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[Special_Agent_Goodwrench]

ReconTeam wrote...

DrunkDeadman wrote...
Then DON'T flirt with men. And let's say they flirt with you first. Big deal, say no and move on with your life. What's so hard about that?

What's so hard about an option to say no from the start?

What's so hard about an option to say no when hit on? In real life you don't go up to a dude and say: "Before this converstaion starts, know, I am not into men."

[Onyx Jaguar]

Yeah if you try to put it in hte fear range, how would that work out

Oh no, there's a gay guy

*freezes up*
*Starts to hyperventelate*

Quick, go away, go away!

*starts to shake*

"I'm sorry man, this guy has a deep fear of gay people"
"How did he... tell?"
"When I say deep fear, I mean deep, like way deep man"

[Horus Blackheart]

ReconTeam wrote...

DrunkDeadman wrote...
Then DON'T flirt with men. And let's say they flirt with you first. Big deal, say no and move on with your life. What's so hard about that?

What's so hard about an option to say no from the start?

What you mean walk around with a sign stating i'm hetrosexual would all gay or bi men please refrain from flurting or engaging with me? Can you honistly see that as a practcal way to live your life?

[Carfax]

Seena wrote...

Firstly - I have to say that quoting wiki - is, well, it is what it is.

Just because it's Wiki doesn't mean the data is "automatically" incorrect.  Are you claiming the entire page is filled with nothing but lies?

I stated that sexuality is circumstantial.  It  runs on a continuum. This has been born out by massive research, the quoting of which is not appropriate on this forum.

LOL this is such complete and utter garbage!  If sexuality is as you say, a continuum, then why is there so much disgust towards homosexuality in the World? 

Wouldn't that mean that most people aren't completely straight or gay, but have some degree of bisexuality?  But yet there's been so much aversion towards homosexuality throughout the ages, including the very Ancient Civilizations you probably think were very tolerant of it.....ie Rome.

Did you know the death penalty was once prescribed in Ancient Rome to men who had sex with other freeborn men/boys.  Of course you didn't.

The law was called Lex Scantinia.  Look it up if you don't believe me.

We were not arguing "sexual behavior" vs "sexual orientation". 

The reason why I brought this up, is because you obviously don't know the difference between the two, and it pertains to our discussion.

Modifié par Carfax, 06 avril 2011 - 02:56 .

[Crimmsonwind]

Saphara wrote...

ReconTeam wrote...

Satyricon331 wrote...
lol.  And butterflies are flies that reside on butter.

Do you have something to contribute? Or do you just fail to understand the definition of phobia?

That is it's litteral deffinition yes but as fear breeds hate, homophobic would still be correct.

I wasnt aware a word only had one static meaning.

That's the beauty of a dictionary...

[Maugrim]

Saphara wrote...

ReconTeam wrote...

Satyricon331 wrote...
lol.  And butterflies are flies that reside on butter.

Do you have something to contribute? Or do you just fail to understand the definition of phobia?

That is it's litteral deffinition yes but as fear breeds hate, homophobic would still be correct.

I wasnt aware a word only had one static meaning.

Off course they do that's why gay still means happy.

[Helena Tylena]

Ryzaki wrote...

Saphara wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

*blinks*

So...that broken heart icon doesn't stop a romance from occuring? So Anders and Fenris raped M!Hawke in your games?

apparantly some people rather have a blindfold and go "LALALA GAYS DONT EXIST IN MY WORLD LALALA"

when in real life, most people that have matured, when confronted with said disagreeable issue, would just tough up and deal with it.

Hell I'm not even mature and I know when to say "no thanks" tis not a hard concept. 

It's not like Anders/Fenris romances are traps like that damn Asari consort. 

I was pleasantly surprised by that...

[Seena]

Saibh wrote...

ReconTeam wrote...

DrunkDeadman wrote...
Then DON'T flirt with men. And let's say they flirt with you first. Big deal, say no and move on with your life. What's so hard about that?

What's so hard about an option to say no from the start?

Because that isn't what the toggle would be. It's removing the presence of alternate sexualities from the game.

For it to be saying 'no' from the start, it would have to be something like Hawke saying a scripted 'no' instead of choosing it...and...really...how is that any different than you selecting it yourself?

Pssst... he doesn't get it.  Just as those who don't get that "phobic" has nuances and meaning that go beyond simple "fear".   And anyway - fear and hate often go hand in hand, don't they?

[Bacon Masta]

Honestly, i think this is one of the most frustrating topics i encounter on this forum. The writing department created an amazing world rich in lore and character development, but by continually  adding the romance option it feels like it made the community turn away from their well constructed world and instead continually blather on romancing x character or why too many/ not enough characters are gay. Even worse it seems like they are now pandering to those complaints instead of focusing in the immersiveness that made those games great.

My hope for the next bioware game is that the emphasis comes back to interactions between the player and the overall universe and have relationships be mostly platonic with little mention of your sidekick's preferences under the sheets.

[Ryzaki]

ReconTeam wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...
...You have an option to say no from the start. As soon as Anders hits on you you can shut him down. 

Now I know your doing this to frusterate me but I meant start of the game.

...Why? 

You have an option right after Anders hits on you to shut him down and that's the end of it. He'll never hit on you again. 

[Saphara]

Ryzaki wrote...

Saphara wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

*blinks*

So...that broken heart icon doesn't stop a romance from occuring? So Anders and Fenris raped M!Hawke in your games?

apparantly some people rather have a blindfold and go "LALALA GAYS DONT EXIST IN MY WORLD LALALA"

when in real life, most people that have matured, when confronted with said disagreeable issue, would just tough up and deal with it.

Hell I'm not even mature and I know when to say "no thanks" tis not a hard concept. 

It's not like Anders/Fenris romances are traps like that damn Asari consort. 

For some people, and i include myself in this, it's easier to avoid issues and pretend they dont exist instead of confronting and saying no.

[Saibh]

ReconTeam wrote...

Well why should your mom!!! be catered to? Oh snap.

My point is Bioware is respecting the opinion of a segment of homosexuals, so why shouldn't they respect my opinion and give me an option to say no from the start?

Because they shouldn't cater to bigoted people. That's why.

They wouldn't cater to a racist who doesn't want to see non-whites in their game.

They wouldn't cater to a sexist who doesn't want to see women in their game.

Because your aversion to homosexuality is wrong. And adding said toggle would condone it.

[AngelicMachinery]

I dislike sliders, can I not have sliders in my game... the same goes for toggles.... and dwarfs.

[Crimmsonwind]

Bacon Masta wrote...

Honestly, i think this is one of the most frustrating topics i encounter on this forum. The writing department created an amazing world rich in lore and character development, but by continually  adding the romance option it feels like it made the community turn away from their well constructed world and instead continually blather on romancing x character or why too many/ not enough characters are gay. Even worse it seems like they are now pandering to those complaints instead of focusing in the immersiveness that made those games great.

My hope for the next bioware game is that the emphasis comes back to interactions between the player and the overall universe and have relationships be mostly platonic with little mention of your sidekick's preferences under the sheets.

Unfortunately, everyone thinks it's Burger King and they can have it their way.

[Inquisitor Recon]

Satyricon331 wrote...
I parodied mindless prejudice a number of pages ago.  And I pointed out that your mindless etymology is linguistically spurious.  

Nobody reads pages ago. And I'd rather use the actual defintion of phobia than the bastardized word clueless people like to shout. It's little different from calling everybody a racist to try to win an argument.

[Ashira Shepard]

Crimms, why is everything serious again? I'm scared D8

[Saphara]

makenzieshepard wrote...

Saphara wrote...

ReconTeam wrote...

Satyricon331 wrote...
lol.  And butterflies are flies that reside on butter.

Do you have something to contribute? Or do you just fail to understand the definition of phobia?

That is it's litteral deffinition yes but as fear breeds hate, homophobic would still be correct.

I wasnt aware a word only had one static meaning.

Off course they do that's why gay still means happy.

That is NOT what i meant.  I mean word always change/evolve/aquire a different meaning in addition. It's why gay still means happy AND it now means beaing a homosexual.

[Ryzaki]

Helena Tylena wrote...
I was pleasantly surprised by that...

I wasn't. I had to reload so fast my hand got a cramp. 

[mesmerizedish]

Saphara wrote...

That is NOT what i meant.  I mean word always change/evolve/aquire a different meaning in addition. It's why gay still means happy AND it now means beaing a homosexual.

She was being glib

[TheGriffonsShallRiseAgain]

AshiraShepard wrote...

Crimms, why is everything serious again? I'm scared D8

Ive had to read the posts im more terrified. Whats an Alma?

[Onyx Jaguar]

I didn't find out about that consort thing until I got on this forum

Color me surprised holy balls

[Helena Tylena]

Ryzaki wrote...

Helena Tylena wrote...
I was pleasantly surprised by that...

I wasn't. I had to reload so fast my hand got a cramp. 

Maybe they should've included a 'no unanounced blue alien sex' toggle at the start of the game?

[Saphara]

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

Saphara wrote...

That is NOT what i meant.  I mean word always change/evolve/aquire a different meaning in addition. It's why gay still means happy AND it now means beaing a homosexual.

She was being glib

ah. my bad. I tend to take text seriously if not followed by an emote

[Onyx Jaguar]

TheGriffonsShallRiseAgain wrote...

AshiraShepard wrote...

Crimms, why is everything serious again? I'm scared D8

Ive had to read the posts im more terrified. Whats an Alma?

Alma is a young lass with psychic powers who was put in a chamber to preserve her and was continually, well impregnated then forced to give birth to an army of psychic soldiers

including YOU

well not you as in you, but you as in YOU

[Ryzaki]

Helena Tylena wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Helena Tylena wrote...
I was pleasantly surprised by that...

I wasn't. I had to reload so fast my hand got a cramp. 

Maybe they should've included a 'no unanounced blue alien sex' toggle at the start of the game?

Indeed! That would've solved my clingy Liara problem too!