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[Dave of Canada]

LobselVith8 wrote...

TJPags, there are no valid comparisons with that analogy. Anders is trying to put an end to slavery, not using religion for malevolent purposes. Whether you think he was right or wrong, that was his goal.

Terrorism =/= Religion

What Anders did was terrorism.

Modifié par Dave of Canada, 14 mars 2011 - 03:59 .

[trembli0s]

LobselVith8 wrote...
What point is there in pointing out the high rate of death at the Harrowings or how multiple templars were fought in Anders quest to uncover the Tranquility Solution, how Anders' friend begged for death over continued life as a tranquil, how the Templar said he would rape the Mage as a tranquil, how no templar originally contests the order for the Rite when Meredith has no legal right to call for it without the Chantry's authority, because nothing is going to change your mind. So be it.

I can answer this one at least.

According to one of the "Band of Three" Codex pages you pick up, apparently the percentage of mages who FAIL their Harrowings or turn to Blood Magic is double that of the Circles in Ostwick, Starkhaven, and presumably the rest of Thedas (asides Tevinter most likely, no Blood Magic here right? <_<)

This also ties in, through the same Band of Three pages, that Kirkwall was the site for a MASSIVE Blood Magic ritual, where at least a thousand died every year. Figure 225 years from founding to First Blight and you have 225,000 deaths providing some world changing, if not cosmic, type of power.

That type of trauma creates massive weakenings in the barrier between the Fade and the Living world, which apparently was the intention of the Tevinter magisters. Apparently demons can be found easily in the lower levels and can converse with NORMAL humans.

That's why there's always been so many Blood Mages and psychos in Kirkwall. 

Factor in a vicious circle of more blood mages -> harsher templars -> more blood mages from fear -> even HARSHER measures and you can see why the tension between the two explodes in the game.

Modifié par trembli0s, 14 mars 2011 - 08:29 .

[Rhayth]

TheDarkRats wrote...

A dead crazy man isn't very important.

Actually thats called a martyr...sometimes...but in this case if you killed him and sided with the Templars he is the martyr that showed all mages they could stand up to the Templars/Chantry

I just say he's hypocrit...the reason being is take him on Merrill's last companion mission.  He jumps her crap for doing what she felt was best for her people by doing something they were all totally against.   I don't see much difference between what she did and what he did.

[TexasToast712]

LobselVith8 wrote...

Hawke can be a champion for mages as an apostate who has gained reputation, power, and maintained his freedom. I'd imagine Hawke and Anders would be the two most important people in Thedas for defying the Chantry and fighting the templars to save the Kirkwall Circle mages. Giving the enslaved mages the inspiration to free themselves from their oppressors is likely to give Anders a high standing among many mages who wanted their freedom, but considering Hawke is right there with him (if you side with the mages and spare him) would also mean his legend would spread among the freed Circle mages. Hawke already cultivated a reputation in Tevinter, after all, long before the attack on the Chantry.

My Hawke isnt a mage so, no. Do you always feel the need to rant about mage rights in these threads? Do you even play other classes?

[TexasToast712]

Dave of Canada wrote...

LobselVith8 wrote...

TJPags, there are no valid comparisons with that analogy. Anders is trying to put an end to slavery, not using religion for malevolent purposes. Whether you think he was right or wrong, that was his goal.

Terrorism =/= Religion

What Anders did was terrorism.

The game is set in medieval times. Terrorism was an unknown concept back then. Too many 9/11 whiners on this forum who scream Al Qaida every time they see a brown skinned bearded man driving a cab. Do we even know what he did killed them? For all we know they could have all been teleported to another realm or something. Terrorism results in murder and I didnt see any bodies. Just saying.

Even though Anders went crazy people forget he was also a devout Andrastian, not as much as Sebastian but still, he believed.

Modifié par TexasToast712, 14 mars 2011 - 08:47 .