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#26
Sonris89

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I'm starting to think Sandal is the fist dwarf mage in who knows how long. If ever...

Either that or he is something else... Maybe something worse...

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Is it dumb to think that Sandal could be a tranquil? Or some kind of variation of one? One of the conversations with Bodahn (when Sandal gives you his 'special' rune) made me wonder. Hawke suggested Sandal being the first Dwarven Mage. Bodahn replied something along the lines of 'only Tranquil Mages practice enchantment'. I may have imagined it, but I think there was a lot of emphasis there...

Also, doesn't Sandal have the symptoms of a Tranquil? Monotone speech dead eyes.

Meh. I need sleep.

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KenKenpachi wrote...
3, His "dad" is a lets face it a bad used carsalesmen, who would take the quarters off of a deadmans eyes as he "doesn't need them now". In fact I suspect if not for the enchantment and seemingly simplemindedness he'ld have left him in the deeproads.


I think you're really selling Bodhan short. He has always come across as genuinely caring for Sandal to me. I find it sweet, even!

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kazic284 wrote...

I got that sentence with him too. That and the one about the lady with the scary laugh. I also imported a dark ritual save. Scared the pants off me btw. Maybe Sandal's pretending to be simple. Maybe he's Flemmeth 0_0. I dunno.


Maybe he saw Morrigan.

We know that Merrill mentions that she thought she saw that one elf from DA:O's Dalish Origin (forgot the name... argh, started with a T) who disappeared when he found the Eluvian. They never found the body. She goes on to talk about how she thought she saw him but was 'probably' dreaming or something.

Maybe people that have gone through the Eluvian (the 'T' elf, Morrigan) can slip in and out of the world and their other realm, whatever that is.

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Anyone else notice the pleading look on Sandal's face when Bodahn tells him to thank you for saving his life? Looked to me like he was worried Hawke would tell Bodahn about Sandal killing all those darkspawn on his own. I don't think Bodahn has a clue what Sandal is capable of.

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Now that I think of ... "he" will appear very soon. While playing DA2, I have sensed that mage populations is growing sharply (people in Kirkwall says that). I think that this isn't the case for only Kirkwall. Probably, mage population in all over the Thedas is growing ... which means magic is coming back to the world.

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KenKenpachi

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Makes me wonder to what end this all will be. Just a huge HAHA history repeats its self with mages enslaving everyone, or a huge World War, even parts of the World unknown.

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Sandal in the deep roads, he froze an ogre.
I'd like to hear something about this, because I'm not sure if runes are capable of freezing ogres.

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Ekutah wrote...

Sandal in the deep roads, he froze an ogre.
I'd like to hear something about this, because I'm not sure if runes are capable of freezing ogres.


Sandal says "Not enchantment." about the ogre. So it wasn't a rune.

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Welsh Inferno wrote...

Ekutah wrote...

Sandal in the deep roads, he froze an ogre.
I'd like to hear something about this, because I'm not sure if runes are capable of freezing ogres.


Sandal says "Not enchantment." about the ogre. So it wasn't a rune.


But how did he do it then?

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He was holding that runestone that he gives to Hawke later on (that does knockback). "Boom!" he says when he gives it out. But that would be enchantment, right?

#37
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Can I have some salamanders please?

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monopoly1888

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there is probobly an old god dwelling inside sandal from when he was in the deep roads. DA3 will be hawke and the warden having to stop the old god in sandal, and possible something with the god baby. im already excited for DA3.

all i got to say is, bioware better answer the questions about morrigan and sandal in DA3. otherwise, it will have gone on for too long

#39
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ok. so i spent like 5 minutes talking to Sandal just to listen to the prophecy he talks about. and i have that feeling that Bodahn knows alot more about Sandal than he leads everyone to believe based on his reaction about him saying the prophecy.

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arega333 wrote...

when does he say either of those 2 lines?


Act 3, if you engage Bodahn in convo at your house.

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I thought I was the only one. Slight lack of coverage on this at first, but it blew up pretty big since then. Very nice.

The old lady with the scary laugh points almost blatantly at Flemeth.

Sandal speaks of "That big tower in the lake." Bodahn relates this to the Circle Tower, in the Gallows. I suspect this is actually an allusion to something else entirely- potentially a structure left over from times before.

Bodahn has some form of ulterior motive. His concern for Sandal is genuine, but for different reasons. There is a sympathy here, but he also underplays how important the boy is to his potential business.

Also, Bodahn does not mention details of his expedition in which Sandal was found, frequently feigning disinterest in his own history to downplay its possible revelations. For instance, he never mentions how many where in his party, nor does he feel the need to allude to any sort of survival statistics. I suppose this can also be countered by him saying it was one of his "many" expeditions- when you've done something so many times, you're like to forget details, or find something too redundant to recount to others.

It is likely that with his travels, with his powers, with his experience, Sandal is something we are not familiar with in every sense of the word. Flemeth's long lost, immortal and only son? A lyrium-touched dwarf vessel that a previous archdemon was unfortunate enough to possess upon its defeat?

There are potential circumstances to be exploited. We must also remember that Sandal had survived down there by himself. We may not know how long, but it's either possible he sustained himself for a long time on anything at hand (Darkspawn, Spiders, those odd little lurking reptiles, or the flesh of other humanoids), or is sustained simply because he is.

Make no mistake: Sandal is above mere Dwarf. He is an entity we know nothing about, and less to go on.

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I quite agree that Sandal is something special...personally I like the dwarf-mage theory...but why all this conspiracy around Bodahn? He just seems like a loving adoptive father to me. I bet he'd be shocked to learn what Sandal is capable of. If he knew that he could waste darkspawn by the dozens, he wouldn't have worried about him in the roads!

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SuperMedbh wrote...

he saw something by the woodshed,


...
She said There's something in the woodshed
and I can hear it breathing
it's such an eerie feeling, darling
[..]
Something in his heart told him to come clean
He was not who he claimed to be
Something in his genes told him to pretend
...

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How do you trigger that speech from Sanda BTW? I got it to happen once but I've never managed to make it happen again on any other playthrough.

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Bodahn: I'm more concerned about him getting lost! I'm sure he'll be fine. He accidentally burned down a house twice while enchanting.

Or something like that. It isn't he's worried about Sandal's safety but more on losing Sandal into the Deep Roads because he lost his way.

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Teh Chozen Wun wrote...

It was: "One day the magic will come back. all of it. Everyone will be just like they were. The shadows will part and the skies will open wide. When he rises, everyone will see"


It sounds to me like at one point in time, everybody could do magic. And that eventually they all will be able to again. It has been said by passerby that there are twice as many mages being born every year than there used to be.

Also the whole "when he rises" thing sounds like it might be Dumat. Legacy gave a pretty strong implication that he is still alive.

Its also possible that Sandal was predicting Hawke's ascension into legend and the Mage-Templar War. Hawke rises to power and becomes a figure of legend, and his example inspires the Mages to rise up and fight for their freedom, no matter which side you took.

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Epic necro. Someone's been reading Quentin's research.

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hero 2

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I like this one...
www.youtube.com/watch

Now a quiz question: What Dragon Age old lady likes a laugh?

www.youtube.com/watch

Modifié par hero 2, 27 septembre 2011 - 12:02 .