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[Baelyn]

Filament wrote...

What could be interesting would be DA3 bringing back Origins:

Warden Origin.
Hawke Origin.

Ooooo!

I approve of this 100%.

This could be very interesting.

[Haron50]

Ace of Hart wrote...

Although it must be said that your character sacrificing him/her self for Ferelden is cool, if you have another character that didn't.

yes,depending of  the decisions but In case you warden die,you use the warden orlesian of awakening.

but the people order the return of gray warden.

[Haron50]

Baelyn wrote...

Filament wrote...

What could be interesting would be DA3 bringing back Origins:

Warden Origin.
Hawke Origin.

Ooooo!

I approve of this 100%.

This could be very interesting.

yesss epic.

[Ace of Hart]

See i thought about that, it wouldn't work it would need to be to separate games because they are to different, nuf said

[Ace of Hart]

in regar to that comment about playing as Hawke and the warden in one game

[AngelicMachinery]

I don't understand what's so cool about Grey Wardens...

[Ace of Hart]

What? they are Epic!

[Ace of Hart]

Epic i tell you.

[Ace of Hart]

Epic!!!

[AngelicMachinery]

Ace of Hart wrote...

What? they are Epic!

No more epic than any either group of knights,  personally I think the Chevalier and the Templar sound just as awesome as the Grey Warden's to me.  They just don't have the ability to sense and resist Darkspawn... and Darkspawn aren't what Dragon Age is all about.

[Ace of Hart]

Epic!!!!!!

[Ace of Hart]

Epic!!!!!!

[Caja]

Vicious wrote...

Uh, no.

Scenario:

Warden in DA3.

Cue whinefest of 'why am I not with my love interest' or where is xx character? or why am I depowered to level 1 again?

etc etc ad nauseam

It's not gonna happen. Plus Bioware really loves bringing in new companions every game. Look at Mass Effect, for example.

New Game, new hero. You folks had best accept it now.

- If this is going to happen or not you don't know . Neither do I.
- So, bring the love interest in as well --> no whining. In "BG 2: Shadows of Amn" for example you could not only continue to play your old character, you had some of the old companions in your party as well. So, it's doable and you don't have to start at level one either. And since this was a BioWare game as well they obviously like to give the players continuity. So "new game, new hero" is not set in stone.

AngelicMachinery wrote...

I don't understand what's so cool about Grey Wardens...

It's really a matter of preference, so it's probably hard to explain the coolness because everybody feels differently for his or her main character. But I will try to explain why I find my Warden so compelling (Spoilers for Origin): 

I had a very clear picture of her in my mind, when I created my Warden in Origins. Therefore, a lot of my imagination went into that character, which made her unique.
I thought about how the templars took her away from her parents when she was a kid.
I thought about how she stood in front of the heavy wooden doors at the entrance of the circle tower that would never open.
How much she regret that Cullen would run away if she tried to flirt with him. 
How she felt about blood magic and the betrayal of one of her friends that led her to become a Grey Warden.
The sense of freedom when she first arrived at Ostagar.
Her first encounter with Alistair and his strange jokes that she actually liked - hard to believe, but true. The kind of nightmares she was having after becoming a Warden.

I could go on like this for quite a while. So, I've been with her, traveled with her from the south of the country to the very north and saw her develop. I thought about her personality, that she was a young person with little life experience and great curiosity about the world.  I remember her revulsion about certain things and the complete and utter shock when Alistair tried to dump her. I felt for my Warden.

I don't feel so much for Hawke. That doesn't mean that I don't like Hawke, but the connection was never the same. Why? I cannot say. I *think* because Hawke is a more established character than the Warden is. Or maybe it's because of the voice acting, I honestly don't know. 

That said I think there are many questions left opened that concern the Warden. Since this is a no spoiler forum I don't want to go into details, but I'm dying to know how certain things turned out. In addition, I want to learn about them from my Warden's perspective because I want to know how her life has been since I reached Kirkwall with Hawke. 

I hope I could throw light on this. And I'm sorry if my English isn't so good. It's not my first language.   

Modifié par Caja, 27 mars 2011 - 12:59 .

[Systera]

I'd also prefer playing with my old warden again. Hawke was a mousy character, criminal and average in every way. Playing as a warden with such a huge burden on your shoulders, made the world authentic. You had the constant feeling of being special. DA 2 never gave me that feeling.

Modifié par Systera, 27 mars 2011 - 01:03 .

[JabbaDaHutt30]

XX55XX wrote...

DSerpa wrote...

Just because you offed your Warden doesn't mean they cannot return. It's fiction. If the writers want to bring back the Warden they can do it without a retcon. Here's an idea off the top of my head:

The Grey Warden who kills the Archdemon does not die. Their spirit leaves their body and fights the Archdemon's spirit in the Fade in order to prevent it from possessing another darkspawn body, sort of like Oma Desala vs. Anubis. Some **** goes wrong and the Warden gets pulled through the Fade into another body, freeing up the Archdemon's spirit to act in a similar role to the OGB.

Problem solved.

Ugh. Deus ex machinimas. Even worse than an actual retcon.

worst idea i've ever heard. a hallmark to terrible writing.

[JabbaDaHutt30]

bsbcaer wrote...

XX55XX wrote...

I didn't care much about Hawke. He/She wasn't really a hero, but more of an opportunist who just had decisions and opportunities thrown upon his/her lap. Hawke's "rise to power" has been punctuated by moments of sheer luck and little else.

What we need, is for our Warden to come back as the primary protagonist. I don't care if BioWare elects to bring back voice acting or not with this Warden. I don't care if all of our savegames are retconned. The Warden is a far more compelling person than Hawke - yeah, yeah, Hawke started a mage rebellion, but the Warden freaking saved Thedas from the march of the darkspawn.

They also should bring back the old style of narrative - namely, saving the world from a grave threat. I think the qunari would be play an excellent role in being that enemy.

It will be a controversial move, but Dragon Age 2 felt more like a spinoff game than an actual sequel.

Oh please, for the love of God no...I liked my warden, I enjoyed playing as my warden, but I'd rather not see him (or her) in another game...

This also assumes that an import is a necessity.  What about those who are switching systems (played DA:O on a console and switches to PC for example) or who have lost their DA:O saved files (lost their computerin the intervening time between DA:O and DA3)?  That doesn't even touch the issue about those who had their warden survive and those who did not. 

How would you deal with the issue of characters starting at (probably) at least level 20?  would you have all the enemies mysteriously get that much more powerful than DA:O (gee, how come I could destroy a giant spider just by looking at it with my original warden, but now it takes longer to kill the same giant spider in DA3?) or would you have the warden mysteriously lose his/her powers from DA:O?

you people do realize that 'levels' are just part of gameplay mechanics, right?

[MrWakka]

 As i posted in a similar thread, I don't want to see him again.

I left him in a fairly good position as king at the end of DA:O, but since BioWare has made him disappear, and desires to make the plot lines more linear with a named hero, it is unlikely the warden will be my warden by the time he shows up. 

[LTD]

Warden back? Surely it takes a black heart to wish some sort of necromancy-related foulness upon the Hero of Ferelden who gave his life so YOU could live!:l Let him rest in peace!

Also, stop worrying of DA III when we still don't have a confirmation of DA II being released.
There are only  two terminator movies, three star wars movies, one matrix movie and so far only one Dragon Age game.

Modifié par LTD, 27 mars 2011 - 01:56 .

[The Xand]

XX55XX wrote...

I didn't care much about Hawke. He/She wasn't really a hero, but more of an opportunist who just had decisions and opportunities thrown upon his/her lap. Hawke's "rise to power" has been punctuated by moments of sheer luck and little else.

What we need, is for our Warden to come back as the primary protagonist. I don't care if BioWare elects to bring back voice acting or not with this Warden. I don't care if all of our savegames are retconned. The Warden is a far more compelling person than Hawke - yeah, yeah, Hawke started a mage rebellion, but the Warden freaking saved Thedas from the march of the darkspawn.

They also should bring back the old style of narrative - namely, saving the world from a grave threat. I think the qunari would be play an excellent role in being that enemy.

Oh yes won't that be a creative step to take.

Bioware developer "I have an idea! Let's have a nameless Grey Warden defeat an evil horde."

Another Bioware developer "But...didn't we already do that?"

First Bioware director "Yeah but let's do it again because the fans are anal about change."

LTD wrote...

Warden back? Surely it takes a black heart to
wish some sort of necromancy-related foulness upon the Hero of Ferelden
who gave his life so YOU could live!:l Let him rest in peace!

Also, stop worrying of DA III when we still don't have a confirmation of DA II being released.
There are only  two terminator movies, three star wars movies, one matrix movie and so far only one Dragon Age game.

Pfft, my hero banged Morrigan and knocked her up with a little dragon baby and walked away Scot free.

Modifié par The Xand, 27 mars 2011 - 01:59 .

[LTD]

[quote]The Xand wrote...



[quote]LTD wrote...

Warden back? Surely it takes a black heart to
wish some sort of necromancy-related foulness upon the Hero of Ferelden
who gave his life so YOU could live!:l Let him rest in peace!

Also, stop worrying of DA III when we still don't have a confirmation of DA II being released.
There are only  two terminator movies, three star wars movies, one matrix movie and so far only one Dragon Age game.


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Pfft, my hero banged Morrigan and knocked her up with a little dragon baby and walked away Scot free.

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Fornication out of wedlock and demon babies!:l >Surely the Man you speak of is no hero:(

Modifié par LTD, 27 mars 2011 - 02:07 .

[The Xand]

LTD wrote...


Fornication out of wedlock and demon babies!:l >Surely the Man you speak of is no hero:(

Someone had to do it and Teyrn Loghain had already gone tatties o'er the side :'(

Modifié par The Xand, 27 mars 2011 - 02:13 .

[Sarethus]

Agree with the OP, I want my Warden back.

[Whist Darkblade]

Vicious wrote...

Uh, no.

Scenario:

Warden in DA3.

Cue whinefest of 'why am I not with my love interest' or where is xx character? or why am I depowered to level 1 again?

etc etc ad nauseam

It's not gonna happen. Plus Bioware really loves bringing in new companions every game. Look at Mass Effect, for example.

New Game, new hero. You folks had best accept it now.

What are you talking about? 


Have you played Mass Effect? Mass Effect you play as the same main character Shepard, in both games, and ill wager my Mabari that you will play as Shepard in ME3. Thats what we are talking about, of course there are going to be new companions, who cares about that.

The people who want the warden back, want to play as the warden. The hero of Ferelden is very critical to the plot of DA3, not to mention that he/she kicks ass. For those who died at the end of DAO, you all know you can still survive if you dont do the dark ritual? there is more than one way to survive.

But alas, Bioware will most likely introduce a new main character, how ever much we dislike the idea.

Modifié par Whist Darkblade, 27 mars 2011 - 02:47 .

[Ace of Hart]

Agree