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[StingingVelvet]

Heebejeebes wrote...

The game is LONG. The amount of sidequests in the first act alone amounts to more than the whole of any game ever made by Bethesda.

I like this game but that's just not at all true and you have to know it.

The combat is fluid and fun. People are complaining about how theres not enough abilities and its too twitchy. Guess what tards? The real world is twitchy. In the real world people don't take turns swinging at each other standing in one spot because dice is rolling in the background. Continous Turn Based combat is old tech. Twitch combat in RPGs is the next step. CTB combat killed Turn Based Combat in the late 90s and now its run its course. Twitch is gonna kill CTB. Get used to it. The fact that DA:O used CTB was a little outdated to begin with. With games like Elder scrolls, Fallout 3  and Fable using twitch I was a little surprised Origins went the route they did. DA2 is following the trends of the future. If you don't like it, crawl into a hole and play some Baldur's Gate. The rest of the world is done living in 1999. DA:O might have been the spiritual successor to Baldur's Gate but that dosen't mean DA2 has to bow down to its dated tech.

I don't agree that those mechanics are "old" and something to be done away with.  You think we didn't have twitch action games in 1999?  Of course we did, but RPGs were often chosen to use something different.  There is pleasure in variety and difference... I like my action RPGs and I like my turn-based RPGs and I like everything in between.  All I want is diversity, and the trend of every shooter playing like Call of Duty and ever RPG playing like Oblivion is getting tiresome.

[Travie]

The halarious thing about this thread is that Bioware/EA defenders have said that those against the game have been abusive in their language, something that I haven't seen... yet in a post defending Bioware he has more insults then in all of the criticism posts combined in the first couple lines!

[Khaldara]

I actually enjoyed the game, I'll probably give it at least one more playthrough... that having been said, comparing the DA 2 optional quests to optional quests from something like Oblivion, or even Bioware's earlier titles is pretty stupid. 20 variations of "kill mobs outside at night until you find their hideout, then kill their pseudo-boss" and "find random quest item in a box, do nothing other than walk to an npc in kirkwall and collect a pittance" in the same 10 dungeon maps utilizing the exact same artwork with slightly modified barriers in different places doesn't really cut it as a sidequest.

The companion quests sure, those are the usual Bioware quality, you're actually accomplishing a unique goal to help a party member out, occasionally with a choice in the way you deem to resolve it... "find book on ground, bring book to npc that doesnt even engage you in dialogue" repeated ad naseum is not what I'd consider a "side quest". May as well put an extra gold in the barrel and save me the walk back for all the immersion and story value you get there.

This isn't a knock at the gift items, unique companion side or secondary quests that are actually independent of one another... even if they do just recycle the same map as every. other. quest. Those are fun, and you usually are at least rewarded with some story development, character development, or barring that a cutscene or two... But if we're just counting those you'll see the scales tip the other way. By a lot. Corners were cut on content imo, Watcher's Keep was "sidequest content" in BG2, chasing the murderer down for the skin tunic, things like that, THOSE are sidequests. They have unique stories, often have followups, require some amount of intelligence to solve or find... not "pickup A, walk to zone exit. Click kirkwall. Walk to NPC. Profit."

[Marionettetc]

I originally had some hope that this forum would contain some decent gamers, but they are few and far between. That's usually the case with generic boards.

The morale of the story is that gamers are spiteful, nostalgic, xenophobic, stubborn and ultra conservative where it comes to games - and they ALL think they "could have written something better". As far as they are concerned, some 15 year old RPG is the pinnacle of evolution and nothing can ever top it. They refuse to enjoy things for what they are, and fail to point out better alternatives when in the same breath stating [insert current game] is awful.

That's what happens when you spend more time moving characters around than socializing in the real world. I expected some lack of maturity here, but it's really ridiculous how bad the board is.

It's very unfortunate too, because a message board like this is supposed to bring together fans with common interests. It's mostly just used for spewing IRL frustration in an anonymous setting because most gamers feel powerless in reality.

But yeah, I support the OP. I like the game, and name calling won't change the fact I have the freedom to enjoy whatever games I wish.

[Marionettetc]

I originally had some hope that this forum would contain some decent gamers, but they are few and far between. That's usually the case with generic boards.

The morale of the story is that gamers are spiteful, nostalgic, xenophobic, stubborn and ultra conservative where it comes to games - and they ALL think they "could have written something better". As far as they are concerned, some 15 year old RPG is the pinnacle of evolution and nothing can ever top it. They refuse to enjoy things for what they are, and fail to point out better alternatives when in the same breath stating [insert current game] is awful.

That's what happens when you spend more time moving characters around than socializing in the real world. I expected some lack of maturity here, but it's really ridiculous how bad the board is.

It's very unfortunate too, because a message board like this is supposed to bring together fans with common interests. It's mostly just used for spewing IRL frustration in an anonymous setting because most gamers feel powerless in reality.

But yeah, I support the OP. I like the game, and name calling won't change the fact I have the freedom to enjoy whatever games I wish.

[Unseen_77]

ahh so you can have an opinion and say what you want to say yet you are ****ing about those that are doing the same?

Got to love another ****ing about ****ing thread.

[flushfire]

Heebejeebes wrote...

I said what I said. I may have broken the rules of the forums but I felt someone needed to stand up for Bioware in a manner that would gain attention

[flushfire]

Heebejeebes wrote...

I said what I said. I may have broken the rules of the forums but I felt someone needed to stand up for Bioware in a manner that would gain attention

[sympathy4saren]

What's up with all the cake purists? Some people still like their cake made with flour...and icing!!!!! What noobs!!!!!! Screw those cake "purists". I'm with ya heuvo.

[sympathy4saren]

What's up with all the cake purists? Some people still like their cake made with flour...and icing!!!!! What noobs!!!!!! Screw those cake "purists". I'm with ya heuvo.

[Thibbledorf26]

People have different opinions. It is not a fact that the game is amazing, it is an opinion.

And supporters of DA2 are just as loud and rule-breaking as people who dislike it, which you have proven.

You said DA2 is superior to DAO. Someone who prefers DAO could insult you for preferring DA2. It is the same thing you are doing.

You stated characters were deeper in DA2, that is objective opinion, not fact. There is no quantitative way to measure 'deepness'.

You stated RPGs are not about fiddling around with equipment, while a lot of people think it is one of the appeals. That is opinion, not fact.

You stated the combat is ten times more difficult than Origins because you can't heal. Healing isn't the only factor in determining the difficulty of a game, enemy strength, use of tactics, abilities, formation etc. are also a factor.

And your whole post was littered with insults towards people who don't like the game.