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[Aermas]

So what "tactics" can I use in DA2? cause I can't use the ones I listed.

[AkiKishi]

Elton John is dead wrote...
No, it's easy on the difficulty I'm playing with but in one quest where I had just one companion with me, I did need tactics and I'm sure the same would go with nightmare mode. Remember Origins? Remember casual and normal difficulties when the only tactic you needed was to have enough health potions?

Nightmare comes down to more hps and more waves. The tactics of avoiding stuff till you get cooldown reset and launching the next cross class combo or stacking to wipe out the wave.

Kiting works very well on nightmare as does running away and not standing on spawn spots. I'd say you pretty much need Anders for nightmare and Aveline. I'm sure poeople have done it without them, but they sure make it easier if your Hawke is not a warrior.

Every time you use a consumable thats one less you have. The problem was less to do with the cooldowns and more to do with the number of consumables in the game.

Potions on a universal cooldown are kinda dumb.

[Brenus]

Elton John is dead wrote...

Brenus wrote...

Elton John is dead wrote...

Brenus wrote...

Statistics dont make an RPG.

DA2 is NOT an RPG.

NWN was complete **** compared to BG and Planescape Torment, but it was still 100x better than DA2.

Well the fact you call NWN rubbish pretty much says everything. Did you even enjoy Origins? Statistics do make an RPG as does the character customization which DAII offers. Now tell me, what do YOU think makes an RPG? Did you enjoy The Witcher by any chance?

I didnt call NWN rubbish, I enjoyed it and DAO.

Read the post again with your brain switched on and try to make sense of what it meant.

And you haven't answered my question. Obviously you don't know what an RPG is. How old are you Brenus?

Older than you that I actually know what an RPG is, and that DA2 isnt one.

[flushfire]

simfamSP wrote...
The top down view is over rated, made it much easier tbh.

This is true. Not being able to target AoEs exactly where you want to is part of the difficulty. Lamers just cannot accept it. Why, it isn't even realistic. How can you see from above like that? L0Lz if it were me I'd make the game first person.

[TJPags]

WTH is this tactics nonsense? I used my companions tactic slots, and hacked and slashed my way through the game. Did not pause to issue specific orders to them. Ever.

So, yea.

[Brenus]

flushfire wrote...

simfamSP wrote...
The top down view is over rated, made it much easier tbh.

This is true. Not being able to target AoEs exactly where you want to is part of the difficulty. Lamers just cannot accept it. Why, it isn't even realistic. How can you see from above like that? L0Lz if it were me I'd make the game first person.

So chess and PNP are unrealistic are they?

Well, yea,they are games. Games are meant to be fun, not real.

Modifié par Brenus, 13 mars 2011 - 06:33 .

[Eternal Phoenix]

BobSmith101 wrote...

Elton John is dead wrote...
No, it's easy on the difficulty I'm playing with but in one quest where I had just one companion with me, I did need tactics and I'm sure the same would go with nightmare mode. Remember Origins? Remember casual and normal difficulties when the only tactic you needed was to have enough health potions?

Nightmare comes down to more hps and more waves. The tactics of avoiding stuff till you get cooldown reset and launching the next cross class combo or stacking to wipe out the wave.

Kiting works very well on nightmare as does running away and not standing on spawn spots. I'd say you pretty much need Anders for nightmare and Aveline. I'm sure poeople have done it without them, but they sure make it easier if your Hawke is not a warrior.

Every time you use a consumable thats one less you have. The problem was less to do with the cooldowns and more to do with the number of consumables in the game.

Potions on a universal cooldown are kinda dumb.

Running away takes the fun away. You could do that in Origins where the enemies stopped following you and then heal automactically. Just because it's there, doesn't mean you should use it. Did you ever die on nightmare? That's because you didn't plan correctly before that fight. You run away from enemies, I disable them with abilities. I guess gameplay is different for each of us.

Modifié par Elton John is dead, 13 mars 2011 - 06:33 .

[The_mango55]

GregoriusMaximus wrote...

Elton John is dead wrote...

People are saying DA2 is just hack and slash, I have no idea what game they're playing then (probably The Witcher) because tactics do come into play in DA2. If they do indeed own DA2, they probably play on casual. They should try the higher difficulties before saying that no tactics are needed because I certainly remember using tactics to win many fights and using certain abilities to disable enemies.

*WHOOSH* right over your head!

Some people play cRPGs for more than the fighting bits. That's what they say when they say it's hack-and-slash and over-simplified.

Also, the mobs are dull and repetitive and there's no proper healing role or aspect even with Anders.

It's not nearly as focused on fighting as Icewind Dale.

[Eternal Phoenix]

Brenus wrote...

Elton John is dead wrote...

Brenus wrote...

Elton John is dead wrote...

Brenus wrote...

Statistics dont make an RPG.

DA2 is NOT an RPG.

NWN was complete **** compared to BG and Planescape Torment, but it was still 100x better than DA2.

Well the fact you call NWN rubbish pretty much says everything. Did you even enjoy Origins? Statistics do make an RPG as does the character customization which DAII offers. Now tell me, what do YOU think makes an RPG? Did you enjoy The Witcher by any chance?

I didnt call NWN rubbish, I enjoyed it and DAO.

Read the post again with your brain switched on and try to make sense of what it meant.

And you haven't answered my question. Obviously you don't know what an RPG is. How old are you Brenus?

Older than you that I actually know what an RPG is, and that DA2 isnt one.

What is an RPG then? You still haven't said. If you are older than me (you don't even know my age so your logic fails) then start acting like it.

[yhishtchie]

What "people" are saying this. Everyone except you? Give some examples.

[Heimdall]

Brenus wrote...

Older than you that I actually know what an RPG is, and that DA2 isnt one.

You really believe there is a universal definition of RPG that most people accept?

There are certainly a number of elements that most people would agree are RPG elements but they vary on which of those elements are absolutely vital to an RPG.  To some, those elements are included in those removed from DAII.  For others, like me, they were not.

[Cuthlan]

Elton John is dead wrote...

People are saying DA2 is just hack and slash, I have no idea what game they're playing then (probably The Witcher) because tactics do come into play in DA2. If they do indeed own DA2, they probably play on casual. They should try the higher difficulties before saying that no tactics are needed because I certainly remember using tactics to win many fights and using certain abilities to disable enemies.

That is your answer right there. A decent portion of them are not playing the game at all. Some played the demo, some didn't. They're dogpiling the game because of things they've heard.

[Aermas]

Hey OP, can you answer my question???

[Brenus]

Elton John is dead wrote...

Brenus wrote...

Elton John is dead wrote...

Brenus wrote...

Elton John is dead wrote...

Brenus wrote...

Statistics dont make an RPG.

DA2 is NOT an RPG.

NWN was complete **** compared to BG and Planescape Torment, but it was still 100x better than DA2.

Well the fact you call NWN rubbish pretty much says everything. Did you even enjoy Origins? Statistics do make an RPG as does the character customization which DAII offers. Now tell me, what do YOU think makes an RPG? Did you enjoy The Witcher by any chance?

I didnt call NWN rubbish, I enjoyed it and DAO.

Read the post again with your brain switched on and try to make sense of what it meant.

And you haven't answered my question. Obviously you don't know what an RPG is. How old are you Brenus?

Older than you that I actually know what an RPG is, and that DA2 isnt one.

What is an RPG then? You still haven't said. If you are older than me (you don't even know my age so your logic fails) then start acting like it.

Baldurs Gate 1 + 2, The Elder Scrolls series, and the Ultima series are a few examples of RPGs.

DA2 is not anything the same.

Role-playing video games use much of the same terminology, settings and game mechanics as early pen-and-paper role-playing games such as Dungeons & Dragons.[2] Generally, the player controls a small number of game characters, usually called a party, and achieves victory by completing a series of quests and reaching the conclusion of a central storyline. Players explore a game world, while solving puzzles and engaging in tactical combat. 

Modifié par Brenus, 13 mars 2011 - 06:39 .

[Goldrock]

well console version just feels more like action cause you actually gotta push the button for everyattack unlike pc version you got auto attack. but yeah there tons of tactics i think more so than da1 in some aspects because some fights you actually gotta keep moving.

[Cuthlan]

Brenus wrote...

Elton John is dead wrote...

Brenus wrote...

Elton John is dead wrote...

Brenus wrote...

Statistics dont make an RPG.

DA2 is NOT an RPG.

NWN was complete **** compared to BG and Planescape Torment, but it was still 100x better than DA2.

Well the fact you call NWN rubbish pretty much says everything. Did you even enjoy Origins? Statistics do make an RPG as does the character customization which DAII offers. Now tell me, what do YOU think makes an RPG? Did you enjoy The Witcher by any chance?

I didnt call NWN rubbish, I enjoyed it and DAO.

Read the post again with your brain switched on and try to make sense of what it meant.

And you haven't answered my question. Obviously you don't know what an RPG is. How old are you Brenus?

Older than you that I actually know what an RPG is, and that DA2 isnt one.

RPG is defined as a game in which you play the role of someone else. Everything else is subjective opinion on what it means.

And at release NWN was rubbish, compared to other Bioware games (including DA2.). The toolset, community, and expansions made the game great.

[Goldrock]

roleplaying game what makes a game an rpg good story good character growth.and if people actually play through games starts getting pretty climatic as you go im loving it so far of course i am a bioware fan boy ive loved all their games so far.

Modifié par Goldrock, 13 mars 2011 - 06:42 .

[Emerald Melios]

Brenus wrote...

Baldurs Gate 1 + 2, The Elder Scrolls series, and the Ultima series are a few examples of RPGs.

DA2 is not anything the same.

How so? And what about Final Fantasy and other JRPGs? Are they "not RPGs"  like DA2?

[Aermas]

CAN ANYONE GIVE EXAMPLES OF TACTICS?

[Brenus]

Cuthlan wrote...

Brenus wrote...

Elton John is dead wrote...

Brenus wrote...

Elton John is dead wrote...

Brenus wrote...

Statistics dont make an RPG.

DA2 is NOT an RPG.

NWN was complete **** compared to BG and Planescape Torment, but it was still 100x better than DA2.

Well the fact you call NWN rubbish pretty much says everything. Did you even enjoy Origins? Statistics do make an RPG as does the character customization which DAII offers. Now tell me, what do YOU think makes an RPG? Did you enjoy The Witcher by any chance?

I didnt call NWN rubbish, I enjoyed it and DAO.

Read the post again with your brain switched on and try to make sense of what it meant.

And you haven't answered my question. Obviously you don't know what an RPG is. How old are you Brenus?

Older than you that I actually know what an RPG is, and that DA2 isnt one.

RPG is defined as a game in which you play the role of someone else. Everything else is subjective opinion on what it means.

And at release NWN was rubbish, compared to other Bioware games (including DA2.). The toolset, community, and expansions made the game great.

So Crysis is an RPG?

[Flunkorg]

I play vindictus regularly and thats a REAL hack'n'slash. This game isn't even close hahaha

[flushfire]

Elton John is dead wrote...
Well the fact you call NWN rubbish pretty much says everything. Did you even enjoy Origins? Statistics do make an RPG as does the character customization which DAII offers. Now tell me, what do YOU think makes an RPG? Did you enjoy The Witcher by any chance? You've just joined and have no games registered...have you even played Origins? lol

This is true, The Witcher is not a cRPG like people claim because you cannot rename Geralt. You cannot even choose a class! You are always just a witcher L0Lz where is the role in that? And what is with this choices and consequences bull***? That is not what a RPG is about L0L0L elitists talk like they actually know what it is.

That is why Betrayal at Krondor, critically acclaimed until today and usually included in top cRPG lists of all time, is actually not a RPG! They are just old-timers that do not realize they are limited by the technology at the time.

Modifié par flushfire, 13 mars 2011 - 06:43 .

[Brenus]

Aermas wrote...

CAN ANYONE GIVE EXAMPLES OF TACTICS?

Playing as a mage in Baldur's Gate.

[Goldrock]

tactics try playin nightmare or harder mode you cant just run through and hack your way through the game you actually gotta switch back and forth between character similar too da:o's

[Brenus]

You dont need to choose your own player for it to an RPG, unless you think that Gothic 1 - 3 arent RPGs as well.

Seriously get a clue.

Your character class in such games as Witcher, Elder Scrolls, and Gothic games develops as you play.

Heck, by that definition, Ultima isnt an RPG because you pnly play the Avatar lol.

Modifié par Brenus, 13 mars 2011 - 06:46 .