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I tried romancing Fenris in the rivalry path. He visited my house at the end of Bitter Pill, and I chose all the flirt options, but he still left anyway, without even a kiss or sex. Anyone know what went wrong? I made sure to ask him what he wanted during Bitter Pill, chose all the flirt options, and even helped the elf girl. I'm above 50 rivalry too.

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Im having the exact same issue

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Did you have the conversation about how he escaped (Question and Believe mid quest conversation)? at the end of that conversation, is there a couple of additional Heart dialog options? If not, you screw up his romance and you probably need to load a previous save to fix it.

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If you have done 'Questioning Beliefs' before 'A Bitter Pill' and your romance score is above 50%, you will then get a heart option to stop him from leaving. But if you didn't.. you didn't screw up. Later, when your score goes up or you 'Questioning Beliefs' he will show up at your estate if you go back at night and a different romance scene will occur.

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You can't sleep with Isabella though.....

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Actually, I'm pretty sure you can sleep with her BEFORE 'A Bitter Pill', as long as you break it off with her afterwards. Or tell her it was just for fun.

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I slept with Isabella, I told her it's for fun.

And there's no additional heart dialog options during the question and believe conversation, and after a Bitter pile, there's no glowing kiss or sex. Fen just stormed off.

So just to stay on the safe side, don't sleep with Isabella if you want to romance Fen.

I have to replay entire Act 2 to fix this problem.

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Second to what fluorine7 just said. I've flirted and maxed out the rivalry points with Fenris, then I slept with Isabela right before I've completed A Bitter Pill quest but none of the options could get him to stay the night. Luckily I've saved right before sleeping with Isabela so didn't take long to complete the quest. Finally achieved the sexy scene I've been waiting for!

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I'm playing a mage and rival-romancing Fenris. Seemed to be going well in Act II. Got dumped of course, but knew that was coming. Never found the gift book in the alienage.

Completed the Alone quest in Act III but no other quests came up for him after that. All my companions talk as if we're together. Fenris even objects to Zevran's suggestion that we get to know each other better.

What went wrong?

Do I need to be at 100% rivalry? I haven't been with anyone else. Can I not even flirt? Not that I did much, but it was fun to do so with Zevran!

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This happened to me, too. I took every flirt option with Fenris and was over 50% rivalry (I was also picking every flirt option with Anders and Isabella, so cheating wasn't the issue).

If you leave for a little bit and come back to the house, he'll be back and ready to play. He just needed to go brood a bit more, no worries.

Modifié par AlienZombies, 10 avril 2011 - 08:47 .


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Quasar7 wrote...

I'm playing a mage and rival-romancing Fenris. Seemed to be going well in Act II. Got dumped of course, but knew that was coming. Never found the gift book in the alienage.

Completed the Alone quest in Act III but no other quests came up for him after that. All my companions talk as if we're together. Fenris even objects to Zevran's suggestion that we get to know each other better.

What went wrong?

Do I need to be at 100% rivalry? I haven't been with anyone else. Can I not even flirt? Not that I did much, but it was fun to do so with Zevran!


I had a hard time looking for the gift book.  You have to go to the alienage at night.  In Act 3 You pick up Blade of Mercy during a quest.  It's best not to flirt with Anders it kills the romance and I had to start another playthrough.  Flirting with Zevran didn't effect the relationship with Fenris.   I think Fenris wanted to speak up to put everyone on notice that we were back together again.

Modifié par Noir_Skye, 10 avril 2011 - 11:55 .


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Fenris is picky.

You CAN sleep with Isabela -- so long as you do it both before "Questioning Beliefs" and "A Bitter Pill"

You -do not have to-, but it is -recomended- you get the 50% "Questioning Beliefs" before you trigger "A bitter pill". If you do it in reverse there is a chance that the last flirt option at the end of "Questioning beliefs" wont trigger. This is how you know the romance can not be completed. He will call you "A friend" and the option to tell him you'd like to be otherwise (aka, heart dialog) should appear. If it does not, go back to a save previous to "a bitter pill" and go push his rivalry/friendship into 50% so that you can complete his "Questioning Beliefs" before you trigger "A Bitter Pill"

Fenris has two seperate sexytime scenes. He has the "Don't go" glowy kiss at the end of "A bitter pill". He ALSO has a "Visiting Hawke" scene. If you get one, you will NOT get the other. If you sleep with Issy, tell her it's just for fun, and then do Fenris's quests (as stated above), He will leave if you ask him to stay. Leave your house and go ANYWHERE else. (I went to hightown). Then re-enter your home AT NIGHT via the City Night Time Map. Fenris will (or should) be at your house. He'll tell you to make him leave. Just heart-dialog him for initating smexytime.


Once you've lurved Fenris hard, he'll panic and leave. He will not return to you again till act 3. If after "Alone" in act three you do not get his last "Questioning Beliefs", or Isabella is there (Rather then Avaline and Varric), then you screwed it up by flirting with Anders or Merrill.



I should write a guilde :?


EDIT: Merrill and Anders smexy times, even if broken off afterwards, effectively ends all other relationships. They are Sexy time Juggernaughts, and will steamroll your heart into squishy peices. If you want to be with Fenris, don't sleep with either. EVER. If you have no plans on Dumping Fen for Anders later in the game, just avoid flirting with him, and in the event you're nice to him, just let him down gently the first time his heart dialogs apear in act1. <3

Modifié par Heidenreich, 10 avril 2011 - 12:17 .


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What Heidenreich said.

I wish it was like in Origins, where your LI would confront you if you slept with someone else, thus giving you a last chance to continue the romance. The way it's done now, it just confuses people.

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Noir_Skye wrote...

I had a hard time looking for the gift book.  You have to go to the alienage at night.  In Act 3 You pick up Blade of Mercy during a quest.  It's best not to flirt with Anders it kills the romance and I had to start another playthrough.  Flirting with Zevran didn't effect the relationship with Fenris.   I think Fenris wanted to speak up to put everyone on notice that we were back together again.


Thank you!  Thought I looked at night, but maybe not, shall do so again.

Really?  I can't flirt with Anders at all???  :blink:  I haven't much, no kiss or anything else, Anders certainly doesn't think that we're together as he confronted me for being with Fenris.  (On another note, there were no adequate replies to Anders' "he's more like a wild dog."  Seriously, I like Anders, but who lets someone make that kind of a comment about someone they love?  Here I wish there was a *slap* option! <_< )

I got Fenris's "sexytime scene" in Act II, did not end it or choose the "so you're ending it" option.  Think I chose "we can work through this."  Problem is, no more quests for Fenris after Act III Alone.  Was patient, played all the way through to the end when I got an f* you, I'm not fighting for you or any mage, and he left. :crying:

Strangely, even though I haven't flirted with Merrill since a single comment in Act I, in Act III, after confronting her demon and then talking to her at her place, she shows up at mine!  I'm like, whoa, just because I support you in your blood magicness doesn't mean that I'm going to stop pining after Fenris for you...

Inzhuna wrote...

What Heidenreich said.

I wish it
was like in Origins, where your LI would confront you if you slept with
someone else, thus giving you a last chance to continue the romance. The
way it's done now, it just confuses people.


Yes, I totally wish that characters you're romancing would confront you like in Origins, even if they didn't give you the option to continue the relationship, at least you would know what was going on!

Modifié par Quasar7, 10 avril 2011 - 02:57 .


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flirting with anders doesn't always ruin the fenris relationship, but it CAN (da2 is a bit buggy right now. There's a fix coming fairly soon for a lot of these issues. Hopefully.), so the best advice I can give you is, if you just want fenris and only fenris, Dont flirt with other people ;p Except for Avaline and Varric.. because its just full of win and they're not LI so they dont effect the relationships of others ;p

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I have been romancing Fenris this time around, and if I have any conversations where I flirt with someone else, I get him back in my party and click on him. On the friendship path, if he continues to say "I enjoy following you." and "I remain at your side.", then you are still in a relationship with him. When Isabela showed up at my house, I told her I wouldn't sleep with her. Likewise, if Anders kisses you and then comes to your house, you can tell him you love Fenris and he will go away. You should get the making up conversation with Fenris in Act III.

It has been bloody hard for me to stay faithful to Fenris.
1. He dumps you right after sex. Not good for fragile hearts and egos.:? He also can't move in with the PC.
2. Every conversation/comfort option after Leandra's death just bites. Could he try any harder to be a ******?? I saved my game, then went and slept with Anders just to feel better. Fenris needs lessons on how to woo. Just my opinion, of course. :innocent:

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Quasar7 wrote...

I got Fenris's "sexytime scene" in Act II, did not end it or choose the "so you're ending it" option.  Think I chose "we can work through this."  Problem is, no more quests for Fenris after Act III Alone.  Was patient, played all the way through to the end when I got an f* you, I'm not fighting for you or any mage, and he left. :crying:


If he left it means you didn't max out the approval meter. That also explains why you didn't get back together. The romance continues when you max out either rivalry or friendship to 100.

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Inzhuna wrote...

Quasar7 wrote...

I got Fenris's "sexytime scene" in Act II, did not end it or choose the "so you're ending it" option.  Think I chose "we can work through this."  Problem is, no more quests for Fenris after Act III Alone.  Was patient, played all the way through to the end when I got an f* you, I'm not fighting for you or any mage, and he left. :crying:


If he left it means you didn't max out the approval meter. That also explains why you didn't get back together. The romance continues when you max out either rivalry or friendship to 100.


That was it!  Thank you!  Loved the reconciliation scene!  Only wish there was more to it!  Think I might write my first fan fiction!  :wub:

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Bekkael wrote...

Likewise, if Anders kisses you and then comes to your house, you can tell him you love Fenris and he will go away.


Really...huh. I've been 100% faithful to Fenris my past couple playthroughs, in fear I'd lose him otherwise. Is this scene on youtube? I'd love to see the dialouge.

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You don't have to tell Izzy it was just for fun. I asked her about love and was still able to sleep with Fenris.

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I don't have a romance going with anyone... i have been flirting with fenris, his rivalry is at 100%, I'm in act 2 and have done everything before I head to the coast and trigger bitter pill.. BUT, questioning beliefs wont trigger for me... I need questioning beliefs before bitter pill don't I? I just gave him the book, which gave me the last 15 I need to max rivalry... help?

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morbusswg wrote...

I don't have a romance going with anyone... i have been flirting with fenris, his rivalry is at 100%, I'm in act 2 and have done everything before I head to the coast and trigger bitter pill.. BUT, questioning beliefs wont trigger for me... I need questioning beliefs before bitter pill don't I? I just gave him the book, which gave me the last 15 I need to max rivalry... help?


No, it's the other way round. Questioning Beliefs won't trigger until you finish A Bitter Pill.