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[thegreateski]

What? The notoriously wealthy and famous Hawke is a mage? We should go arrest him right away! There's no way that he would resist and use his influence with the Viscount/general population to raise hell!

[GammaRayJim]

mander83 wrote...

I just kind of assumed that my mage was hiding her mage-ness during the first act and part of the second. By the time Act III starts Meredith has acknowledged that fact that you're a mage but doesn't do anything because you're the Champion of Kirkwall.

I've had way more fun playing as a mage than I did as a rogue. I noticed several differences in dialogue between a rogue and a mage. It's true that in reality Hawke probably would have been caught sometime in Act I for using magic in the streets. Here's the thing though, this isn't reality. What kind of game would it be if Hawke is caught and put in the Circle? Not a very good one.

No I agree you would not have much of a game if you were caught upon arriving in Kirkwall. My point is that with such a large Circle and great number of Templars in Kirkwall doesn't it stand to reason that you would have some questions to answer. Wouldn't it make sense that you would have to lie to some of the authorities in order to remain free of being inducted into the Circle. "No Serrah this is just a walking stick it may look like a mages staff but I assure you I am no mage". You know lie to cover it up until you do secure your position and then can tell everyone to go to jump off a bridge.

[moilami]

I play the game with three mage party. One blood mage, one abdomination, and me myself proud maleficar even though not blood mage.*

However I have seen rouges and zweihanders are like mages too, none is just talking how dangerous they can be. Can rouges in DA2 by the way cast invisibility spell? Dwarf rouge can shoot fireballs and mind control people. I have watched he have potential to to turn invicible too. And what about the arrow which hits everything on straight line? Lol. Rouge is damn dangerous killa in DA2.

And what about templars? 100% magic resistance can make you unstoppable to mages even. **


* Edit: And lol none has said anything about abdomination, blood mage, and maleficar running around.

** Edit: Would roll archer rouge on on MP server for ultimate PWNZOR.

Modifié par moilami, 19 mars 2011 - 01:32 .

[TexasToast712]

Harcken wrote...
Bioware: "Based on fan feedback we have decided to delete the mage class since it makes no sense, story wise."

I support this.

[moilami]

TexasToast712 wrote...

Harcken wrote...
Bioware: "Based on fan feedback we have decided to delete the mage class since it makes no sense, story wise."

I support this.

Rouges > mages.

[Zalocx]

Mostly the fighting you do IN Kirkwall is at night or indoors. So Templars don't see you shoot fireballs all over. The few fights you have in the open that actually leave living witnesses happen at the beginning where a mad rush of refugees makes things hard to investigate (and there were no Templars in sight. Only time I actually fought in the PRESENCE of Templars was End of Act II onwards where Hawke is essentially untouchable politically

[TexasToast712]

moilami wrote...

TexasToast712 wrote...

Harcken wrote...
Bioware: "Based on fan feedback we have decided to delete the mage class since it makes no sense, story wise."

I support this.

Warriors > Rouges > mages.

Fixed. Rogues are just medieval snipers/ninjas and are therefore only cool because everyone is is going "OMFG NINJA/SNIPER, DUAL WIELD/ BOW AND ARROWS ARE COOLIO BRO!"

Ok I admit. Archery is cool.

[gombie]

hes untouchable anyway, its hilarious if you keep taking the joke/funny dialogue, makes him seem like a god amongst ants hah.

[moilami]

Zalocx wrote...

Mostly the fighting you do IN Kirkwall is at night or indoors. So Templars don't see you shoot fireballs all over. The few fights you have in the open that actually leave living witnesses happen at the beginning where a mad rush of refugees makes things hard to investigate (and there were no Templars in sight. Only time I actually fought in the PRESENCE of Templars was End of Act II onwards where Hawke is essentially untouchable politically

The word does not travel? Templars would not heard of three freaky mages WTF PWNing stuff left handedly?

Templars would not get descriptions of those three mages? I have seen rouge templars, they don't do spying?

Templars, as stupid meth lyrium addicts as they are, would not be able to spot my three mages with red haired female warrior as godly havoc makers?

Well, maybe they would spot my team and maybe they would get intelligence reports from rouge templars telling that those 4 are so OP that they could anytime slaughter all templars and whatever other militia there is. Thus they shrug the issue and let the invevitable Rise to Power happen.

[Elessie]

If it would make you feel better you can bring Carver along to gripe at you every time you antagonize the templars.

I did giggle though at Cullen's line to apostate Hawke about how mages are "not like you and me." It was great.

Modifié par Elessie, 19 mars 2011 - 02:07 .

[moilami]

TexasToast712 wrote...

moilami wrote...

TexasToast712 wrote...

Harcken wrote...
Bioware: "Based on fan feedback we have decided to delete the mage class since it makes no sense, story wise."

I support this.

Warriors > Rouges > mages.

Fixed. Rogues are just medieval snipers/ninjas and are therefore only cool because everyone is is going "OMFG NINJA/SNIPER, DUAL WIELD/ BOW AND ARROWS ARE COOLIO BRO!"

Ok I admit. Archery is cool.

Lol.

But I myself like more melee rouges. I never play archers. But for ultimate PVP PWNZOR or solo I might roll a rouge archer. However I haven't up to this day rolled classes I don't like for PvP.

[gombie]

on a serious note, yea it is a bit silly. your an apostate whos never been in the circle, one of yoru companion practices blood magic, another hates the templars and is an abomination (in their eyes).

yet no one confronts you at all, they could have atleast done the baldur's gate 2 approach, with bribery, or fake documents or something... or even have your father's friend who could have been alive, to work under him as a guise.

but no, they just let you run around with a big ass staff shooting fireballs and such at all the unsavoury types in the city... oke.. what if you was a blood mage and was using it during the arishok battle? even if you did save the city, i dont think they would let you off as a blood mage... and it would be a good enough excuse for meredith to get rid of you..

meh.

[moilami]

Elessie wrote...

If it would make you feel better you can bring Carver along to gripe at you every time you antagonize the templars.

I did giggle though at Cullen's line to apostate Hawke about how mages are "not like you and me." It was great.

Carver? Is it the rouge or zweihander? I think it was the zweihander bro. He was very op. Killing machine. Killed my mages too many times while WTF PWNing stuff.

I am much more happy now with abdomination and blood mage + cool tank. I get perverse satisfaction to use good girl Aveline in supporting three mages.

[Darian Tylmare]

Well,if everybody would treat you like all the other mages in the game the mage Hawke storyline would have been a totally different one from the other too. It's just again gameplay and story segregation, because otherwise it would have been to difficult to make it really "realistic" in the games setting.

[moilami]

Darian Tylmare wrote...

Well,if everybody would treat you like all the other mages in the game the mage Hawke storyline would have been a totally different one from the other too. It's just again gameplay and story segregation, because otherwise it would have been to difficult to make it really "realistic" in the games setting.

Gameplay and story segregation makes even adventure games not immersive and thus subpar. Not to speak of RPGs.

[Adynata]

Elessie wrote...

If it would make you feel better you can bring Carver along to gripe at you every time you antagonize the templars.

I did giggle though at Cullen's line to apostate Hawke about how mages are "not like you and me." It was great.

And Hawke tells Cullen flat out she's a mage, and at that point in the game Hawke was not any kind of important Champion.

I'm hoping Cullen didn't arrest her because he was in love with her relative mage warden in my imported save. >.>  I'm just trying to fill in plot holes here.

[moilami]

Adynata wrote...

Elessie wrote...

If it would make you feel better you can bring Carver along to gripe at you every time you antagonize the templars.

I did giggle though at Cullen's line to apostate Hawke about how mages are "not like you and me." It was great.

And Hawke tells Cullen flat out she's a mage, and at that point in the game Hawke was not any kind of important Champion.

I'm hoping Cullen didn't arrest her because he was in love with her relative mage warden in my imported save. >.>  I'm just trying to fill in plot holes here.

I have been thinking that chantry fails very badly in its objectives to slay or even inprison mages.

However I am not fan of this "mages are not people" setting. And with these new X-men warriors and rouges I am even more not fan of it. I see it as social construct and game setting.

[ISpeakTheTruth]

The only time I really thought it was weird that someone didn't comment on me being a mage was the Arishok. Here is a person whoose people see mages as animals that need to be chained and yet when he sees me doing magic he says nothing about it.

Although it could be that because he respected my Hawke that he saw me as an exception to the rule. (Like Sten does for your Warden mage)

[moilami]

ISpeakTheTruth wrote...

The only time I really thought it was weird that someone didn't comment on me being a mage was the Arishok. Here is a person whoose people see mages as animals that need to be chained and yet when he sees me doing magic he says nothing about it.

Although it could be that because he respected my Hawke that he saw me as an exception to the rule. (Like Sten does for your Warden mage)

One of the most ridiculous things happened (to which I though lolled a lot) was when Hawke saw Merrill using blood magic and later asked "The keeper did not tell you are a mage." Rofl I am still unsure was it derp_hawke.jpg or just stupid small talk. My Hawke would had however never said that because he saw very stereotypical mage.


Edit: Could had been sarcasm.

Modifié par moilami, 19 mars 2011 - 08:43 .