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Akka le Vil wrote...

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Same sex relationships have full scenes, too.  There's also threesomes, foursomes (think there are even achievements for these two), transexual/crossdresser, and bestiality.

Bestiality ? :blink:


I've posted about that a few pages ago. Check the Pearl, there are some pretty sick options. :sick:

That makes me wonder why it 's such a fuss to ask for a patch to get rid of the underwear or make it so it doesn't show on screen (camera angles, sheets or whatnots) especially for Morrigan since she is not wearing any bra except during love scenes...

I'm not talking full frontal or virtual sex games, but you have to wonder what is wrong with showing a nipple in an M rated game when you have cross dressing male prostitues and bestiality.

Modifié par Kalcalan, 18 novembre 2009 - 05:58 .


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LadyRae9 wrote...

I don't know whether to laugh or cry...
People are complaining because there is not enough nudity or sex in a computer game.
Seems silly to me.

Lots of porn sites on the internet if you're that desperate.


Hell why even play Dragon Age. There are so many better things in real life if you are desperate for entertainment.

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Kalcalan wrote...

I'm not talking full frontal or virtual sex games, but you have to wonder what is wrong with showing a nipple in an M rated game when you have cross dressing male prostitues and bestiality.


It does make you wonder, doesn't it? The question on my mind when I think about Morrigan putting the bra on is "what were they thinking?" and I'm afraid the answer is, "not much" - it must have been a rushed / panicked response to an irrational fear that there would be some kind of unspecified problems in the future. I mean, if they were thinking it through rationally they probably would have thought that the media backlash from being able to pay to engage in bestiality or homosexual sex at a brothel would far outweigh the backlash from showing the sort of nudity commonly seen (in America) on cable TV.

My guess is someone at EA, probably some kind of producer, saw something nasty in the woodshed and sent off a quick "fix this now" email.

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On a different note I'm really looking forward to Dante's Inferno, they look like they're really going to push the envelope with that game (on top of it looking like an amazing game).

Funnily enough, it's an EA game (Visceral Games).

Modifié par Crawling_Chaos, 18 novembre 2009 - 09:25 .


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I don't think such a patch should be labeled Adult. The label shoud be "Immature porn patch"

As in 'you're young only once but you can be immature forever.


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Crawling_Chaos wrote...

On a different note I'm really looking forward to Dante's Inferno, they look like they're really going to push the envelope with that game (on top of it looking like an amazing game).

Funnily enough, it's an EA game (Visceral Games).


Well, ignoring that they gutted one of the greatest classical literary works, and replaced the whole thing with the plot of Ghosts n' Goblins on the NES so they could make a God of War clone with a fancy name to drop for attention.

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Crawling_Chaos wrote...

On a different note I'm really looking forward to Dante's Inferno, they look like they're really going to push the envelope with that game (on top of it looking like an amazing game).

Funnily enough, it's an EA game (Visceral Games).


Well, ignoring that they gutted one of the greatest classical literary works, and replaced the whole thing with the plot of Ghosts n' Goblins on the NES so they could make a God of War clone with a fancy name to drop for attention.


Or maybe it's one of the best visual tributes and realizations of Dante's vision of Hell ever created?

Obviuosly the poem's story isn't quite fitting for any sort of entertainment medium.

And what's wrong with copying an extremely fun and successful game, exactly?  Last time I checked, GoW has made 3 iterations using the same forumula and I don't see anybody complaining (because the formula is very good, and fun).

At the very least the game will be quite fun.

Modifié par Crawling_Chaos, 18 novembre 2009 - 09:53 .


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 I think this was a weak fail on Bioware's part.  The "fade to black" would have been safe, but done right it would have been more acceptable.

I would have prefered fade to black as well, personally. Not really sure what the current animated scenes achieve - the standard of animation is somewhat lower than for the rest of the game (or more likely, small flaws get shown up by having two bodies in close proximity).

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TheMadCat wrote...

:lol:
My aren't you a clever and witty little boy .



I think that just about sums it up. The level of his discussion is on the level of a 14 year old.

Don't feed the troll.

As for the sex scenes. Yes. The "Medieval strings And Bra™" were ridiculous. Of course, I'm (north) European, so it might be that... =]

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The simple truth is that this happened because of two reasons: The media and all of the hyper-sensitive parents that, foolishly, might allow their children to play a game where half of the time you are covered in gore, would have a complete meltdown at the first sign of a bare nipple.

WE know the game is not intended for children. We KNOW that this is a mature game. Sadly, there are far too many parents, religious zealots and busy-bodys for something like this to not have repercussions. Unfortunately, due to societal pressure, companies like EA make decisions that they feel will have the least back-lash.

Simplest solution, barring someone making a mod, is to simply hit the ESC key when the scene starts. Personally, if this was the worst problem with the game I wouldn't care less.

Modifié par FrontTowardEnemy, 18 novembre 2009 - 10:21 .


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In general I don't get why nudity seems to be such a big no-no for games. It's ludicrous when you think about it. If it's some naive well intentioned belief that it makes a game less safe for kids, let's be honest and say the level of gore and violence in gaming is off the charts in general (which I ahve no problem with myself). What makes it "OK" is that not only does it seem to be part of our human culture that violence is less offensive than sex, but also that it is not overly realistic in that it is computer generated characters we are looking at, not real people or images or flesh and blood actors. But if that it is true, why isn't it also true for nudity? It isn't real, so what's the big deal?

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Spawn305 wrote...

you want to build romantic development... GO GET A ****ING GIRL FRIEND!  you jackass. you are such a waste of life its not even funny. your looking to video games to fill your romantic pleasures. REALLY!  Go make a game based on romantic development and we'll see how many copies you sell. I bet it would be 0 because more people know how to pick up a chick and have a relation ship with them.

you on the other hand only know how to get romantic with your right and left hand. Go otu side try to get a girl friend and i bet you will stop looking to video games to fill your void.

I bet your the creeper on vent, that when a girl pops on you ask for pics of her nude body and are just a complete scuz ball.

I bet you want multi player so you could interact with a guy pretending to be a girl.So you and your girl friend in game can get it on. hell maybe you'll have internet dragon age babies with BOOBIES!@!!@Image IPB


I'm suprised by the lack of adult intelligence in some of the posters on this board.

Do you read books? I assume some of them have some sort of romances in them? Okay, you do not read books, fine. How about movies then? They don't all go crash-boom-bang,right? Not all the time, anyway.

Nudity belongs where nudity is normal. Sex and sauna happen to be to things where wearing pants makes people rofl.

Also: "I bet your the creeper on vent, that when a girl pops on you ask for pics of her nude body and are just a complete scuz ball." <- Yup. Thats screams "I'm an adult" right there. :bandit:

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Turparulla wrote...

Spawn305 wrote...

I'm suprised by the lack of adult intelligence in some of the posters on this board.
Do you read books? I assume some of them have some sort of romances in them? Okay, you do not read books, fine. How about movies then? They don't all go crash-boom-bang,right? Not all the time, anyway.
Nudity belongs where nudity is normal. Sex and sauna happen to be to things where wearing pants makes people rofl.
Also: "I bet your the creeper on vent, that when a girl pops on you ask for pics of her nude body and are just a copletescz ball." <- Yup. Thats screams "I'm an adult" right there. :bandit:


No, that screams "I'm a Michael Bay fan."

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FrontTowardEnemy wrote...

The simple truth is that this happened because of two reasons: The media and all of the hyper-sensitive parents that, foolishly, might allow their children to play a game where half of the time you are covered in gore, would have a complete meltdown at the first sign of a bare nipple.

WE know the game is not intended for children. We KNOW that this is a mature game. Sadly, there are far too many parents, religious zealots and busy-bodys for something like this to not have repercussions. Unfortunately, due to societal pressure, companies like EA make decisions that they feel will have the least back-lash.

Simplest solution, barring someone making a mod, is to simply hit the ESC key when the scene starts. Personally, if this was the worst problem with the game I wouldn't care less.


www.gametrailers.com/video/lust-gameplay-dantes-inferno/57873

That is an EA game.

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I don't get it...it's a video game, why does a video game need nudity in it? What purpose could nudity possibly serve in a game other than to just trash it up. Lets have some integrity, some respect.

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I don't get it...it's a video game, why does a video game need nudity in it? What purpose could nudity possibly serve in a game other than to just trash it up. Lets have some integrity, some respect.


I like that puritanical attitude.  Keep it up.

On that note, why do games need so much violence? I don't see any purpose it could serve in a game other than to trash it up.  Let's have some integrity people.

Modifié par Crawling_Chaos, 18 novembre 2009 - 11:01 .


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Crawling_Chaos wrote...

I like that puritanical attitude.  Keep it up.

Is it wrong to want to have some integrity in your life? If you think so, then I feel for you.
You can fling you insults but I don't see your answer as to what purpose throwing nudity in a game serves.
Anyway, I don't want to get ignorant or into an insult match, just wanted to give some food for thought.

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orionlocke wrote...

Crawling_Chaos wrote...

I like that puritanical attitude.  Keep it up.

I don't want to get ignorant


I think you already did ;p The reasoning is throughout the thread...it's pretty good reasoning too.

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orionlocke wrote...

I don't get it...it's a video game, why does a video game need nudity in it? What purpose could nudity possibly serve in a game other than to just trash it up. Lets have some integrity, some respect.


I get what you say, but it is not the point. In a game in which your character can engage in some pretty twisted sexual activities in a bordello you have to wonder why it is seen as compulsory for a love scene to feature such cumbersome attire. It's not about getting aroused by pixellated hotties, it's about immersion.

I don't believe that the love scenes with Morrigan would be less tasteful or meaningful storywise if she didn't wear a bra (quite the contrary actually). It would even be better if she was fully dressed in my opinion since her regular outfit looks so much better than her undergarments. 

There is nothing wrong with going for a modest approach but the developers went half way with the depiction of the love scene (and I understand that they don't want to get in trouble or alienate some people).

There is nothing wrong about nudity, it's natural and if you think that the act of love between the main character and Morrigan would become pornographic because she would be topless then my points are wasted on you and we'll just have to agree to disagree.

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orionlocke wrote...

Crawling_Chaos wrote...

I like that puritanical attitude.  Keep it up.

Is it wrong to want to have some integrity in your life? If you think so, then I feel for you.
You can fling you insults but I don't see your answer as to what purpose throwing nudity in a game serves.
Anyway, I don't want to get ignorant or into an insult match, just wanted to give some food for thought.


Right, so you're perfectly OK with a super violent game, but once you get a bare nipple in there... WHOA too far.

Modifié par Crawling_Chaos, 18 novembre 2009 - 11:29 .


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On a side note, who else saw the "Subject Zero" character reveal? (Mass Effect 2) At one point she "jumps" Shep, and considering the monologue, it seemed pretty sexually fuelled ;p From the very little I saw of it, it really worked...and hey, they were both clothed (no nipples on show). Key is context. This is the real argument. In fairness though, the odd "less-revealing-than-day-garb" undies didn't bother me as much as I thought they would :D

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Really you should either get trid of the underwears in custscenesor completely remove them , it looks ridiculous, and stop the hypocrisis, being an ex teacher i know nothing in dragon age could schock any children able to access the computer . You want me to tell you what i seen written in the little notes your adorable chidlrens pass to each others during class? no you dont, you would be schocked, i could not without being banned from the forums.

its supposed to be rated 18+ but i hardly find adult content in DA , its a truly excellent game , but very soft.Throwing a bucket of blood on the screen dont make it more adult.Its not comparable to the content of any dark fantasy book on the market for example, a soft iron throne at best.

Add a big FORBIDDEN TO MINORS warning at the beggining if than can ease your mind but dont emasculate the game for us.

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orionlocke wrote...

Crawling_Chaos wrote...

I like that puritanical attitude.  Keep it up.

Is it wrong to want to have some integrity in your life? If you think so, then I feel for you.
You can fling you insults but I don't see your answer as to what purpose throwing nudity in a game serves.
Anyway, I don't want to get ignorant or into an insult match, just wanted to give some food for thought.


What on earth does INTEGRITY have to do with any of this? Either you're confused about the meaning of the word, or you're using some REALLY convoluted logic to arrive at the conclusion that anyone who appreciates properly done sex and nudity in a game is somehow dishonest.

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On the off chance this helps future decision making at Bioware, I support more nudity.

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FrontTowardEnemy wrote...

The simple truth is that this happened because of two reasons: The media and all of the hyper-sensitive parents that, foolishly, might allow their children to play a game where half of the time you are covered in gore, would have a complete meltdown at the first sign of a bare nipple.

WE know the game is not intended for children. We KNOW that this is a mature game. Sadly, there are far too many parents, religious zealots and busy-bodys for something like this to not have repercussions. Unfortunately, due to societal pressure, companies like EA make decisions that they feel will have the least back-lash.

Simplest solution, barring someone making a mod, is to simply hit the ESC key when the scene starts. Personally, if this was the worst problem with the game I wouldn't care less.


Well, the thing is I'm not seeing any backlash from other aspects in the game such as beastility, rape, murder of children, sex with demons, nudity, open homosexuality, you know things which are usually up on the list of buttom pushers for the prudish and oversensitive groups. Yet making that scene the way we all know the developers intended it to be that would have been the straw that brokes the camels back? At least with Mass Effect the scene was the only thing in the game that went above the typical standard and even then it was over-zealousness and ignorance that made it out to be something that in actuality it was not. Dragon Age, Dragon Age is full of things which I thought would make the people who scolded the Mass Effect scene faint from shock, yet there has been nothing of signifiance to come out of it and in reality it's been praised left and right, up and down.

There is no doubt this was done out of fear of pushing the wrong buttons again, and I'd bet every penny I have that the order came from EA's side of the box rather then Bioware's. I just think they overestimated greaty and really, considering what else they left in the game, shouldn't have worried about it at all.

Is it wrong to want to have some integrity in your life? If you think so, then I feel for you.
You can fling you insults but I don't see your answer as to what purpose throwing nudity in a game serves.
Anyway, I don't want to get ignorant or into an insult match, just wanted to give some food for thought.


Integrity itself is a very personal and subjective word, you may draw a line here and I'll draw it 20 feet past you. It doesn't mean I'm lacking intregity, it just means I draw the line at a different level then you. With that said what is the line of integirty for a game? Having nude demons is fine but a nude lady not so much? Killing and possessing children and lobbing off heads is all fine and dandy but a short scene portraying the epitome of a relationship between the main character and their lover is going to far?

Mind you no one is asking for a 10 minute scene with vivid details and play-by-play action here, most are simply saying the scene could have been much better weather it actually involved nudity or not. As it is now it's rather subpar, odd, and clunky compared to everything else in the game. Most believe removing the underwear would improve the scene, personally I think the scene itself is pretty bad to begin with. Personal opinions and prefrences by people just like you who simply want the scene to better represent the moment so to speak. Having so certainly doesn't bring a game such as Dragon Age down on the intregrity ladder considering everything there is in the game, and if you feel it does then I must say it's quite hypocritical.