Does that mean I will lament over heavy criticism of a title that sounds like it is moving away from bioware's past game formula? Heck no, and I hope poor game sales resonate with bioware. Making console-centric games should not translate into making games for the lowest common denominator (I don't mean that as a jibe at console gamers, and I'm not the one you should be insulted by). The fact of the matter is EA has a record of leeching the life out of game developers until they are a lifeless husk of their former selves and then dissolving that branch when it cannot make anymore profit. As a fan, I think it would be foolish to not have concerns over what this means for a favorite game developer.

[Arontala22]

Yes, people have the right to criticize the game. They do NOT, however, have the right to go onto a privately owned website and literally call EA the "devil" or "cancer", because they didn't like a game they put out. If you do that on another website, I have no problem with it whatsoever.

[Realmjumper]

Here's my point of view.

Dear EA Games/ Bioware,

Hello you might have no idea who I am but that's ok, I have played your games for close to 20 years now. Recently you released your new game Dragon Age 2. I definitely am liking the concept behind it but I honestly feel the game needed a good 6-12 months more to be what standard quality that I respect Bioware to deliver.

It's not just me that is saying this though, even though your game scored above average on many review outlets they all have a similar tone in the way they are writing their reviews. There is backtracking to previous areas and less of new areas like Dragon Age: Origins. Now me comparing the game to Dragon Age: Origins might be unfair since that game was a 5 year development cycle. However it is one I will come back to because I honestly feel that Dragon Age: Origins is a much better game.

I also think to make the quality game you where shooting for you need a solid 3 years. Just look at Deus Ex: Human Revolution one of your competitors being Square Enix. They announced the game back in 2007 or 2008 and now they are releasing in 2011. So roughly 3 years give or take a few months and I think you can have that quality game that will sell much more than a game that is out in 2 years or so.

However don't take my word for it. Why not read the article from Kotaku which confirmed much of what I thought was happening with Dragon Age 2. http://ca.kotaku.com...ame-out-so-soon

Just to conclude I'm not here to tell you how to do your job. I'm just giving my point of view from an outsiders perspective. The bottom line is though if you want to sell more, then let the developers have the time they need to complete their masterpiece. Dragon Age 2 could of been much more then what it currently is. That's just my point of view though.

[Arontala22]

yay double post!

Modifié par Arontala22, 14 mars 2011 - 11:15 .

[lltoon]

Turnip Root wrote...

Even if you believe Dragon Age II is inferior to it's predecessor that does not automatically mean that Bioware is now terrible.  Zelda II and Mario 2 are considered by most to be inferior to the original games but they're still nonetheless considered solid games that are worthy additions to their respective franchises.  I imagine Dragon Age II will be remembered the same way.

This post is getting a bit preachy so let me just conclude by reminding people that this company you're utterly trashing is the same company that brought us Mass Effect 1 and 2, Dragon Age:Origins, Baldur's Gate I&II, Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic, MDK II, all of which are considered some of the best games ever made, they deserve respect even when it comes to criticism.

Keep in mind that it's not the company's history that everyone is worried about, it where the company is going in the future. Judging from this trend, i'm not so optimistic.

[Zulu_DFA]

UBER GEEKZILLA wrote...

seriosly if people bash bioware like this they may go bankrupcy and we will be stuck with CRAP LIKE SQUARE ENIX AND INFINITY WARD. IS THAT WHAT YOU PEOPLE WANT.

Infinity Ward? You mean the company BioWare aspires to share the customer base with? I can see no reason to be shared with BioWare, thanks. Since Infinity Ward satisfies my CoD needs pretty damn well, BioWare may go bankrupt or whatever. Maybe in their last ditch effort they'll  try bring dialogue wheels into their bosses' Battlefield series, and we'll see how it goes.

[TwistedComplex]

Lennonkun wrote...

Seriously, Gaider likes Twilight. And we expect this man to write romance? Give me a break.

Uh, the guy wrote for Baulders Gate, bro

[Arontala22]

 People have the right to criticize the game. I'm fine with that. They do not, however, have the right to come on a privately owned website, and insult the intelligence of members of bioware and EA, and act like children, simply because they didn't get what they wanted. It's disgusting. 

[kozzy420420]

haters gonna hate.

[rebeltube]

It feels like supporting a football club your whole life who suffered a big defeat... that's what I'm feeling right now.

I hope to God Bioware can prove all these doubters wrong when they release another game... I really do!

Prove them wrong Bioware... prove them wrong!

[rebeltube]

It feels like supporting a football club your whole life who suffered a big defeat... that's what I'm feeling right now.

I hope to God Bioware can prove all these doubters wrong when they release another game... I really do!

Prove them wrong Bioware... prove them wrong!

[Asch Lavigne]

I can understand not liking the game but what is it about DA2 that is making everyone so upset? The only thing I majorly disliked was the handling of the plot. Maybe I'm naive or missing it but all I see are people yelling at Bioware for selling out and blaming them for this and that but I have yet to understand why people are saying these things. The only thing I can say I understand is the PC users feeling screwed because this time the game had a console emphasis. Is it because DA2 is not like Origins, sequels are rarely anything like their previous installments. I guess it's just me because I really don't get it. There are things I disliked about DA2 and ME2 as well but I'm not attacking anyone.

[rebeltube]

It feels like supporting a football club your whole life who suffered a big defeat... that's what I'm feeling right now.

I hope to God Bioware can prove all these doubters wrong when they release another game... I really do!

Prove them wrong Bioware... prove them wrong!