Skip it completly. Unless you liked demo - if yes then buy.
Should I skip Dragon Age 2? Yes or no. Be honest. Seriously, Be honest?
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#77
Posté 13 mars 2011 - 06:24
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Ok, y'all are just making this seem way worse than it really is. I enjoy Dragon Age 2 immensely.
Combat is amazing. The fluidity of the combat system is evident throughout the game, especially on hard. Playing on hard is practically a prerequisite to experiencing the combat system to the fullest. The reused environments are my only qualm, though I've only had to go through a cave twice so it really wasn't that big of a deal. Certainly not as much of a deal as people are making it. Every quest and every character have their own stories and doing quests for them never feels like much of a hassle.
Some people felt like they were everyone's errand boy, but that was sort of the point, wasn't it? I guess I'm just being a rabid fanboy and defending BioWare illogically. Still, I have to say that I'm enjoying this game and I'll be replaying the game several times. Oh, and I guess I should also replay Dragon Age: Origins while I'm at it.
The game is an honest 8.5 in my opinion, totally worth the price of a $60 pre-order.
Combat is amazing. The fluidity of the combat system is evident throughout the game, especially on hard. Playing on hard is practically a prerequisite to experiencing the combat system to the fullest. The reused environments are my only qualm, though I've only had to go through a cave twice so it really wasn't that big of a deal. Certainly not as much of a deal as people are making it. Every quest and every character have their own stories and doing quests for them never feels like much of a hassle.
Some people felt like they were everyone's errand boy, but that was sort of the point, wasn't it? I guess I'm just being a rabid fanboy and defending BioWare illogically. Still, I have to say that I'm enjoying this game and I'll be replaying the game several times. Oh, and I guess I should also replay Dragon Age: Origins while I'm at it.
The game is an honest 8.5 in my opinion, totally worth the price of a $60 pre-order.
#78
Posté 13 mars 2011 - 06:28
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No, you shouldnt.
It isnt DA:O, but it is a good game in its own right.
It isnt DA:O, but it is a good game in its own right.
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#79
Posté 13 mars 2011 - 06:29
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I say wait for it to go on sale. It is still a decent game in it's own rights (though comparing it DA:O it comes off as rushed, incoherent and unfulfilling.
If Dragon Age: Origins grabbed you by the knackers and didn't let go. If it was the kind of game where you started playing in the afternoon and by the time you looked away from your screen it was two in the morning, then you won't find this one remotely as good. So yea, wait for a sale as it's still a solid game with some good parts to it, but it is not a true sequel to DA:O.
Still, it is a solid game in it's own right. To me it isn't worth $60 but around xmas when it's onsale for $39 on steam or what ever, totally pick it up
If Dragon Age: Origins grabbed you by the knackers and didn't let go. If it was the kind of game where you started playing in the afternoon and by the time you looked away from your screen it was two in the morning, then you won't find this one remotely as good. So yea, wait for a sale as it's still a solid game with some good parts to it, but it is not a true sequel to DA:O.
Still, it is a solid game in it's own right. To me it isn't worth $60 but around xmas when it's onsale for $39 on steam or what ever, totally pick it up
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#80
Posté 13 mars 2011 - 06:30
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Slamndude wrote...
Ok, y'all are just making this seem way worse than it really is. I enjoy Dragon Age 2 immensely.
That's why I told him to use his own judgement and noone else's. Its always in the eye of the beholder.
#81
Posté 13 mars 2011 - 06:38
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Rent it if your interested in it or wait for the Ultimate edition. Otherwise just skip it. It really isn't worth the asking price. None of the traditional Bioware love was put into this game and it is extremely repetitive. Your choices also don't really have an impact on the world and the story is more or less linear. Honestly I think this is the first Bioware game to not receive a 90%+ metacritic score for any platform.
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#82
Posté 13 mars 2011 - 06:39
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Definatly dissagree with this, I HATED the demo but love the full game. The begining/demo part is the worst part in the whole game.Seitur wrote...
Skip it completly. Unless you liked demo - if yes then buy.
#83
Posté 13 mars 2011 - 06:40
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Finding true honesty and intellegent responses for Dragon Age 2 here on the BioWare forums is pretty rare. This forum seems to be plagued by the typical "DA2 sucks" or "DA2 is horrible" responses, but no one seems to want to state why they don't like Dragon Age 2.
For me personally, the last game I enjoyed as much as I do Dragon Age 2 was Assassin's Creed 2. I never played the first installment, so it was different for me, and I loved it for that. There are both positives and negatives about Dragon Age 2. When I first played the demo, I didn't like how the rogue is now an acrobatic who goes flying through the air, but the more I thought about it the more it made sense to me. Rogues are supposed to be agile and lightning quick, so it all started to fit in the more I thought about it that way.
Some of the key things I enjoy about DA2:
- Character Advancement: It now actually makes sense, and works a hell of a lot better than it did in the original. No longer do you have to pick up abilities and spells you will never use just to get that one ability or spell you really want that would be useful. Instead of linear lines for each specialization, it now uses a web that really allow you to customize your character more than ever before. The reworked abilities are now leaps and bounds better than they were in the original. Rogues actually have high damaging attacks now, as well as actually feel like a rogue as you vanish in thin air and reappear behind your enemy with a butal backstab. They also play a fairly significant support role with abilities that make your companions less likely to be hit and abilities that allow you to vanish and reappear next to them to render aid to them. I could go on for hours about each rogue ability in the original compared to each ability in Dragon Age 2, but this should be enough to give you an idea of how big of an overhaul and how much better this class is now. It's not just rogues either, warriors and mages also went through a major overhaul, and it's just as satisfying with all three classes.
- Story: The story this time around is much deeper and personal than it was in the original. I won't go into detail, but I will say I haven't had a single moment in Dragon Age 2 where I haven't been on the edge of my seat itching to see what's going to happen next. I'm not one to do multiple playthroughs in story driven games, but I definitely see myself doing at least one more playthrough in Dragon Age 2, if not many more.
- Companions: You can no longer change your companions armor, except for weapons, shields, amulets, belts, and rings. Some people don't like this, but I favor this change. This way each character has their own distinct look rather than all your warrior characters looking the same, while all your mages and rogues look the same. Each of your companion truly does have a distinct appearance, and is stays this way all the way to the end of the campaign. Hawke also seems to be more interested in his/her companions personal lives like Shepard in Mass Effect 2 than the protagonast you played as in the original Dragon Age. And I will just say this, some of the companion quests are simply mind-bending.
- Tactics: The tactics system is vastly improved this time around. Now we actually have a tank tactic for tanks. This is one change I welcomed with open arms. Your companions also seem to be smarter at following the tactics you have set for them. I find myself rarely having to directly control my companions because they're not properly following their tactics. Although, in enormously large packs, your companions do still seem to get sidetracked, but that's expected. It's probably more or less how I have my tactics setup though, as I'm definitely no expert at setting these up properly.
I'm sure there's more I could talk about, but I don't want this post to get out-of-controllably-long. This should be enough to give you an idea of what they've overhauled in Dragon Age 2, and I recommend downloading the demo and giving it a shot to see if it appeals to you. Some advice I have though is make sure you go into it with an open mind. I'll sayh right off the bat if you're looking for Dragon Age: Origins with a continued story then this won't be the game for you, as just about all the mechanics have been overhauled and revamped -- from combat to crafting.
For me personally, the last game I enjoyed as much as I do Dragon Age 2 was Assassin's Creed 2. I never played the first installment, so it was different for me, and I loved it for that. There are both positives and negatives about Dragon Age 2. When I first played the demo, I didn't like how the rogue is now an acrobatic who goes flying through the air, but the more I thought about it the more it made sense to me. Rogues are supposed to be agile and lightning quick, so it all started to fit in the more I thought about it that way.
Some of the key things I enjoy about DA2:
- Character Advancement: It now actually makes sense, and works a hell of a lot better than it did in the original. No longer do you have to pick up abilities and spells you will never use just to get that one ability or spell you really want that would be useful. Instead of linear lines for each specialization, it now uses a web that really allow you to customize your character more than ever before. The reworked abilities are now leaps and bounds better than they were in the original. Rogues actually have high damaging attacks now, as well as actually feel like a rogue as you vanish in thin air and reappear behind your enemy with a butal backstab. They also play a fairly significant support role with abilities that make your companions less likely to be hit and abilities that allow you to vanish and reappear next to them to render aid to them. I could go on for hours about each rogue ability in the original compared to each ability in Dragon Age 2, but this should be enough to give you an idea of how big of an overhaul and how much better this class is now. It's not just rogues either, warriors and mages also went through a major overhaul, and it's just as satisfying with all three classes.
- Story: The story this time around is much deeper and personal than it was in the original. I won't go into detail, but I will say I haven't had a single moment in Dragon Age 2 where I haven't been on the edge of my seat itching to see what's going to happen next. I'm not one to do multiple playthroughs in story driven games, but I definitely see myself doing at least one more playthrough in Dragon Age 2, if not many more.
- Companions: You can no longer change your companions armor, except for weapons, shields, amulets, belts, and rings. Some people don't like this, but I favor this change. This way each character has their own distinct look rather than all your warrior characters looking the same, while all your mages and rogues look the same. Each of your companion truly does have a distinct appearance, and is stays this way all the way to the end of the campaign. Hawke also seems to be more interested in his/her companions personal lives like Shepard in Mass Effect 2 than the protagonast you played as in the original Dragon Age. And I will just say this, some of the companion quests are simply mind-bending.
- Tactics: The tactics system is vastly improved this time around. Now we actually have a tank tactic for tanks. This is one change I welcomed with open arms. Your companions also seem to be smarter at following the tactics you have set for them. I find myself rarely having to directly control my companions because they're not properly following their tactics. Although, in enormously large packs, your companions do still seem to get sidetracked, but that's expected. It's probably more or less how I have my tactics setup though, as I'm definitely no expert at setting these up properly.
I'm sure there's more I could talk about, but I don't want this post to get out-of-controllably-long. This should be enough to give you an idea of what they've overhauled in Dragon Age 2, and I recommend downloading the demo and giving it a shot to see if it appeals to you. Some advice I have though is make sure you go into it with an open mind. I'll sayh right off the bat if you're looking for Dragon Age: Origins with a continued story then this won't be the game for you, as just about all the mechanics have been overhauled and revamped -- from combat to crafting.
#84
Posté 13 mars 2011 - 06:42
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How do you know if its not nearly as good as DAO if you havent played it? Personally, I like both about the same, but for different reasons. If you are wary about it, just wait for the price drop and buy it then
#85
Posté 13 mars 2011 - 06:45
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wait for the price to go down, it's a decent game but it lacks the soul of DAO. i wouldn't mind if i had spent $30 on it, but $60 doesn't feel worth it IMO.
#86
Posté 13 mars 2011 - 06:45
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I wish I would've waited for an Ultimate Edition, but I definitely wouldn't skip this game.
#87
Posté 13 mars 2011 - 06:47
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a****ters wrote...
Rent it if your interested in it or wait for the Ultimate edition. Otherwise just skip it. It really isn't worth the asking price. None of the traditional Bioware love was put into this game and it jis extremely repetitive. Your choices also don't really have an impact on the world and the story is more or less linear. Honestly I think this is the first Bioware game to not receive a 90%+ metacritic score for any platform.
And Dragon Age: Origins wasn't repetitive? Please! Just about every dungeon in Origins was a carbon copy of each other (including the dungeons in the DLC content), just about every side quest you came across was exactly the same, just in a different area with different characters, and the story was extremely generic. And 9 times out of 10, you were fighting Darkspawn, with the exception of here and there when you may be fighting some thugs. The enemies in Dragon Age 2 are much more varied.
You're fighting the Blight, a mob of creatures that is threatening the land. Oh, we haven't seen that one before! Every mission you go into, whether a side mission or a main plot mission was extremely predictable. As soon as I would talk to someone in Origins and they would say "Please, I need you help." I knew right off the bat this person either lost their child or husband and needed help finding them, and almost every time you would end up finding them dead -- it's not like I could predict that or anything!
But yeah, to each their own. Everyone has their own opinions, but I just simply can't fathom people saying Origins' story was more epic and enticing than the story in Dragon Age 2.
#88
Posté 13 mars 2011 - 06:48
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Give it a chance, specially if you already preordered (like me). If you are unsure watch videos about it and decide for yourself, i think it is an ok game, some things are better than DAO (yes unbelievable!) but there many others that are worse. Overall i would say that it is worth the money.
#89
Posté 13 mars 2011 - 06:49
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b00mQQ wrote...
- Story: The story this time around is much deeper and personal than it was in the original. I won't go into detail, but I will say I haven't had a single moment in Dragon Age 2 where I haven't been on the edge of my seat itching to see what's going to happen next. I'm not one to do multiple playthroughs in story driven games, but I definitely see myself doing at least one more playthrough in Dragon Age 2, if not many more.
Did you take any kind of suppliment while playing this game? I don't mean to come after your opinion too much but the story is extremely predictable and you can't change anything in the world, unlike origins which was begging you to set the course of Ferelden. The endings also have almost no variation and are incomplete. This is probably the only Bioware game where I never felt engaged in the story at all. Also, throughout the entire game, I never felt a connection to Hawk and I never understood how just some random refugee from Lothering was such a bad ass (even if he did fight at Ostagar).
#90
Posté 13 mars 2011 - 06:49
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HieOapeen wrote...
Ok so Dragon Age 2 is not nearly as good as Dragon Age Origins.
But guys, seriously. Let me ask you a VERY honest question. Total and 100% honesty.
Should I skip Dragon Age 2 and wait for Dragon Age 3? SHould I pretend that Dragon Age 2 never happened or should I give it a chance?
a) give it a chanceskip this horrible piece of sh*t game
Be honset.
I say wait few months til lthey patch it, its way to buggy in 1.00
#91
Posté 13 mars 2011 - 06:53
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HieOapeen wrote...
Ok so Dragon Age 2 is not nearly as good as Dragon Age Origins.
But guys, seriously. Let me ask you a VERY honest question. Total and 100% honesty.
Should I skip Dragon Age 2 and wait for Dragon Age 3? SHould I pretend that Dragon Age 2 never happened or should I give it a chance?
a) give it a chance
Be honset.
Well, let me put it this way.
How much do you love the Quinari? Because even if your answer is alot, you should just...
Let me put it another way
If You played DA:O and DA:A and never touched DA2, and they released DA3, you'd never need to play DA2 to get into 3.
hahahaa.
#92
Posté 13 mars 2011 - 06:54
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If you must buy it wait till next year when they release an ultimate edition with all the inevitable DLC included.
#93
Posté 13 mars 2011 - 06:54
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b00mQQ wrote...
a****ters wrote...
Rent it if your interested in it or wait for the Ultimate edition. Otherwise just skip it. It really isn't worth the asking price. None of the traditional Bioware love was put into this game and it jis extremely repetitive. Your choices also don't really have an impact on the world and the story is more or less linear. Honestly I think this is the first Bioware game to not receive a 90%+ metacritic score for any platform.
And Dragon Age: Origins wasn't repetitive? Please! Just about every dungeon in Origins was a carbon copy of each other (including the dungeons in the DLC content), just about every side quest you came across was exactly the same, just in a different area with different characters, and the story was extremely generic. And 9 times out of 10, you were fighting Darkspawn, with the exception of here and there when you may be fighting some thugs. The enemies in Dragon Age 2 are much more varied.
You're fighting the Blight, a mob of creatures that is threatening the land. Oh, we haven't seen that one before! Every mission you go into, whether a side mission or a main plot mission was extremely predictable. As soon as I would talk to someone in Origins and they would say "Please, I need you help." I knew right off the bat this person either lost their child or husband and needed help finding them, and almost every time you would end up finding them dead -- it's not like I could predict that or anything!
But yeah, to each their own. Everyone has their own opinions, but I just simply can't fathom people saying Origins' story was more epic and enticing than the story in Dragon Age 2.
Origins had missions/quests that didn't feel like I was playing a wana be MMO offline. I am not going to defend the DLC for DAO after Warden's Keep because it was all pretty bad and rewrit a lot of story elements from the game (Leliana's Song having her in Denerim and not Orlais). Yes, enemies repeated, but the environments were varied enough where there was also a new tactic to use. In DA2 I am walking through the same cut and paste map with enemies spawning in the same spot and the traps in exactly the same location about 10 times. Also, the enemies repeat in DA2 way more. The only varaition in enemies is that elities use an infinite number of health potions if they aren't slain in time. And every character in the game still wants your help, thats the nature of an RPG and how you get quests.
#94
Posté 13 mars 2011 - 06:55
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Anathemic wrote...
I'm waiting for an Ultimate Edition
I'd say skip it for right now
i might do the same, i was planning on getting DA2 later this month after finishing some other games but now that i finished those... it's still really hard to justify the $60 on a barebones when you just know they're going to dlc the hell out of the game like they did origins
and for that matter i regret rebuying DAO for PC barebones, should've waited for the Ultimate Edition of that as well, i would like to eventually play Awakenings but i can't justify $30 for it when the UE is $40
#95
Posté 13 mars 2011 - 07:03
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If you liked the Tabletop gameplay of the Original Dragon Age, then skip DA2.
If you liked Dragon Age Origins on the PC, then Skip DA2.
If you liked the interactive tactics of Origins (i.e. an Ogre picks you up or a Spider pounces you - the only way to get out is to have a teammate run over and knock them/stun them/etc.), then Skip DA2.
If you liked Traveling to different locations, then skip DA2
If you like a storyline with a defined protagonist/antagonist with proper story structure, skip DA2
If you liked being able to talk to your companions while traveling or at camp, skip DA2
If you like a game where you are an adventuring delivery boy in a single city, pick up DA2.
If you like games where every single enemy explodes from a single tap of a weapon, then pick up DA2.
If you like a game which literally re-uses every area at least twice (including the city: Day and Night variant "zones"), then pick up DA2.
If you like a game that is catered to people who are likely frat boys, pick up DA2.
If you like constant loading/traveling just so you can talk to a companion in his "Home" in the city, pick up DA2.
If you liked Dragon Age Origins on the PC, then Skip DA2.
If you liked the interactive tactics of Origins (i.e. an Ogre picks you up or a Spider pounces you - the only way to get out is to have a teammate run over and knock them/stun them/etc.), then Skip DA2.
If you liked Traveling to different locations, then skip DA2
If you like a storyline with a defined protagonist/antagonist with proper story structure, skip DA2
If you liked being able to talk to your companions while traveling or at camp, skip DA2
If you like a game where you are an adventuring delivery boy in a single city, pick up DA2.
If you like games where every single enemy explodes from a single tap of a weapon, then pick up DA2.
If you like a game which literally re-uses every area at least twice (including the city: Day and Night variant "zones"), then pick up DA2.
If you like a game that is catered to people who are likely frat boys, pick up DA2.
If you like constant loading/traveling just so you can talk to a companion in his "Home" in the city, pick up DA2.
#97
Posté 13 mars 2011 - 07:20
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I would say give it a chance. I enjoy it a lot and it has plenty of replay value. It has a very good story and characters.
#98
Posté 13 mars 2011 - 07:21
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If you play on the PC - skip it, or at least wait to pick the game up in the bargain bin at Target.
If you're a console player, you may enjoy the game; I'm not sure. From what I've seen, PC players are generally pretty upset, while console players tend to be more satisfied with the game.
If you're a console player, you may enjoy the game; I'm not sure. From what I've seen, PC players are generally pretty upset, while console players tend to be more satisfied with the game.
#99
Posté 13 mars 2011 - 08:04
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I don't get why some people are frothing at the mouth angry at the fact that this isn't origins 2.0
Origin's environments weren't that varied, so calm down. Plus 5 years of development =/= 2 years of development.
I've only seen one environment reused, and to say that enemies are more different in origins is a ridiculous statement. All the enemies were chaff unless they were bosses, which you get to fight plenty of times. Mages are still dangerous in DA2, Assasins are new and important enemies to get rid of, and you still have the leader/tank bosses who buff their chaff up.
Seriously, calm down. Just because this game isn't everything that you've ever dreamed of doesn't mean its a bad game. Origins isn't all that different from this game, and you guys are acting a tad bit ridiculous.
Origin's environments weren't that varied, so calm down. Plus 5 years of development =/= 2 years of development.
I've only seen one environment reused, and to say that enemies are more different in origins is a ridiculous statement. All the enemies were chaff unless they were bosses, which you get to fight plenty of times. Mages are still dangerous in DA2, Assasins are new and important enemies to get rid of, and you still have the leader/tank bosses who buff their chaff up.
Seriously, calm down. Just because this game isn't everything that you've ever dreamed of doesn't mean its a bad game. Origins isn't all that different from this game, and you guys are acting a tad bit ridiculous.
#100
Posté 13 mars 2011 - 08:12
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I'm waiting for the GotY edition - as a PC gamer it doesn't seem justified to pay top dollar for this console port.
